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Rhapsody said: A true fact: MEN give LOVE to receive SEX (and) FEMALES give SEX to receive LOVE. (even within a loving / committed relationship) (and) while we, the adults, know that this is not the truth of the matter - that sex does not equal love we have to remember that we are dealing with young people here and they still have a lot to learn..... heck lets face it, some adults never learn that lesson. LoVe, Rhapsody - ![]() </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Rap ... I'm confused ... I don't think even as a teenager I or my friends had sex in order to get love ... we LIKE sex ... I also think there are a lot of little Lolitas out there ... also IMO kids need to be taught common sense around the internet ... i'm not sure if that should be done at school or at home ... but 'that 14 year old boy may not be 14' ... better to teach them some skills to try and work the person out and ABOVE ALL that you should not meet ppl from the internet alone and not in a public place. This has prolly already been said, apologies, i dont have time to read whole thread - interesting stuff however. |
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ALRIGHT!!! About damn time!! Maybe this will start the ball rolling on other similar sights!
The kids that post sexually don't have the first clue what can happen to them, I'm sure!! No guidance from their parents! Why is it that parents leave the education and care of their treasures to strangers??? I'll never understand it!
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AMEN!!! - SeptemberMorn
HUGS!!! - Maven EDUCATION!!! - SunFlower (most kids don't - but they realize it as they age) (I will try to write more on that subject later - going to a party here soon). LoVe, Rhapsody - ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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and please keep in mind that MEN use SEX to emotionally bond with the one they love..... </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> No, No, No! This ONLY happens when the man has a significant other. From the mouth of a man... "Men consider sex as a nice way to say 'Hi' ".
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That's certainly true of a lot of men. I know not all the guys out there are like that, but I've known a lot of men who make that same joke, and you see it a lot on TV/in movies, only it's not really a joke.
I'm not opposed to MySpace or any other site taking some precautions and making their sites safer for kids, just so you all know; I'm just saying parents need to do their part, too, because they have more power to protect their kids than a bunch of software does.
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I remember growing up my mom never supervised what I was doing...at home or otherwise. She didn't watch what I was doing when we got the internet, either. That was probably some form of neglect but sometimes I wish she would've set more limitations on my activities because I would think that she cared.
My sister constantly got grounded and I got so mad at my mom because I saw that punishment as love...that she loved my sister more even though I was 12 years old! I think that my mom's lack of supervision adds to a lot of the things I've got into trouble with...off and online.
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SeptemberMorn said: </font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font> and please keep in mind that MEN use SEX to emotionally bond with the one they love..... </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> No, No, No! This ONLY happens when the man has a other. From the mouth of a man... "Men consider sex as a nice way to say 'Hi' ". </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Yes I totally agree with you here - that some SINGLE UNATTACHED MALES do by all means like/use SEX to say HI, BYE, lets have FUN or just for pure PLEASURE..... BUT if you were to re-read the last 5 words of the statement you quoted me saying you will see that it say: "WITH THE ONE THEY LOVE" - hence meaning they have that significant other you spoke of.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PeAcE. LoVe, (your friend) Rhapsody - ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Maven said: I'm not opposed to MySpace or any other site taking some precautions and making their sites safer for kids, just so you all know; I'm just saying parents need to do their part, too, because they have more power to protect their kids than a bunch of software does. </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Neither am I toatally opposed to MySpace - I am just glad that the LAW finally stepped up and done some thing (their part) to make this site safer for KIDS.... and btw I am 100% firm believer in the parents doing there part in the goal of safety for our children - I DO MY PART!!! LoVe, (your friend) Rhapsody - |
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We're talking about perverts, here, though. Men in general, don't hold sex to the higher standards and emotionality that women do. So how much less would a pervert think of sex? It's not only a "pleasure," it's a deveation from the norm.
And hey... lots of married men also think it's a nice way to say "Hi" to women who are NOT their spouse!
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I'm a MySpace user, and the things I see never cease to amaze me......more like disgust me at times.
My sister is 17, she's very mature, but still a minor and under the age of 18. On her friend list there are many men over the age of 20, and some even in their 30's. On the 1st, my sister is going to Washington D.C to spend a week with one of them. She's already met the guy and he seems nice, but still he's 23 and Washington D.C is far from here. Of course mom don't care, I've already tried to talk her out of it. I'm concerned about the freedom MySpace allows with their users. It's almost impossible to monitor millions of users and their profiles. Tom, the MySpace maker, needs to hire a large amount of undercover users to help monitor everybody's profiles and chat rooms. If there was more monitoring then the crimes will reduce dramatically. Something has to be done, I think personally. Now, I am a MySpace user as I said earlier and I don't feel the way I use MySpace is inappropriate. But if I was a mother to a teenager, I sure in the hell would not allow them to have a profile on MySpace. You may as well as put up an advertisement that says "I'm 16, and ready for you to manipulate and scam me".
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SeptemberMorn said: We're talking about perverts, here, though. Men in general, don't hold sex to the higher standards and emotionality that women do. And hey... lots of married men also think it's a nice way to say "Hi" to women who are NOT their spouse! </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Yes SeptemberMorn I agree with you (smiling) that many married people like to say HI to other people with sex.... but please do keep the info in the context that it was written for (people in love) - and I have to say that after doing / being a part of the survey that was done WORLD WIDE (by men of all ages and status) I have greatly altered my opinion and thoughts concerning men and how they view sex.... I think how you feel (as stated in your last post) and how I used to feel is largely due to how society and the adult industry has set men up to be..... perverts. ................. For MEN are changing and saying - They BOND thru SEX...... with their LOVED ONE. Men used SEX for bonding, pleasure, fun and yes, even to relieve stress - stated by men from all around the USA and not by me. LoVe, Rhapsody - ((( hugs ))) P.S. I am not here to dispute this info with you, but rather to help you (and others grow) - for I too would not accept what I was learning to be the real truth about men in love - for I had believed differently for so long and I was wounded by the men that did not hold this fact as their own truth..... I always say there are exceptions to every rule. |
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desirae said: Now, I am a MySpace user as I said earlier and I don't feel the way I use MySpace is inappropriate. But if I was a mother to a teenager, I sure in the hell would not allow them to have a profile on MySpace. You may as well as put up an advertisement that says "I'm 16, and ready for you to manipulate and scam me". </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> I agree - - - when I hear that a young girl (or boy) has a profile on MySpace my hair stands on end..... I think and want to scream at the parents.... ARE YOU NUTS? DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR OWN DAUGHTER? LoVe, Rhapsody - ![]() |
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Rhapsody said: FINALLY..... Someone has actually brought a law suite against MYSpace and of course the company settled out of court.... but now due to this law suite MySpace is being made to put into play strong measures to keep children 16 and under safe from online predictors.... those that would seek to rape and emotionally harm the little ones. (this action is to start next week) </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> augh! i'm am all for accountability on internet companies who do not have safeguards to protect children. however, who is suing or prosecuting her parents? unmonitored internet usage in children's hands are like unsecured guns in the home. |
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Jennie, generally speaking, parents let the TV, the computer and their children's teachers raise their kids. Kids nowadays are growing up with the moral values taught on the TV, Computer and by the teachers!! Parents DON'T monitor any of these things! GENERALLY speaking, that is.
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Subject line of this thread: A law suite against MYSpace.com - Graphic Sexual Content
Rhapsody: No LOVE is not based on SEX - but SEX is based on LOVE (or should be).... SeptemberMorn: The operative words here (or SHOULD be) We're talking about perverts, here, though. Rhapsody: please do keep the info in the context that it was written Who's out of context here?
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SeptemberMorn said: Subject line of this thread: A law suite against MYSpace.com - Graphic Sexual Content Rhapsody: No LOVE is not based on SEX - but SEX is based on LOVE (or should be).... SeptemberMorn: The operative words here (or SHOULD be) We're talking about perverts, here, though. Rhapsody: please do keep the info in the context that it was written Who's out of context here? </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> YES.... I do know the original subject that I started the thread with BUT you QUOTED the sentence of: SeptemberMorn said: Quote: and please keep in mind that MEN use SEX to emotionally bond with the one they love..... (and not the ones you stated from above) - you came into the discussion as it was changing, becoming off topic, when you read that statement I made - we were talking about some thing else then..... In the later I was stating my thoughts on MEN in LOVE and using SEX to BOND with the one they LOVE (and) not about the perverts that take SEX for their own pleasure.... which btw is sick sick sick! LoVe, Rhapsody - ............................ PeAcE out on this ONE. |
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Please keep your posts supportive. If you have personal issues, take it to pm. This isn't the place to argue.
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SAFE TO READ:
PLEASE NOTE: Most of this post is safe to read, but I'm using a trigger icon for a couple of links at the end. I'm not posting text from the links, so they're probably safe, too, but the articles may upset some. jennie said: </font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font> augh! i'm am all for accountability on internet companies who do not have safeguards to protect children. however, who is suing or prosecuting her parents? unmonitored internet usage in children's hands are like unsecured guns in the home. </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> I wonder the same thing, jennie! Not just in the cases with MySpace, but a number of things where unmonitored and undisciplined kids get into or cause trouble. Aren't parents who endanger their kids supposed to get in trouble? Yes, there would be a lot of parents in trouble, but if they deserve it, they should get it! I'm not trying to be nitpicky, but men don't have sex with women to say, "Hi!" These men don't care about hi or introductions...your name doesn't matter to them...they just want to have sex. I briefly looked at a popular MySpace layouts site today, and it had a section where users could add their MySpace site to a "train." I scanned the first page, and while most of the sexy pics were by adults (18 or over), there were minors with inappropriate pics or text. That's no surprise, nor anything new--you can easily find these sites with a MySpace search--but I still feel compelled to look and shake my head. For that matter, on this site, and it could be a popular Internet terminology, using graphics, links, or other things to get people to add you as a friend, people call it "***** Me." While I'm fine with adults using the term, I wouldn't want my kid to have images or text that request that, rather than "Add Me" or "Let's Be Friends," or something like that. I might consider letting my child have a MySpace site, but I'd only allow him or her to work on it in my presence, and I'd know everything posted and said on it. But I don't blame anyone who wouldn't allow it, period. I know a parent who won't let her child on the Internet at all. I'm not against that, but don't schools often require kids to research things on the Net these days? I might be wrong on that, but I thought I'd heard that somewhere. I have heard that kids pretty much need computers these days for schoolwork. POSSIBLE TRIGGER LINKS Anyway, here are a couple of articles that might be of interest to people here. Sex Offender Law Puts Nearly Everywhere Off Limits MySpace Runaway Wants to Marry Man She Met Online
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I don't know a whole lot about MYSPACE.com... So I have little to say on this topic... I just did an online search and there are programs for parents to monitor their children's online activities..... is one way to help parents....
After reading this thread I am wondering if we are putting too much blame on the parents... Teens as I recall when my kids were teens, "They know it all".. And even when parents do have values set in their home, it is not guaranteed the kids will follow... In my case, there were never drugs or alcohol in our home... But my son when a teen got into both drugs and drinking. Anyway, a bad trip on drugs scared my son straight.. He never touched them again... I think most parents try, I know I did.. Teens don't know what they are doing.... The TOTAL blame I feel, of course is the predators... Seems predators have been around since the beginning of time....... It is NOW time they are stopped..... I feel harsher punishments for predators is called for... If we can eliminate the predators, we all would be a lot safer.... Sad to think we have to live our lives looking over our shoulders...... The Internet is a great place to catch these jerks.........Lets catch them... I don't care how they are caught, or what methods are used, just get themmmmmmm.. get them allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll... You know a lot of folks are shocked this kind of stuff happens... Thank GOD people /victims are NOW talking... In the past, folks kept this kind of thing hush hush..so few only knew this stuff happened, just the predator and victim... victims were ashamed or afraid to talk.... now they are talking and exposing the predators...Predators can no longer get away with it......it is about time........ |
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It's a nice idea, radio_flyer, but we can't get them all. Even if we could eliminate every single one that exists today, more will be born. They're not always the result of abusive or bad parents; sometimes they are born that way, or maybe predispositioned towards it, and something happens that brings it out.
And they're not just in the US. In some countries, it's legal to marry young girls. Even when it's illegal to have sex with children, sometimes the law enforcement permits it (usually because the bad guys pay them to). And, yes, while the predators are the real ones to blame, that doesn't give parents the right to ignore their responsibilities. A man isn't to blame if he gets robbed because he allows his money to hang out of his pocket; that doesn't give a thief the right to take his money. But we know there are thieves out there who will take advantage of such a situation, so it is best to be a little careful and make it less easy for the bad guys to take advantage of the good guys.
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Good point Maven.. good point........That prob is my magical thinking talking... just hurts when innocent people are hurt by selfish uncaring people........
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I'm not trying to be nitpicky, but men don't have sex with women to say, "Hi!" These men don't care about hi or introductions...your name doesn't matter to them...they just want to have sex. </div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> LOL Same thing!
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I hate that people sit and play the blame game and expect someone else to find a fix for a problem that we are all part of. It's so easy to point and shake the finger at MySpace and demand that THEY be the one to make our children safer.
MySpace isn't responsible for this garbage. They aren't not the ones buying teens webcams and allowing them the time and the pace to create and post provocative photos on the internet. They are not responsible for teens lying about their age so that they can have sexual conversations with adults online - and I'm not talking about kids trying to entrap pedophiles. I'm talking about teens that think it's fun and ok to have sexual conversations with strangers online. MySpace isn't the one responsible for these teens thinking that love is a fantasy and that sex is romantic and easy. MySpace isn't responsible. We are responsible. How often do you see adults behaving online in ways that would be innapropriate for teens to behave? How often does this occur where teens are likely present? Does anyone ever stand up and demand that they set a better example? Does anyone care that adults behave this way? NO. Because this is the internet and people can do whatever they want and never have to be responsible. I have told adults to curb their language and behavior and I've been banned for it. I think people come on the internet thinking they can run away from all responsibility. This is the place to just have fun and do everything you would never otherwise do. And why shouldn't teens behave in the same way? Why shouldn't they put themselves at risk? Adults are making it abundantly clear that throwing ALL the rules out is what's FUN. Anyone who doesn't is uptight. MySpace isn't responsible for our children, we are. I'm frustrated and rambling and I'll try to use good sense and stay away from this thread from here on out. |
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Kalamity, I'm with you all the way, except for one thing. I think ALL decent adults should be responsible for the safety off ALL children.
Most of the members here, on PC, are adults with a certain percentage of teenagers. Even before the teenagers came on the scene, Doc John, the owner of this site, made damn sure that US ADULTS were as safe as could be. But as adults we are responsible for our own safety as well. The owners of MySpace knew beforehand that they were going to cater to the younger generation. They should have taken AT LEAST the same precautions that Doc John took with this site, if not more. Maybe the fact that I'm a grandmother, I realize just what a treasure young kids and babies are. They should be treated as such by EVERYONE!
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