[pathway2FREEDOM]

I have crazy people in my life and I cannot take it. I was wondering the mental illness and/or personality disorder that would make you focuses on someone else, instead of dealing with their own mental health, emotions and life. They are fixated on me, negatively obsessed. They would be stalkers, except I know them. It very scary. There is also alot of negative retelling of my life and also $h!t that is completely made up. I though it might be nars, but now I do not know.

Thanks!

[leomama]

Maybe bpd?

[pathway2FREEDOM]

Originally Posted by leomama

Maybe bpd?

What is Borderline pd exactly? I thought it was when you fall for someone intensely that you do not know and when that relationship ends, you are suicidal. Do bdl smear you to others, malicious gossip fo lack of a better word, and call it helpful? Do BDl lies, stalk and become obsessed with you? This is negative obsession and it is completely not wanted.

[Atypical_Disaster]

It sounds like regardless of the exact diagnosis, these people are in a lot of denial from what you're describing. That is very hard to deal with, that I know from experience.

The behaviors you're describing(lying, stalking, obsessing, denial, etc) can go with a few personality disorders... It's hard to say over the internet and I'm not a professional.

I'm gonna go out on a limb hear and call it as it is:
HATERS!!!

[here today]

It may be more complicated than just a DSM category. Have you looked into theories of enmeshment in families and co-dependency?

[marmaduke]

NPD
Can be stalkers.
They lie lie lie. Rewrite history (gaslight)
Nasty b######s

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[here today]

Originally Posted by marmaduke

NPD
Can be stalkers.
They lie lie lie. Rewrite history (gaslight)
Nasty b######s

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Please, marmaduke, I experience these statements in this forum to be triggering and non-supportive.

Hope you appreciate this feedback as supportive and informative.

[marmaduke]

Um. Ok
Sorry.

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Originally Posted by here today

Please, marmaduke, I experience these statements in this forum to be triggering and non-supportive.

Hope you appreciate this feedback as supportive and informative.

AGREED 100% this could actually constitute a moderators ear. Oh wait we're not in that room, WE DON'T DO THAT HERE!!!!

[here today]

Originally Posted by Underground

AGREED 100% this could actually constitute a moderators ear. Oh wait we're not in that room, WE DON'T DO THAT HERE!!!!

Yes, the challenge is, what do we do instead? I'm making this up as I go along. (Hear this, PD therapists!! Would really help to have some places to go and learn and practice IRL.)

Thanks, marmaduke, for participating and not getting mad/defensive with me.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by marmaduke

NPD
Can be stalkers.
They lie lie lie. Rewrite history (gaslight)
Nasty b######s

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I don't find this post offensive, just honest; though I'm a malignant Narcissist and I think that makes a huge difference.

Wow. All I can say is a huge jaw dropping WOW. I was in the middle of getting you a gift but it "SOLD OUT"!!!!!!!
Speak for yourself, I took complete offense to the comment (Wiping away tears still). I feel hurt, depressed and now I can't even cope today. That is how offended I am.

[Atypical_Disaster]

Originally Posted by Underground

Wow. All I can say is a huge jaw dropping WOW. I was in the middle of getting you a gift but it "SOLD OUT"!!!!!!!
Speak for yourself, I took complete offense to the comment (Wiping away tears still). I feel hurt, depressed and now I can't even cope today. That is how offended I am.

That is exactly what I did.

Still SO HURT!!

[leomama]

Yes they do something called painting black if they are spurned.

[DBTDiva]

Originally Posted by pathway2FREEDOM

What is Borderline pd exactly? I thought it was when you fall for someone intensely that you do not know and when that relationship ends, you are suicidal. Do bdl smear you to others, malicious gossip fo lack of a better word, and call it helpful? Do BDl lies, stalk and become obsessed with you? This is negative obsession and it is completely not wanted.

https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Ment...ality-Disorder
The whole description might be helpful but here's part of it: "Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a condition characterized by difficulties in regulating emotion. This difficulty leads to severe, unstable mood swings, impulsivity and instability, poor self-image and stormy personal relationships. People may make repeated attempts to avoid real or imagined situations of abandonment. The combined result of living with BPD can manifest into destructive behavior, such as self-harm (cutting) or suicide attempts. ..."

Most of our lies are more like distortions based on our perception/feelings. Gossip, obsession, negativity toward you, those could be any number of things but regardless of dx it sounds like best to stay away from this person. They will likely become fixated on someone else once you are not around.

[pathway2FREEDOM]

Originally Posted by Underground

I'm gonna go out on a limb hear and call it as it is:
HATERS!!!

Ha ha, simply put.

[pathway2FREEDOM]

Originally Posted by DBTDiva

https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Ment...ality-Disorder
The whole description might be helpful but here's part of it: "Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a condition characterized by difficulties in regulating emotion. This difficulty leads to severe, unstable mood swings, impulsivity and instability, poor self-image and stormy personal relationships. People may make repeated attempts to avoid real or imagined situations of abandonment. The combined result of living with BPD can manifest into destructive behavior, such as self-harm (cutting) or suicide attempts. ..."

Most of our lies are more like distortions based on our perception/feelings. Gossip, obsession, negativity toward you, those could be any number of things but regardless of dx it sounds like best to stay away from this person. They will likely become fixated on someone else once you are not around.

Hey Diva,

I thought we would chat up in another thread. I am trying to get away, it's a complicated mess. You have BPD, is that right? Do alot of BDPs think nothing is wrong with them? I knew 2 BDPs that were out w/their diagnosis and they were diag in their early 20s, due to confusing sexual and romantic relationship issues. I have no idea how it would manifest in platonic relationships and families.
Geez!

[pathway2FREEDOM]

Originally Posted by leomama

Yes they do something called painting black if they are spurned.

That when a person would be described as demonic or extreme terminology and lies?

[leomama]

Originally Posted by pathway2FREEDOM

That when a person would be described as demonic or extreme terminology and lies?

I don't understand ?

[pathway2FREEDOM]

Originally Posted by leomama

Yes they do something called painting black if they are spurned.

Oh I just looked this term up and it is this. thanks

[leomama]

Originally Posted by pathway2FREEDOM

That when a person would be described as demonic or extreme terminology and lies?

It's called splitting and it's a defense mechanism

[DBTDiva]

Originally Posted by pathway2FREEDOM

Hey Diva,

I thought we would chat up in another thread. I am trying to get away, it's a complicated mess. You have BPD, is that right? Do alot of BDPs think nothing is wrong with them? I knew 2 BDPs that were out w/their diagnosis and they were diag in their early 20s, due to confusing sexual and romantic relationship issues. I have no idea how it would manifest in platonic relationships and families.
Geez!

I think a lot of everyone thinks there's nothing wrong with them. It's not exclusive to PDs. But yeah, everyone I know with a PD thought or thinks it's not them it's everyone else. The common denominator in all of it is always us though, like EVERYONE can't be abandoning me. I'm not an expert, I just have a lot of friends and family who have PDs and several of us are doing very well in recovery. BPD is a lot of abandonment fears for me, it manifests exactly the same way in platonic relationships as it does in romantic ones - I've been jealous of people's other friends, very hurt if they do things and I'm not invited (beyond FOMO, like "I don't ever want to talk to you again" hurt), really bad boundaries (a therapist asked me once what the difference between a friend & partner was because I had a bad habit of having lots of "friends with benefits").

I dont meet the criteria for BPD any longer, but I still have traits. Actually studies have shown that after 10 years of treatment most people with BPD improve enough that they could not be dxed with the illness any longer because they no longer meet enough criteria. It's great news, the prognosis is actually really good with DBT and if you get help.

Feel free to send me a private message if you want to speak off the thread.

[DBTDiva]

Originally Posted by leomama

It's called splitting and it's a defense mechanism

Yes, splitting happens with PDs but I wouldn't go so far as to call anyone "demonic." It's more like viewing you as two different people. When you're doing what we want, you're great, wonderful, perfect, the best ever, and when you're hurting us you're awful, scum of the earth, deserve no joy. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-and-npd-trait I encourage everyone to read this whole series of Randi Kreger's on the differences and similarities between NPD and BPD. I found it very helpful.