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Old Oct 11, 2015, 03:00 PM
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I'm here for you. Heheheheh!
I know you are but this is normal as all are really here for me. Come on we already new this.... Silly rabbit tricks are for kids ha ha ha!!! On to you being evil, if evil is what you are than I really do enjoy evil!!! To have this from me counts as something larger than what is typically looked for. So wink wink and all that gooey stuff!!!!
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 02:43 AM
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I don't need any form of empathy/sympathy nor do I want it.
LOL, I don't care. You're getting empathy from me whether you like it or not. It's all about me feeling empathy for you, not whether you want it or not, capisce?

And the term "monster" puts a smile on my face. People choose to love other "normal" people, they fear monsters, whether they like it or not.

I was never good enough to be loved, I was never given the benefit of the doubt whether I should be loved or not, it was always just a resounding "no".

I don't think it says anything about me when other people cannot find it in themselves to love someone, who was nothing more than a scared and shy little boy (at the time). I wasn't a monster back then, I was a relatively happy kid, but they just couldn't, could they? Just because I wasn't like the other kids. Well, now I'm a monster thanks to that, all that unprovoked hate directed towards me has created this "problem" who know stands before them.

For them, my only sentiments are: "Having to lie in the bed you made, etc..."

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Old Oct 12, 2015, 02:54 AM
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I agree though that I find it insulting when people state that they empathize with me or feel sorry for me for what I am or my general behaviors.
As I said before...whether you like it or not, you're getting it from me, because unlike these idiots you mention:

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It is my experience that most people who state these things really don't care or if they do, they see you as being less than human because of your "disorder".
I actually have the mental capacity to understand such things seeing as I only went through quite a bit of it myself as a kid.

I find it insulting when people comb me with the same comb they comb the rest with. Don't think I think like others think. I am, and will never be like everybody else you've met. Don't ever again compare me with the morons you've met in your life before me.

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Old Oct 12, 2015, 04:44 AM
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When is it present and when is it not present?

I just can't feel empathy, like it's just not the way I'm wired. I have a level of "cognitive empathy" in that I can understand why somebody would be feeling X because of X but I don't "feel" that connection at all.

Being a "monster" isn't all that bad, lol. I don't mind comments like that made towards me as I know the person or people involved are simply ignorant of me and people are naturally going to label someone/thing as "negative" in some way just because they cannot or will not understand it.
I personally have a very inhibited capacity for empathy if the definition of it is "emotional". I have high levels of cognitive empathy. My emotional empathy is extended to people who I share characteristics with. If I know someone who has had a history of suicidality, or emotional difficulties, etc. I can empathize with them. But it's on/off. IMO, psychiatry overblows this whole "it's normal to be empathic" ********. It's so gray. In their eyes, 90% of people are "normal" and 10% are "abnormal". But there is no such thing as normal. There's a normal act, and what that act consists of changes over time and geography. That's it. Philosophers have battled about whether an individual can truly feel and see the subjective experience of another. IMO, no. You can project, you can guess, you may be right here and there, but wrong most of the time. If we could read others emotions we'd have no need to get to know them and would trust them or distrust them by default. It's silly how empathy as a construct is used to categorize people into haves and have nots. The world isn't that simple.
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 09:01 AM
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She told me that Narcissists actually feel really insecure and hide that insecurity by "putting up a front"
Your therapist has got it all WRONG. She aint got a clue.
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 10:33 AM
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She told me that Narcissists actually feel really insecure and hide that insecurity by "putting up a front"
Your therapist has got it all WRONG. She aint got a clue.
How is that theory, in your opinion, wrong? I'm curious.
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 10:38 AM
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How is that theory, in your opinion, wrong? I'm curious.
Uh oh problems brewing!!!! Why can't we all just get along???
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 10:39 AM
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I personally have a very inhibited capacity for empathy if the definition of it is "emotional". I have high levels of cognitive empathy. My emotional empathy is extended to people who I share characteristics with. If I know someone who has had a history of suicidality, or emotional difficulties, etc. I can empathize with them. But it's on/off. IMO, psychiatry overblows this whole "it's normal to be empathic" ********. It's so gray. In their eyes, 90% of people are "normal" and 10% are "abnormal". But there is no such thing as normal. There's a normal act, and what that act consists of changes over time and geography. That's it. Philosophers have battled about whether an individual can truly feel and see the subjective experience of another. IMO, no. You can project, you can guess, you may be right here and there, but wrong most of the time. If we could read others emotions we'd have no need to get to know them and would trust them or distrust them by default. It's silly how empathy as a construct is used to categorize people into haves and have nots. The world isn't that simple.
I hate that whole "it's normal to be an empathetic ray of light" nonsense line of thinking. Human beings aren't black and white. I am more extreme in that I've never "felt" empathy, but on the other hand I do have a solid sense of cognitive empathy. If I didn't have that, I obviously wouldn't have any friends at all now would I?

I don't have that emotional capacity for empathy that you do, it's interesting and refreshing to hear that someone that does have that capacity can admit to "turning it off and on". Even people that are highly empathetic, there are always going to be times where they aren't empathetic either. For example, it's usually people that are quite "empathetic" in the typical definition of that word that are sitting around writing off people like me as "evil"... That's not very "empathetic" of them, lol.

Agreed there's no such thing as normal. It's all relative, like everything else in the human experience. I have my own personal definition for what's normal for myself, but even that I use very loosely and mostly in reference to how stable I am in terms of my Schizoaffective Disorder. Otherwise, I don't use the term "normal" all that often. Why would I?
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 10:39 AM
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Uh oh problems brewing!!!! Why can't we all just get along???
Not a problem, I was just asking a question lol. Good morning to you too Underground, hahaha.
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 11:17 AM
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I know someone so empathetic they could be considered an empath. They are so nice it is creepy as f***!
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 09:25 PM
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Is it only me or is this thread becoming played out??? I do believe it to be true!!! Anyway as I don't have the time to start one now I will soon. This way we can start over again and look toward the positive rays that will surely be radiating from within. I can even appreciate someone else starting something new so that we have a new trend going, maybe someone who had sat back for a while and now shall make their self forward. Your chariot awaits!!!
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 09:30 PM
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Is it only me or is this thread becoming played out??? I do believe it to be true!!! Anyway as I don't have the time to start one now I will soon. This way we can start over again and look toward the positive rays that will surely be radiating from within. I can even appreciate someone else starting something new so that we have a new trend going, maybe someone who had sat back for a while and now shall make their self forward. Your chariot awaits!!!
Farewell for now,
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I do have a few ideas for new NPD related threads myself but I've had a hell of a busy week with a new job and a new therapist lol.

I'll start SOMETHING soon when time allows my awesome friend
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Old Oct 12, 2015, 09:35 PM
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As I said before...whether you like it or not, you're getting it from me, because unlike these idiots you mention:


I actually have the mental capacity to understand such things seeing as I only went through quite a bit of it myself as a kid.

I find it insulting when people comb me with the same comb they comb the rest with. Don't think I think like others think. I am, and will never be like everybody else you've met. Don't ever again compare me with the morons you've met in your life before me.
If you read the last part of my previous reply, you will see that I wasn't comparing you to the idiots who've entered and left my life:

"With that being said, part of me does long to be understood by people, however, I only desire to be understood by those closest to me and only if the person truly wants to understand, doesn't seek to judge or pity me, has the capacity to have an open mind, and proves they're capable of critical thought."

You have the capacity to understand me and you seem to care about me, therefore my post didn't apply to you

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 02:55 AM
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If you read the last part of my previous reply, you will see that I wasn't comparing you to the idiots who've entered and left my life:

"With that being said, part of me does long to be understood by people, however, I only desire to be understood by those closest to me and only if the person truly wants to understand, doesn't seek to judge or pity me, has the capacity to have an open mind, and proves they're capable of critical thought."

You have the capacity to understand me and you seem to care about me, therefore my post didn't apply to you

Sorry for the confusion.
Sorry, my mistake.

For a moment, I just thought you guys thought I was like one of those pretentious nasty (but good on the outside) people who pretend to care and feel what others feel, like they would ever understand anyways.

Sorry for all the confusion. A hot temper is a bit of a trademark of mine, I do apologize.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 05:35 AM
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Sorry, my mistake.

For a moment, I just thought you guys thought I was like one of those pretentious nasty (but good on the outside) people who pretend to care and feel what others feel, like they would ever understand anyways.

Sorry for all the confusion. A hot temper is a bit of a trademark of mine, I do apologize.
Hey man, I perfectly understand. I can't speak for everybody on this thread, but I don't feel that way about you.

Besides, we can't all be partners in crime while we're at each others throats, yes?
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 08:23 AM
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Sorry, my mistake.

For a moment, I just thought you guys thought I was like one of those pretentious nasty (but good on the outside) people who pretend to care and feel what others feel, like they would ever understand anyways.

Sorry for all the confusion. A hot temper is a bit of a trademark of mine, I do apologize.
My temper has been compared to a supervolcanic eruption when I actually do lose it, it's rare but alas every once in awhile it happens and it's quite spectacular! HA HA HA!
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 08:24 AM
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Is it only me or is this thread becoming played out??? I do believe it to be true!!! Anyway as I don't have the time to start one now I will soon. This way we can start over again and look toward the positive rays that will surely be radiating from within. I can even appreciate someone else starting something new so that we have a new trend going, maybe someone who had sat back for a while and now shall make their self forward. Your chariot awaits!!!
Farewell for now,
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I should start a topic sometime today, I'm getting "lazy" as you would say! HAHAHAHAHA!
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 09:09 AM
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As it seems we are all now drinking the kool-aid I will say that I too have a lil bit o temper myself. One that usually takes 2-3 days to fully get back to normal after having one. Some may even call it an anger issue. I'm so happy!!!
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 11:01 AM
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I think everybody is prone to rage to some degree. Even people like myself who take pride in being cold and unemotional and being able to use logic and reason to solve any problem in such a way that would be impossible for somebody with high levels of emotions or empathy are prone to the occasional fit throwing or temper flare.

Heck, just recently, I got angry at my smartphone and nearly threw the damn thing into the street haha
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