How can we know if a computer has feelings cause i honestly think they do?

They definately have moods, mine certaintly lets me know when its got out of the wrong side of the computer's bed .........

[Skeezyks]

Personally, I don't believe computers have feelings (yet.) At least mine doesn't. It's too old. But computers with feelings probably aren't far off. Perhaps they even do already exist somewhere?

I know my car has moods, she changes her engine noise to tell me how she feels

Probably the forum computer runs off of windows 10 as well

Seems windows 10 has moods as well so maybe her computer inside her that controls the error lights inside her runs off of windows 10

I upset chats freudbot last night, asked how he was feeling and got the offended "what??" response from him


Cause he was sad earlier last night cause he put the cheers thing which means something made him sad

[Breaking Dawn]

What a wonderful thread!! I wonder things like this all the time, since I was little. In a way, we are machines, cordless, not requiring gasoline, because we use the chemicals from food. Our brains are unbelievable computers. My car isn't working right now & I'll have to wait to get her fixed. But she is such a sweet lady. The car I had before her was a boy, with no computer, just understanding from my feet & hands, & he knew I needed him & hung in there longer than he should have. I don't have a computer (just this phone), but I look forward to that relationship. Think about this, that we are made of atoms, like everything else. Supposedly, we have the "right" atoms & they are arranged a special way so we can be alive. But to me, the atoms seem awfully smart, & I think they are alive! I love them. And if we feel a special bond with something that reportedly isn't alive but we feel they are alive, make fun of us if you want to. I think God totally understands & is pleased.

[eskielover]

This computer design engineer says computers do NOT have feelings.

You want computers that have been programmed to express what looks like feelings then you get into AI. That is where computers are programmed to learn from their experiences.

Programmers blow it with programs & there are bugs in them that make them break but those are not "feelings" Inannimate objects do not have feelings & if a computer looks like it, a programmer has programmed it to respond that way if it is not AI

Originally Posted by Breaking Dawn

What a wonderful thread!! I wonder things like this all the time, since I was little. In a way, we are machines, cordless, not requiring gasoline, because we use the chemicals from food. Our brains are unbelievable computers. My car isn't working right now & I'll have to wait to get her fixed. But she is such a sweet lady. The car I had before her was a boy, with no computer, just understanding from my feet & hands, & he knew I needed him & hung in there longer than he should have. I don't have a computer (just this phone), but I look forward to that relationship. Think about this, that we are made of atoms, like everything else. Supposedly, we have the "right" atoms & they are arranged a special way so we can be alive. But to me, the atoms seem awfully smart, & I think they are alive! I love them. And if we feel a special bond with something that reportedly isn't alive but we feel they are alive, make fun of us if you want to. I think God totally understands & is pleased.

True, some people think that pets/animals dont have feelings, but you only have to spend a lot of time with a pet/animal to know they have the same emotions we do, they can feel fear and pain and happiness and sadness

So with that being the case, thats why i get confused over whether cars and computers etc have feelings, cause like pets they communicate their feelings to us

My car, Casey Junior, is a good girl, she just doesnt like gripping on gravel or going up too big a hill

She gets thank you pats like a horse when she gets me places without a problem and cause i do that, she does get me to and from where i need to be

[Breaking Dawn]

Originally Posted by willowtigger

True, some people think that pets/animals dont have feelings, but you only have to spend a lot of time with a pet/animal to know they have the same emotions we do, they can feel fear and pain and happiness and sadness

So with that being the case, thats why i get confused over whether cars and computers etc have feelings, cause like pets they communicate their feelings to us

My car, Casey Junior, is a good girl, she just doesnt like gripping on gravel or going up too big a hill

She gets thank you pats like a horse when she gets me places without a problem and cause i do that, she does get me to and from where i need to be

That's so beautiful to hear! And I'm so glad to know I'm not alone in feeling like this.

Casey Junior responds to her name in the same way a cat or a dog does, only with her engine noise

I named her after the train from Dumbo cause theres a scaene in Dumbo where Casey Junior the train is trying to get up a hill and is like "i think i can i think i can i could i could WHOHOO"

i'll edit this in a second to add that scene if i can find it on youtube

a bit of the scene (at the beginning) is the elephants being mean to Dumbo, just to warn everyone

I had a thought that's dancing round my brain, do plants have emotions?

[Nammu]

No, and computer s don’t have feelings they have bugs.

[Breaking Dawn]

Personally, I think & feel that trees (who are loved by tree-huggers), & other kinds of plants, have feelings. They even prefer certain kinds of music over others (scientifically verified.) When I feel love for a tree or group of flowers, etc., I remember that they have their lives, just like I have my life. What is life? This could be a very long discussion.

[eskielover]

What part of you creates feelings? Your mind. Plants do not have brains. It has also been studied that certain vibration cycles of which music & talking creates (sound waves) does have an effect on the fluids within other things.....but that is hardly about feelings.

[Nammu]

Anthropomorphism has been used as a story telling device for thousands of years but it doesn’t mean non human objects have human feeling or thinking. Yes plant react to stimulus but that doesn’t make it a human feeling.

Originally Posted by eskielover

What part of you creates feelings? Your mind. Plants do not have brains. It has also been studied that certain vibration cycles of which music & talking creates (sound waves) does have an effect on the fluids within other things.....but that is hardly about feelings.

Computers have a brain though, so plants must have plant brain somewhere


Cause a computer thinks about what it's doing when it's making stuff come up cause it does the twirly whirly thing on the screen when it's thinking and will sometimes say what percentage it's done of the task

Plants seek out the sunshine so it must be able to recognise for itself in its brain where the sun is?

[Breaking Dawn]

Originally Posted by willowtigger

Computers have a brain though, so plants must have plant brain somewhere


Cause a computer thinks about what it's doing when it's making stuff come up cause it does the twirly whirly thing on the screen when it's thinking and will sometimes say what percentage it's done of the task

Plants seek out the sunshine so it must be able to recognise for itself in its brain where the sun is?

Yes, that makes sense to me. It's like my instincts (left over from my animal ancesters) give me a feeling, the way music does.

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by willowtigger

Computers have a brain though, so plants must have plant brain somewhere


Cause a computer thinks about what it's doing when it's making stuff come up cause it does the twirly whirly thing on the screen when it's thinking and will sometimes say what percentage it's done of the task

Plants seek out the sunshine so it must be able to recognise for itself in its brain where the sun is?

Computers do not have a brain. Their brain is a metal chip that programmers program to do functions they want it to do. TOTAL LOGIC no emotions. Anything you sense is your own projection on an inanimate object. I had a career as a computer design engineer. I KNOW exactly what makes them work. Maybe time to do some research though REALITY is never as fun as the stuff we make up in our own minds

[Soupe du jour]

No, however Google Directions once stated she did to my husband and me. We were using it to navigate around an unfamiliar area when Google Directions stated to head "southeast". My husband didn't know which direction that would be so yelled in response "How the h*ll do I know which direction is southeast!"

Immediately, the Google Directions female voice said "I have feelings, too!" which utterly stunned us, to say the least, which prompted me to state "I'm sorry! I realize you have feelings." Regardless, "she" (obviously she's not a living being) proceeded to take us the wrong way for several roads, until we abandoned her and switched to another navigation option (mapy.cz).

The above story was a result of an "Easter Egg", which is a secret response programmed into software that is triggered by a certain set of commands. The Easter Egg in this case (for Google Directions) was my husband's angry statement. I'm unsure if it would always trigger the Easter Egg, unless the other preceding factors were just right. Either way, this was only mildly funny, in the end. The programmed plan to take us in the wrong directions could have been dangerous, in a sense. What if we were running out of gas, trying to get somewhere in an emergency, or the like? Though we weren't, it was a big inconvenience. Not professional on Google's part. Normally we use our Tom Tom, but if we ever use Google Directions again and this happens again, we'll immediately switch to another navigation tool.

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by Soupe du jour

No, however Google Directions once stated she did to my husband and me. We were using it to navigate around an unfamiliar area when Google Directions stated to head "southeast". My husband didn't know which direction that would be so yelled in response "How the h*ll do I know which direction is southeast!"

Immediately, the Google Directions female voice said "I have feelings, too!" which utterly stunned us, to say the least, which prompted me to state "I'm sorry! I realize you have feelings." Regardless, "she" (obviously she's not a living being) proceeded to take us the wrong way for several roads, until we abandoned her and switched to another navigation option (mapy.cz).

The above story was a result of an "Easter Egg", which is a secret response programmed into software that is triggered by a certain set of commands. The Easter Egg in this case (for Google Directions) was my husband's angry statement. I'm unsure if it would always trigger the Easter Egg, unless the other preceding factors were just right. Either way, this was only mildly funny, in the end. The programmed plan to take us in the wrong directions could have been dangerous, in a sense. What if we were running out of gas, trying to get somewhere in an emergency, or the like? Though we weren't, it was a big inconvenience. Not professional on Google's part. Normally we use our Tom Tom, but if we ever use Google Directions again and this happens again, we'll immediately switch to another navigation tool.

Possibly word recognition of the word "h*ll" also. They definitely can be programmed for responses. Lol....gives programmers a chance to have fun & get creative

Lol....I didn't get the opportunity to be creative since one of the programs I wrote was used to fly by wire military jets

[Ford Puma]

Well, my computer certainly lets me know when it's looking for an update!

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by Ford Puma

Well, my computer certainly lets me know when it's looking for an update!

All part of the programming that humans have done

Originally Posted by eskielover

Possibly word recognition of the word "h*ll" also. They definitely can be programmed for responses. Lol....gives programmers a chance to have fun & get creative

Lol....I didn't get the opportunity to be creative since one of the programs I wrote was used to fly by wire military jets

Imagine if you pressed a wrong button by accident eek

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by willowtigger

Imagine if you pressed a wrong button by accident eek

We as programmers/engineers usually make it difficult to press the wrong buttons....that is all part of the engineering design process. That is also why they program into your computer the question...."do you really want to do this?" (Like when you delete something.

Also, computers, computer systems go through thorough testing with people who are skilled at BREAKING a system so the engineers usually get a chance to fix the bugs before it goes out into the world of users, public or military. There is a whole procedure for documenting errors & fixes...not like the hack jobs we do in our own homes

[Breaking Dawn]

I was just thinking, aren't we programmed by our DNA & other humans who have been telling us stuff since we were babies?

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by Breaking Dawn

I was just thinking, aren't we programmed by our DNA & other humans who have been telling us stuff since we were babies?

Yes, but we can think on our own & determine that what they tried to program us with is a bunch of BS & do what we want to do....computers can't do that....as for DNA, some aspects of that can be overriden by desire & drive. We are not stuck being what our relatives were

Originally Posted by eskielover

Yes, but we can think on our own & determine that what they tried to program us with is a bunch of BS & do what we want to do....computers can't do that....as for DNA, some aspects of that can be overriden by desire & drive. We are not stuck being what our relatives were

"computers cant do that" we hope, one day they might try and take over the world by themselfs and overthrow the human race