Anti Wal Mart

you all have to admit Walmart does bring in alot of jobs for cities/towns that might otherwise have people on welfare. But that being said Walmart is not the only chain that I am sure practice the things listed here many times. Target, Kmart, just to name 2.

RF, it's better buying something used at Goodwill or anywhere else than buying something new because, I'll say it once again, that little kid in the sweatshop didn't have to manufacture it the second time, the Earth's resources didn't have to be raped a second time, trucks, trains, and planes didn't have to gas up and pollute the environment a second time. Is that sinking in?

And I think this thread, while called Anti WalMart, has evolved into big gluttonous businesses in general. WalMart is just the most visible with their questionable practices.

Like I say.............. to each their own, for I do certainly boycott many different businesses and products due to personal feelings / objections.

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

I agree wi!!!! good posting

NOT SINKING IN.... I think your reasons are a poor excuse to buy Gap or designer clothes and then want to burn wal mart.. lol ... So that poor lil kid in sweat shops didn't have to make the shirt twice is your reason... OMG.... IF we are gonnna cry over sweat shops, it is best to take action the first time, and not relish in the goods for self then go and cry poor lil kid... burn wal mart... lol........

Am glad you are saving the environment by buying GAP at Goodwill...... you go girl......

RF, you're turning this into bashing me individually. I'm just trying to get my views across.

ANY big business is bad for the environment, even crap ***** Athletic Works and Faded Glory and Ol' Roy pet food, not just Gap and The Limited. BTW, I also buy WalMart brand items at Goodwill if I'm so inclined and I don't plan on wearing it more than a season because it's a trendy item.

My point is, why perpetuate buying poor-quality clothes that probably have to be remanufactured four times to replace that one quality item that comes from a higher-end business and will last for years, not one season if even that long?

This isn't an argument against a person's character, it's about taking personal responsibility for our dwindling environment.

Good Lord girl... I am not bashing you.... Because I disagree with you I am bashing you????? I do belive you mentioned to me... IS IT SINKING IN.... and I told you >>> IS NOT SINKING IN>.. lol..............now your just being silly..... seems like everyone here has to agree with everyone to get along.. ... lordy lordy...

((((((((((wi_fighter))))))))))....... I am not against you.... I just disagree with you... k........... am sorry if I made you feel bad... Please forgive me...

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ok. Can I offer some advice? It's ok to disagree about whether we shop at Walmart or not, and state our opinion as to why. It is NOT okay to tell other people that they are wrong for their reasons or the choices they have made.

I see a number of posts here which contribute to this ending up seeming like a personal attack (which I agree that it kind of does). Some of this should have been taken to PM. If any of you are interested in my opinion about what your contribution to the heatedness might have been, send me a PM and we can discuss it.

For now, let's agree to limit our responses to how WE feel and act, and not comment about others' decisions unless it is clear that they are open to it. Thanks

Walmart strangles the littlier family businesses into closure and those people have to work for less money at Walmart just to pay their bills. It removes individuality and self sufficiency and lowers the quality of community and creative service. In short, it's like a bad weed that only takes. Just my opinion after I lost my sporting goods store to Walmart

I think I want to join the cry wagon.... Somebody asked if "it is sinking in"... i thought that was a personal attack on my intelligence... and i feel so bad now I am crying my lil heart out.... They hurt my feelings...

Just add me to the cry wagon, please.....

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Bartering, exchanging, and repurposing have been around for centuries. I think it's time that we go back to those ways to preserve the Earth's existence as long as possible, before we don't have a choice and we're forced to live in a way we're not accustomed to. We need to be more self sufficient and reliant on our own strengths and those of other individuals instead of giving mega industries more reason to glut the Earth of it's natural resources.

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Unfortunately, currently we are stuck with big businesses like Wal-mart.

Who will be replacing Wal-mart in the future? You are looking at it. A network of computers doing commerce.

In the future, almost everyone will lose their job at Wal-mart and big businesses (except storing, packaging, and shipping), and everything else will be automated by computers. Computer geeks will run things for a while until a computer replaces them.

Be happy we aren't forced to commerce via cashless monetary transactions. We still have our fiat paper and coin money to play with. When that goes . . . choice to barter traditionally also no longer is a legal option. (For example, not only is there tax issues, all illegal businesses run on barter, so if you don't want to be labeled a criminal or terrorist you'll be forced to do e-money system.) The top 1% won't need us anymore.

We are stuck. Enjoy your<font color="blue"> Wal-mart Way of Life </font> and your freedoms while you can.

i believe, firmly, that our life experiences shape us differently and we go about our daily lives due to how we were reared and what we've personally taught ourselves along the way. and i'm not one to being content at maintaining the status quo. i try to learn something with each experience that comes down the pike.

i am from Southeastern Oklahoma. Weyerhauser is a huge lumber company. they came into Oklahoma, raped, pillaged and sprayed the same herbicide that was used in Vietnam, to kill the hardwoods. (Oregon ran them out of their state) (southeastern Oklahoma has a higher percentage of cancer than any other area nearby...) i am proud to say that i worked my *** off building a house that did not have a single board in it that Weyerhauser milled. i believe that's what this thread is about. either doing it one way or the other.

big business has it's way with us. AND we can resist or we can go along with it. i resist. i believe that i'm a steward of this planet and i intend to die defending the life of this earth. i wasn't put here to waste, clutter, ignore and damage what was given to me by my higher power. i totally believe in buying second hand clothing. i agree wholeheartedly with shirley's reasoning. my daughters' buy almost all of the toys that their children have at thrift stores and re-sale kid stores. we buy almost NO processed food. you can talk the talk and walk the walk, if you are so inclined.

if anyone wants a list, i can tell you which companies test on animals. that's how conscious i am about what i buy.

i know this started about Wal-mart and morphed off into about sixty different things.....but it's been educational for me. i'm glad that it is here.

we all managed to live through the Dateline thread. i imagine we'll live through this one.

I am sorry .. but that is your right of choice to not accept my apology WI_fighter.... All I wanted to say was "peace"... but your choice to not accept my apology is ok..... I am sorry if I have offended anyone..

excuse me, but where in this thread did I say I wouldn't accept your apology? I didn't.

Back to shopping at Walmart...I'm a person where it's not so convenient to shop there. I rarely do. However, if it were more convenient, I'm sure I would.

KD

i still stick with the fact that we can discuss "hot topics" and live through it. pat

I agree.

I am going to take a break though. I have other things that need accomplishing today, I've stated my opinion, I think it's more than obvious where I stand, so I'm not going to continue beating my head against a wall.

Agreeing to disagree for the time being.

I'm going to exit for the moment with a quote my grandma used to say, and I think more of us should take it to heart. It's where my strong belief in the practically of buying previously-owned goods comes from. I'm sure Big Box Mart would disagree.

"Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without."

I agree as well, Pat, wholeheartedly. However, when an issue in a thread becomes personal (even in appearance), I feel (for the sake of the thread, the members directly involved, and the membership) it should go private.

Thanks,

KD

I said it once and I'll say it again....I like Walmart. I grew up in a small town in Nebraska where the only place you could shop was the farmer supply store or Kmart which had inferior product too. In fact imo their stuff is worse than walmart. I worked for walmart in Nebraska and then transfered to the store here. I loved working for walmart and then I got sick and missed too many days and got fired. I would have fired me long before they did. I also have worked for the small man here I worked for my dad and I thought it was funny that Mrs. Walton got her oil changed at my dad's place rather than Walmart. Mrs. Walton also gives one of the local daycare centers that has the opportunity to have the best things needed to help the kids. I also worked there and it was a very nice daycare center...it was a happy place to be.

I also have worked for the company that does quality control on the clothes that walmart sells. Their standards are very high as to what they will sell on their shelves. Many a clothes were denied because they failed the tests we put them through. So the argument that their clothes are inferior is false imo. I also worked in the lab that tested the colors to make sure that the black was black all the time. My dad works in the lab that tests toys...their standards for toys are higher than the government standards. Yes the toys will break but all toys break. My dad's job it break them and see what happens and then report it to walmart. There was a lady who bought those letters and numbers you put on the fridge for your little ones and one didn't have a magnet so she returned it....they pulled samples from a number of stores and found that some didn't have the magnets well guess who has to remake their product?

I guess if you don't know what goes on in the background for sure don't knock it. I know that there has been a lot of specials on Walmart and they don't tell the whole truth. No one tells the whole truth and we will believe what we want to believe but don't trash someone else's thoughts just because they don't believe what you believe.

I see the good in them and choose to believe that I like the company and plan to work for the home office when I get out of school.

Jbug

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Replying to no one in particular. I just happen to be adding on to the bottom of the thread.

If people want to shop at Wal-Mart, more power to them. If people's excuses are that they don't have a choice, more power to them. If people wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for Wal-Mart, more power to them. If poor people would be even poorer if they didn't shop there, more power to them.

1. I don't want to shop there.
2. I have a choice and I freely exercise that right to not shop there. I refuse to buy into the mindset that they are now and will be soon the only place to frequent. Yes, if we let them get away with it, they will. Call me a rebel if you will, but I'm going to rally against it.
3. I don't need Wal-Mart to supply me with a job, not unless they start taking over clinics and hospitals in the next 20 years.
4. I have the power to spend my money more frugally in other areas in order to not have to shop at mega super conglomerate centers because they have the lowest prices.

i have very little money and i'm able to make do by doing the same thing, shirley. i'm casting no blame here, just trying to help present how it works for some.........

((( everyone))))

I like the saying you said your grandma use to say.
I need to remember that saying, I'm sure I'll be using it a lot.
Take care now,
DE