I think it's a hoax.

I love the many funny posts of DaveyJones in this thread, but I want to comment on this one:

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Who knows, perhaps one day everyone will be shown to be abnormal...thus confirming what we already know!

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By definition, we'd all be normal, then!

All emotions are controlled by brain chemicals, so it's very easy to define anything as a disorder. I'm not sure if anyone knows exactly what is the proper level of all brain chemicals, and it might be different from person to person.

Sabrina, I didn't know you had posted this anywhere... but was referring to the blog item on the front page, plus the news media coverage I've read.

As for it already being in the DSM IV I had no idea...but still think it's bogus. Ok, if they really want to label yet another symptom... but really!

I think it's part of being selfish...and acting out. Years ago I wrote about and may have posted here, the "me me me" generation. I had elaborated about how with the computer coming into our lives, the younger generation (then) learned to have WHAT they wanted WHEN they wanted.

Not too long after the "computer in every home" aspect, the "road rage" came on the scene. Again, I determined imo that the road rage was an extension of the instant gratification expectation remnants of the computer usage... ppl wanted others out of there way and they wanted them to move NOW. They did want to stop for red lights, or stop signs, or be stuck in traffic... no they wanted to go where they wanted and they wanted to be there already!

This IED's supposed symptom list is all of 3 items long, and 2 of them suggest "motivation to.." how lame is that?

(My reference to IED and Iraq, btw is the acronym for the suicide weapon.)

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Etiology

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This disorder is apparently rare, with the majority of cases occurring when the individual is between late adolescence and late twenties

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I knew about this disorder around the same time it was discovered! My ex gf has it really bad. She gets fits of rage and reacts quiet violently. It's really bad.

Oh I do believe ppl do have fits of rage, and this causes them and others problems.

The IED tag says IF no other dx is counted... IDK I find it interesting (if not connected...) that the same experts are redefining bipolar disorder ...along the lines of maybe having only rage at times (am I thinking clearly attributing this to bipolar disorder?) and how the incidence of bipolar disorder has increased...

Plus, with so many ppl in the world having been traumatized, who's to say that it isn't a reflection of that, and possibly undiagnosed PTSD.

Yeah, ok IMO it's just too easy a tag to throw at someone, a young someone, for their acting out, uncontrolled impulses... I just don't get the reason for the new dx ... my personal problem I guess

too many labels are being invented, these new dx's do the ppl show accountability for there actions, we do
as Ozzie said tis pure anger manegment problem IMO

who or what is "IMO?"

http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz...e_disorder.jsp I did a search on this and came up with a lot of hits the one here is one of them.

IMO-"In My Opinion". Also IMHO-"In My Humble Opinion".

DJ

DaveyJones

Thank you Davey, IMHO could also be In My Honest Opinion hahaha

I think that any doctor is more willing to say there is something wrong with a person than to think that they are actually normal.

I know some parents that have ADHD kids who are actually quite normal. Just my opinion, though.

For more of those handy but wacky acronyms, try:

http://www.anapsid.org/internet/smileys.html#net

HTH!

DJ

Ok... consider this... (don't get me wrong..I KNOW there is a problem for ppl.)

BUT it says to use this IF it doesn't fall into any other dx. . . . IDK maybe noone thinks like I do (and that might be a good thing?)

But... look how many disorders include impulse control issues. And we dx this one because they show out bursts at others...

yes, I do think that there are plenty of ppl who have been hit in the head one way or another and ended up with angry outbursts.. etc (BTW I think this dx was based upon 27 people's response....

Other than for a medical reason... why do ppl become angry? I mean, even with PTSD...where there is pathology for reactions... ppl become angry when they lose control...when things don't go as planned.... when they want things to be the way THEY want them to be...

ok I'm just blathering here. Maybe I shouldn't post at all when I'm depressed. (But in my irrational reality at this time, I feel I do some good thinking when depressed )

You only THINK you're irrational! LOL You hit it right on the head as far as I'm concerned!

Let's try some science, shall we?

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Anger Syndrome Not Just Bouts of Bad Behaviour

Medical Condition News
Published: Tuesday, 6-Jun-2006

Researchers in the United States are saying that Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED) often known as Road Rage, may be far more common than previously thought.

The condition which causes people to react violently often for no apparent reason, is vastly under-diagnosed, say the U.S. researchers and they believe as many as 16 million Americans have been affected by IED in which the sufferer displays an inappropriate level of violence.

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, IED attacks are out of proportion to the social stressors triggering them and are not due to another mental disorder or the effects of drugs or alcohol.

As a rule people with the disorder overreact to situations with uncontrollable rage, feel a sense of relief during the angry outburst, and then feel remorseful about their actions.

According to researchers from Harvard Medical School and Chicago University 4% of the US population have severe IED which is manifested with three or more outbursts a year.

Although IED is a clearly defined and accepted mental disorder it was always unclear how many people might be affected.

Study author Emil Coccaro MD, the Ellen C. Manning professor and chair of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Chicago Pritzker School of Medicine, says if people explain such explosive outbursts as just bad behaviour, they are not accepting the problem is a serious biomedical one which can be treated.

In order for a person to be diagnosed with IED they must have had three episodes of impulsive aggressiveness which are grossly out of proportion to the situation, such as that seen in cases of road rage or domestic violence, where control is suddenly completely lost and the person breaks or smashes something, hits or tries to hurt someone, or threatens to hurt someone.

For the research the team assessed the results of a national face-to-face survey, the 'National Comorbidity Survey Replication', of 9,282 U.S. adults carried out between 2001 and 2003 in conjunction with the World Health Organization World Mental Health Survey Initiative.

They found that 7.3% of the population could be classed as having IED, a much higher rate than previously estimated and around eight million adults had the most severe form of IED, with much more frequent outbursts.

It is suggested that the average person with IED will carry out 43 attacks, and the condition appears to first manifest itself during adolescence, with the average age of the first episode found to be 13 for males and 19 for females.

Although most study respondents had seen a professional in order to deal with emotional problems, only 12% had been treated for their anger in the past 12 months and only 29% of people had ever received treatment for the condition.

Among people with this disorder, 81.8 percent also were diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and alcohol or drug abuse disorders.

Study leader Ronald Kessler, PhD, professor of health care policy at Harvard Medical School, says IED is not a clinical term well-known in society, but the weight of these numbers should help patients and physicians recognise the pervasiveness of the disorder and develop appropriate treatment strategies.

The researchers suggest that identifying the condition early on through violence prevention strategies in schools and providing appropriate treatment, might prevent problems such as alcohol and drug dependency and depression, which are associated with the disorder, appearing later in life.

Coccaro says effective treatment for IED includes both behavioral and pharmacological interventions (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors and mood stabilizers) but ideally, people should be treated with both drugs and cognitive-behavioral therapy.

He says drugs increase the threshold at which people will explode, and cognitive-behavior therapy teaches people how to handle the feelings of frustration or threat that often lead to the explosive episodes.

The report is published in the current issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry.

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I guess my point is that, just as I want help and understanding for my disorder, I'm betting most of these people do too.

Pax,

DJ

This was a great post. I feel it's nonsense, and another label or DX for something that is just poor behaviour,selfishness,rudeness, etc. just plain old spoiled.
I personally believe it is not a disorder, and it's not Bipolarism either, just another excuse for someone to act the way he or she wishes, and latch onto some written disorder as an excuse or ticket to behave badly.
Take care