I will be blooging more...

I have to say that I stand behind Myself on this one. She has the ultimate point that no one has been able to dispute; She has done nothing that others haven't done before. She should not be crucified for it. Just to make myself clear, I stand with Myself on this one...

Thanks. Got your pm and pm on its way back atcha.

I am confused... ummmm what think i understand is.. myself is relating to posts on PC and talking about them in her blog. I don't have to worry that my posts would be in myself's blogs because i seldom have much to say.. .. But for others, I would think if they do not want their posts mentioned in a personal blog, that should be honored. And those who don't care.. no biggie...That is my honest to goodness humble opinion ,,,

i had and have a blog and never have i taken something from someone else's posts and used it..........so, don't lump me into it....

how many here have used other poster's words/stories in their blogs?

I don't have a blog...But I can see why talking about posts of interests one might add to one's blog,

I think if a person's personal story was to be included in a blog, they should ask permission first...

i can see how this can be a touchy topic tho.....

I don't see in anyway that myself meant any harm. I have not read her blog, but I have followed a link she posted. I did not read a lot, but am sure she has lots of helpful info for those who are DID

I just wanted to add that I am sorry that folks are giving "myself" such a hard time. She means well and has never tried to hurt anyone.. and yet I have seen a few "not so nice" posts directed at her.... I am glad she still sticks around Psych Central...

Thanks and Im going no where.

Im here to stay. My decision to start using my blog to hold my replys came about because people refused to use the ignore icon and dispite my (and the moderators and the administrators too ) pointing the ignore icon out and how to use it and also that I was posting from MY own experiences and no one elses People continued to subject themselves to being triggered needlessly dispite the sites tools and advice on how totake care of themselves so I had no choice but to remove my posts from being visable without the poster CHOOSING to read my posts and threads.

Maybe someday when I can be sure that people are going to use the tools and advice the site has set up for reading triggering material I will bring my replys back to the community boards but until then this is the only solution that has not been tried.

Now my posts will not be readily visable unless people CHOOSE to read them by clicking on the links.

If anyone has a better solution that will enable those that ask for, want and need to read about my experences, opinions and information about DID to have access to it and enable those that are triggered by this not to see it and enable those that refuse to use the ignore icon and choose to read my posts knowing full well they are triggered by it to take responsibility for their own behavior and being triggered instead of placing their choice to be triggered upon me and the moderators and administrators I am open to suggestions -

By my moving my replys to my blog -

those that want my advice, experiences, and information have it.

My popsts are not right in the face of th ose that my experiences, information and so on triggers

and those that choose to read my posts dispite they already know my materail and already know that they get triggered, don't agree, don't like and dont fit with what I have experienced are now resposible for triggering themselves instead of blaming the poster.

We have tried pointing out and explaining how to use the ignore icon

we have tried adding triggers and warning

and we have tried editing and from time to time removing posts

anyone else know of something that has not been done besides moving my replys to my blog?

what would you do if YOU were posting from YOUR OWN experiences and knowledge and research and all tools -

trigger icons,
disclaimers by you and the moderators and administrators that YOU are talking from YOUR OWN experiences, and if your experences are not what the reader has expereinced that is ok.
Trigger warnings within the posts put there by the poster and moderators and administrators
and the ignore icon has been pointed out and explained repeatedly by many members of the vommunity, you and the administrator and moderators.

were exhausted by you and the moderators and administrators?

Since this is a problem with my posts I was the one that came up with the solution that has not yet tried but hey Im open to suggestions I don't like having to put my replys under the cover of a blog link just because people continue to not use the sites tools and take care of themselves.

But I also don't want to keep seeing people needlessly triggered because my posts are visable. I care alot for everyone here and the bottom line is this community problem has been ongoing now for two years and if my putting my replys in my blog will put an end to those accidentally being triggered and so people have to take responsibilty for their being triggered by CHOOSING to open the link and read what they know triggers them, then I will do it.

I am sorry that it has come down to this but we - the moderators and administrators and myself have tried all that we can think of.

I cant understand the correlation between offering support and suggesting people ignore you. Im bamboozeled.

If i had to continually suggest that people ignore me and also decide to post on a blog instead of the board i would wonder what my role was in the community. Im confused. Im not having a go at you myself, im really not, but it just feels like there is a contradiction running through all this.

Myself, it isn't clear to me whether you are agreeing to respect the requests of members who do not want their posts (full or in summary), subject lines, or names included in your blog.

Thanks,
LMo
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I agree LM0. I haven't got acknowledgement of my request.

People can link, they can read, the boards are public, it's YOU'RE experience, YOU'RE opinions, OUR fault we read...I get all that myself.

So I guess because I never requested an answer I will now rephrase my question.

I would like to request that you not use my personal, inner most concerns and issues that I bring to PsychCentral, a website for support for people suffering with mental illness, to your personal blog.

There are no rules here, just etiquette. I'm asking strictly as a personal favor, member to member.

Will you or will you not do that?

What Petunia said.... All though you already mentioned that you cannot take other's fears into account.

You are trying to justify yourself for doing something wrong by saying that other people do wrong things to??? So I can justify murder by saying others have done it, I'm just being upfront about it???

You runaway from the question of respecting other members, and by your silence I get an answer.

Having been "survailled" by an internet lurker in my past, I am uncomfortable with the idea of a personal blog which discusses members' issues here. We come here feeling like we are in a safe community.

She is one tough cookie!



(Nothing intended by the last emoticon - I just seized upon a chance to finally use it...)

Truthfully? I feel this is a losing battle for all of us. I believe she is well within her rights to use whatever she sees fit on her own personal blog whether we like it or not.

Maybe we could all try trusting her a little to use discretion and compassion should she decide to use all or part of someone's post.

I think the only horrifying issue for me now, is if myself used a Personal Message I sent to her and displayed that. I would feel very much betrayed...

Again, I think I just have to learn to trust her judgement - we all do. We don't really have much choice, now do we? We, like she has stated, have made a choice to put all this "stuff" out there.

So I'm gonna step up and take responsibility for my part and accept what is. By the way, have you all noticed how many annonymous visitors we have at any given time (a point I believe she has already stated)? Now that makes me nervous. At least members can be kept track of. Anons, if they choose to "use" our writings, cannot.

I''ll let y'all know how I do on this 'cause radical acceptance is not really one of my strong points!

Anyway, this is off my favourite thread list now. For me, this case is closed.

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I think the only horrifying issue for me now, is if myself used a Personal Message I sent to her and displayed that. I would feel very much betrayed...

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No, this won't happen. That would be a clear infraction of the rules

Yes, we've had the discussion here before about anonymous visitors. Some members stated, in that long discussion, that they simply prefer not to be signed in under their user name, but it also makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps, this isn't such a safe site, and one should restrict posts to the generic, "HI, how ya doin!"

i have an idea for you, myself!! there is a member on another site that offers an e.mail address for all of those people who wish to avail themselves of his opinions, thoughts and advice.

all you have to do is go to hotmail and set up an e.mail address and you can keep it separate from your personal mail.

you can copy and paste your ideas or come up with them on the spot and voila! everyone is happy!!!!

how about that? it works for that guy....... why wouldn't it work for you?

since i don't start threads here anymore, i'm not so worried about my posts....they are always in context within the thread..(and my self-disclosure is now confined to PMs)..i'm worried about people who start a thread asking for support and suddenly find themselves over in a blog because the blogger found amusement/interest/curiousity in the poster's thoughts and feelings.

and what in the freaking hell is supportive about finding your pain in a blog that belongs to someone that you've supported and posted along side of?????????????????????????

it is the concept that i'm "giving a hard time"...... i'd be all over my best friends here if they tried this...... and if you don't believe them, PM some of them and ask them.....

please just answer my questions if you can......i understand your concept......i want to know if you understand mine. pat

you can also go to "about.com" and find a resource for "anonymous" e.mails where a lot of people have consumer information sent to them. you have a username and such and but it can never get into your personal mail........

Now I am even more "confused" over the anonymous folks mentioned. I have never paid much attention to the anonymous folks reading here. Thinking now, maybe I should be more concerned....

Maybe DocJohn should step in and help resolve these issues. There are way too many members unhappy and I fear they will stop posting because they would no longer feel safe expressing their inner most thoughts and experiences. Not only learning and growing but "safety" is most important to members here.

my post about "anonymous" e.mails was for myself. i hope that i didn't add to your confusion.......xoxoxo pat

Umm well I am easy to confused lately. But why would you send anonymous emails to yourself?? Sometimes I think "confusion" is my middle name.. Thinks I am going to go over and play with the carve the pumpkin thread

And exactly my point people have already been comming here to the community boards reading and using our information that has been put on the PUBLIC boards that each person has chosen to put there themselves.

I am not the one that will be the result of people coming here because of what they read in my blog -

outsiders are ALREADY coming here, copying pasting and otherwise using what is placed upon the public bourds volluntarily by each member here.

If you don't what your posts and threads to be copied and pasted and others letting their opinions about what you post be known then you should not be putting that information out here on the public boards.

Regardless of who it is and the topic being discuss putting things on public message boards means you are ok with what you are posting and that others no matter who those others are, are going to be seeing, using and forming opinions about what you post on public message boards regardless of if you know they are doing it or not.

Its already been happening from the first post that anyone puts on the public boards they are volluntarily dishing up their posts to be viewed and used by all regardless of knowing about it.

The only differnece in what I am doing is that I have flat out said this is what I have decided to do.

No one in the past year has had a problem with the fact that I have been doing this all along in my blog when they have been reading my blog. But yet now that I have disclosed that I have been doing this and am going to continue doing this and doing more of it people are now upset.

sorry to seem cold here but the bottom line is I am not doing anything different with my blog that I have not already been doing for the past year except that I now am going to be placing links to my blog here on the boards so that people can just follow my links from the community boards back to my blog.

As for each person telling me "yes reply to me" and "no don't reply to me" -

That is not how support groups work. In real life when in a support group do you not participate in a conversation just because one member says don't talk to me?

No you partake in the conversation for yourself and the other members of the support group and those that don't want you to talk to them can space off, doodle in their notebooks or whatever other things they can that will prevent them from listening to the person talking for the benefit of others in the group and themselves.

The same with on line -

No one has been forced to post what they are posting and EVERYONE is allowed to participate in public conversations. And that include quoting a persons post or reply.

There are tools here that enable those who don't want to listen to the part of the conversation that they do not want to partake in. And no one is forcing anyone to post anything they don't want others to read and use.

If I limit myself to only replying to those topics and people that others in the community deem acceptable that is not being a support group.

That is being a dictatorship of a few members preventing the one member from expressing themselves and partaking in the conversation and preventing others from gaining the support and information that they may need.

Now Im sorry that this issue with people being upset and triggered by my posts have come to the point where I now have to put my posts invisible to only those that click on the links that will take them to the corresponding post that contains my experiences and so on concerning the topics being discussed.

No one is being forced to click on the links and no one is forced to post things that they don't want others to have available to them to read and use as they see fit.

Its PUBLIC meswsage boards open to EVERYONE including nonmembers. If you don't want members and non members to read and gain knowledge and form opinions from what you are posting that is your decision

AND you have control YOUR decision by what you volluntarily place on the public message boards NOT by saying here you go I want this on the public boards but I don't want anyone to read, use and form opinions about what I have posted.

PUBLIC message boards don't work that way. If you don't want others using and forming opinions to help themselves and others then that information should not be volluntarily posted by you.

If there is anything that you don't want members and nonmenbers to know about and use then don't put it on the public boards for the PUBLIC message boards are open to members and non members.

I will not be writing names but have been given administrative permission to continue summarizing and starting to post subject lines with in my blog.

I have explained my side of this as much as I can so I will no longer be responding to those that want me to change my decision back to publically posting my information instead of keeping my replys under the cover of a link and or problems of others have VOLLUNTARILY put posts on the PUBLIC boards being viewed, used and opinions formed of since they began posting here at psych central but don't want their VOLLUNTARILY placed posts to be viewed used and so on.

If you don't want to see my replys then don't click on my links.

If you don't want nonmembers to view and use your personal experiences then don't put them on the public boards.

I will from time to time bump this thread to the top because the first post is a notification of how to locate my blog and this thread contains links so that others here can just click on the links to get to my blog.

But like AlteredStates has pointed out I have made my choice.

And as I have pointed out my choice was made because as previously posted dispite my and the administrators and moderators efforts of having tools available and supplying advice that should have taken care of this issue over my posting MY experiences and information have been disregarded and not used.

Again I am sorry that this issue has come to this point. If anything comes out of this I hope at the least people will start using the tools and advice given to them to take care of themselves so that they are no longer needlessly triggered by other peoples posts and threads. I may be the first person that has publically posted this idea of taking replys to the blogs and supplying the community with links to those replys but that does not mean that others members having this same problem won't end up left with this as their only option and begin to use this option themselves.

This site has options but they cant make a member use those options to take care of themselves. But those subjected to those that refuse to use those options now have an option available to them so that they are no longer subjected to those not taking care of themselves by using the sites self care options.

The choice is yours - use self care options or blog replys will exist for the self care of those giving the replys.

Take care.

Maybe someday I will be able to freely post MY experiences and information back on the public boards without having to add the cover of a blog link because others have learned to use the sites tools and advice offered them so that they will not be triggered and or don't have to read MY experiences.

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Actually, myself, I just want to say that we do NOT think that all other possibilities have been exhausted. But, if you want to focus on your blog rather than posting within PC forums, then that's fine.

It would be considerate of you, as a member, to respect the multiple requests of your fellow members who do not want any part of their posts replicated in your blog. It's a social courtesy and contributes to the supportive tone of our community.

Thank you to everyone who contributed their thoughts to this thread, which I will now lock.