women only site?

any of you guys ever think that this should be a women only site? with the thinly veiled intense seething hatred some of these femme fatales have for men as a whole and the unfettered expressions of contempt, as well as the dubious outspoken assertions of knowledge about all males based no doubt on conversations around the trailer park courtyard ,all of which apparantly are condoned, have you ever felt that this may not be the best place for men with psychological problems particulary lack of self esteem to come?

I dunno. I think it has a lot to do with there not being a lot of men who post to begin with.

Yeah, I know which post you are mentioning as well. It has to be hard for people though to feel mistreated by their significant other, so I can understand her feelings.

Of course, as we mentioned, not all men are pigs...but if we go out and act as idiots against women, what message does that show (or prove) to them about us? That we are pigs?

Personally, I would like the mens forum to grow, but as I have mentioned before, its hard to grow when theres usually not a post in here on average a day...

To me, also, its not a women or men thing, its a Clyde thing. I dont want others to think I am a pig, obnoxious or something of the like, so I figure if I keep my side of the street clean, thats the best I can do and ask for...

i can relate to her feeling mistreated or not appreciated by her significant other or even other men in her life but to extrapolate what is happening to you to the overwhelming majority of men worldwide is rediculous and i believe that it creates a hostile, degrading environment here for men who may be thinking of participating. There are plenty of spoiled, selfish , self centered women out there as you well know if you live in the real world, but i wouldnt say that most are. It is obvious that it is ok here for women to say anything that they want to about men as a group and any generalization of us is acceptable. Again i dont think that it is a healthy atmosphere for young men especially who come here looking for information or support. What they get is yeah you are a man so you are stupid, lazy, untrainable, evil etc.

i think you both are making good points... i live in a town so pc, so feminized, at times i had to search to find my cave man because "they" would hang him high if anyone knew where he was... but with some stroke of luck there remains a shred and i'm hangin' on to him... sorry if i'm wrong, but i am male... and why the heck should i apologize?

i was remembering something earlier that i thnk i can apply now... one of my weakness/strengths is to people please... if i go to a bar to play the jukebox i take into account what other customers are there... try to play a song that everyone can dig... now if you have a mix of men, women, bikers, cowbays, grampas and gramma and babies... do you know how hard that is? well, i try anyway.. cause they came for a good time too... and part of me having a good time is if they have a good time...

likewise i'm considerate of what topics i discuss and the nlanguage i use, cause even if i'm only talking to one person, others can hear me and sure enough, soon as i say the f-word, theres gramma right behind me... now some are cool and don't get offended but i wonder, in the back of their mind, i've just made an impression, been an example... what example do i want to set???? what do i want this woman or this man to have of me? what do i want him/her to tell their kids that i'm all about...

don't forget... pc is all over in my town... i deal with it all the time... it gets so nutty i could scream... but then, i'd be setting an example of someone who just lost their last wit... nowheretorun...

It is what it is joe....i've been frustrated many times trying to prove all men are not the same, etc.,.
some get it and some don't.
It doesn't bother me, cos I don't expect to get any real help here...ultimately you have to help yourself.

Thats the biggest thing, I mean, heck, I could talk to someone till I am blue in the face, or some lady could talk to her friend till shes blue in the face, but we can change no ones opinions, just keep being decent men (the way you are) and that is what really matters...