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Old Jun 06, 2010, 04:42 AM
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So if you are watching their kids (i.e. Feeding them, providing medical care) they might consider you a mandated reporter if someone reports this to CPS. Do you think that is likely?

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Old Jun 08, 2010, 12:32 PM
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Sorry, we were out of town for a few days and I haven't had a pc to check on here...

Anyway, I seriously doubt anyone other than me would ever report them for anything. I live in the South where the cops are part of the good ole boy system. If I were to report them, I would be the one to be headed for trouble, not them. Ironically, the mother has told the kids that if my son and her daughter don't start getting along that they won't be allowed to play with my son anymore. HA. It really all just pisses me off and is a huge trigger for me because of the way my son's getting treated... for now I am going to try to let this go, or at least stop talking about it so much because it is causing me a great deal of anxiety.
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 06:38 PM
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That is understandable. Take care of you and your children.
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Old Jun 09, 2010, 12:56 PM
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Thanks NF. I got myself all crazy about this last night and really freaked out. I honestly feel pushed out of my house over this. I wish we could move. I cannot deal with this.
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Old Jun 10, 2010, 09:41 AM
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Old Jun 10, 2010, 08:28 PM
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perpetuallysad, I expect you are getting mighty tired of me suggesting calling someone. When is gets to the point you feel you are being pushed out of your house, I suggest it is time to act.
Knowledge is power. My thought is for you to call the Child Desertion Unit and explain what is going on, including your thought of wanting to move to escape the stress this problem is causing. Ask the Case Worker what if anything can be done so you do not have to be the surrogate mother for these unfortunate children.

Child Desertion Unit
  • Kynda Walker, Case Worker
  • P.O. Box 2
  • Jackson, MS 39205
  • Telephone: 601-359-4250
As an adjunct to this discussion, in theory no one is above the law--certainly not a police officer. While practicing as an attorney, I tested that theory more than once. I was not always successful but more learned that malfeasance is not acceptable than walked away with a smile on their face.

In any event, I have many times called agencies anonymously to get information useful in cases I was working on. If the Case Worker cannot help you, ask to be directed to the agency that can. Once you know more you will be in a better position to decide what you want to do.

Good luck.
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Old Jun 10, 2010, 09:51 PM
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(((Perpetuallysad))) I’m SO sorry that you’re dealing with this! I know exactly how you feel, but I have no positive answer for you. The times that I’ve dealt with it, I just sucked it up and dealt, until I just couldn’t tolerate it anymore.

I moved because I just couldn’t tolerate my neighbors anymore. It got to the point that I not only had their kids, but their nieces and nephews as well. Our new place seemed like a dream, until summer. My backyard neighbor used to tell her son “you play with X so I can take a nap.” This chic was so bold as to actually inform me that my dog (a Rott) should be tied up in the front yard. You see she was afraid of dogs, and did not feel comfortable sending her son across the yard when my dog was tied up out back. She was an inside pet, and it didn’t seem to bother the woman to have her son playing in my house WITH the dog, just didn’t want him walking by it. She was only outside when I was hanging clothes on the line, doing her business or when we were all outside eating, playing or whatever.

She actually confronted me about it! I said that since my dog made her feel uncomfortable she should keep her son out of my yard in general. When I refused to move the dog, she started calling the police, stating the dog was running loose. They came three times, each time the dog was sleeping in the house, the third time my father happened to be visiting, he heard the call on his radio (also a police officer, but different department), he actually responded “I am currently at that residence, have been here for over an hour eating dinner and the dog hasn’t even gone outside!” When they came the third time, I explained what the problem was and they paid her a visit instead.

I’ve always felt guilty when I reached my breaking point and severed the relationship with the children, because they are victims of their parent’s stupidity. I tried to give them the love and attention that they weren’t getting at home, but when it starts to interfere with your own family life and happiness, you have to do something. When you cannot even enjoy your own back yard because you’re afraid to see the pleading eyes…

Like I said, the time before I had to move. It got so oppressive! I couldn’t feed my kids lunch outside on their picnic table anymore. Keeping them inside didn’t help, the neighbor’s would come to the door, I’d tell them to come back later, the kids were eating and they’d say something like “boy that smells good.” What do you do?

I wanted to teach my kids to be kind and generous, but not door mats.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 02:39 AM
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Ok, I'll try to be brief about this (but I know I won't be!)...

Its summer, I have a 9 yr old son. We have 2 children that live in the house next door, a girl 10 and a boy 8. They play with my son most everyday. The boy is pretty sweet, quiet and generally well behaved as any 8 yr old. The girl is NOT. She is angry, mean, bossy, yells and screams at both boys a lot and generally causes a lot of problems. For a while I was pretty hard on my son because I was under the impression he was causing (or greatly contributing to) these problems. But I have tried to stand back and observe their behavior for a while and its pretty clear the girl is just not very nice.

This leads to many problems. First off, I don't particularly like someone treating my son like this and he really, really doesn't want to play with her. But because she is the boy's sister, its sort of a package deal. The parents are EXTREMELY neglectful of these kids, they are put outside early in the morning and basically aren't allowed back in all day. That is, on the days there are actually adults at home. Most days they are both alone or they just leave the 8 yr old alone outside for like 8-10 hours at a time (no phone, locked out of the house ALONE). I live in a small town. The dad is a cop and they believe this behavior is perfectly acceptable and are completely unwilling to even talk reasonably about the daughter's behavior and do not give one lick about leaving the kids (one or both) alone like this.

Ok, we have a nice, large yard with a fence, inside the fence we have a swing set, pool and trampoline. The kids (of course) want access to these things. So far, I will allow limited access to the swing and occasionally the trampoline, but I have zero intentions of letting them in the pool. Neither of them know how swim, no parents at home, blah blah. I don't want the responsibility of dealing with them and these "dangers". I have specifically told them they will not be allowed to swim under any circumstances, yet they ask CONSTANTLY. We've only been in the pool once so far and they stood on the other side of the fence staring until my son felt pressured and got out to go play with them.

So this is annoying. But it gets more annoying.

This morning my son and boy were playing with cars out front and the boy cut his fingers pretty badly on some glass. They come to me, since I'm closest (or at least that's what I assumed at first). I clean him up the best I can but he's still bleeding and I feel he needs a parents attention. I wrap his hand and take him home. About 2 mins later, he comes back with the sister and they say they cannot wake the mom up because they will get "in trouble" (which this means grounded). So I bring him back in, clean the wounds the best I am comfortable with (if it were my son I wouldn't have been so nervous, but you know your kid best, right??) and bandaged everything up.

So basically I am furious at these ****** *** neglectful parents. I mean, seriously, your kids cannot wake you up when they are BLEEDING? I had a bad feeling that I would end up being the de facto babysitter this summer and it looks like I have ended up that way. I am not cool with this, yet I am not willing to leave a kid outside bleeding out on my yard.

The parents DO NOT CARE what I say. They will not change this behavior. And before everyone tells me to call child services know some things about where I live: (1) he's a cop, so his word will trump mine any day (2) because the kids aren't physically abused and are being fed, child services will not investigate anything (3) in MS there is literally no law about the age a kid can be alone. The basic rule is that you cannot leave a kid under 5 babysitting younger children, but you can essentially leave any kid alone for however long you want.

I am so frustrated about all of this though. I don't know how to deal with it.
Just remember you're being a good person, and those deeds alone will carry over to those children, giving them HOPE, and an understanding of what "Good" is, just keep doing what can be done within some sort of boundaries and those kids WILL benefit in baby steps but still, GOOD WILL is not wasted on the babes ok.
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Old Aug 27, 2010, 10:26 PM
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Whatever else you do, if one of these kids is ever injured again and says they can't go into their own house or wake up their mom, go ahead and call EMS. I agree with the person who suggested that, because of course EMS won't do anything without the parent's permission, which will mean the mother will have to get involved with her own kid. And yes, she may get angry and she may even punish the child, but the children are being neglected badly and probably abused already, plus an emergency medical technician isn't going to be blown off as easily as you might be, and they are required to report abuse. And -- just a thought -- not to stress you out or anything, but you do have liability insurance on your property? Most homeowner's policies include it. You are wise in any case not to let these kids in your pool. Good luck!
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 01:35 AM
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Greetings,

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Old Aug 29, 2010, 01:59 PM
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PS, you have a heart of gold, but don't let fear and resentment be the main feelings you have with these kids. NF had a good point about calling EMS, and letting them take the bull by the horns. I live in a place with a considerable "ole boy" mentality. The Bullies are allowed to do what they want, and if you sound the alarm, you are the problem for causing the ruckus, not them. So, best get EMS or some other obligatory reporter quietly aware of the situation and let them handle it. Also, Byz has some good points about calling for anonoymous advice. I have done so in the past, and this is too much to manage for you alone. Bless you for being a caring soul in their world, Dear.! HUGGGGSSSS.
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