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Hi again-

This here is just to keep the subject in view.
So as i've said, behavioral dependence is a drive. It is associated with reproduction. Look me up. (name search here)

Now then, for eons the human race got along and gets along perfectly SNAFU'd w/o any recourse to the concept that behavioral dependence is a natural and healthy state which operates in the following manner.
The primary drive expression by the neonate elicits the secondary expression of the drive from the parent.
Instead of regarding it as natural, dependence is too often regarded in the same aspect as "Man who is born of sin."
This results from -
-the basic tensions of dependence drive,
- the tensions resulting from interaction with the other components of reproductive drive, competition (socialization as competitive sexual selection in H.) eroticism and reproduction.
Although society functions w/o considering this, a scientific evaluation of human behavior can not be complete w/o addressing the issue.

See?? I told you! "Man wants sex!!"

Yes, Uri, there IS a certain amount of dependence that is healthy between humans and especially between sexual partners. For ME, though, healthy sex can only be achieved within the bounds of matrimony. There are cases where people have lived together for long periods of time and have that same commitment.

I know this isn't complete by any means. But that's all I can muster up at this time.

FROM THE LION'S MOUTH... my husband. I'm typing what he's dictating.

"What do men want? To quote the well-known intellect, Jeff Foxworthy, 'Men want a cold beer and to see something naked.' If you stop and think about it, the primary drive in nature is REPRODUCTION. We are a high form 'animal' but still operate on that basic emperative; reproduction. A male lion taking over a pride from an older lion has three years to establish his bloodline. He will, therefore, kill any and all young offspring of 'the old guy.' This brings those females back into heat so he can breed them and establish his own bloodline.

For males of whatever species you want to talk about, reproduction (sex) is a primary driver. Therefore, 'I want a cold beer and to see something naked.' "

Whoever feels the need to argue these points, REMEMBER, it was JERRY that said it, not Me!

Hi uri Glad to see your back.

Well, Uri?? What have you got to say to another man's point of view?? The post is the second one under my name. As it says, I was typing what my husband was dictating.

Hmm? I don't know if that last one was just impatience. I only show at best twice a week.

Try and catch this now, most of this is about evolution.

Evolution occurs to an entire population, over time through generations, not to an individual. Although, as Darwin observed, the individual is the agent of evolutionary change.

The individual is the special case, the population is the general case. Mixing the two produces equivocation. This is a dilemma but there are approaches to dealing with the dilemma.
The real point is that dependence, behavioral dependence, not the absolute physical dependence of the fetus for instance, is a drive. As such, it is subject to the visicitudes of drives.
But also, it is evolutionarily influential in a sense analogous with the influence of competitive sexual selection, as noted by Darwin.
I spent a long time trying to say that the basically reproductive functions of sexuality were distinct from dependence drive but then suddenly said to myself:
"Numbskull, dependence is a style of reproduction."
Therefore, it is an element of the sexual drive.
--Mate selection, competitive sexual selection--
--Eros--
--Reproduction--
--Dependence--

There goes the bell, gotta close now.

Hmm? I don't know if that last one was just impatience. I only show at best twice a week.

No, I was just bumping the thread back up so you would see it.

Like I said before, my second post to this thread was just to ask you if you had a response for my husband. I'll let him read it tonight when he gets home from work.

BTW... I don't know exactly what to make of your statement... "Try and catch this now," but I don't think I like it. Feel talked down to.

Instead of using your seven letter words....how about just coming out saying it ...instead of coming across as though you are preaching in a church?

My husband said the same thing!

Sometimes wanting a cold beer and to see something naked has nothing to do with wanting to reproduce

Uri..
Evolution..we were implanted and crossbred with aliens.
You should know that!
Patty

Speak for yourself seeker1950

I know that we humans were crossbred from smurfs to lizards........and eventually into humans!

Mark Twain said;
"You should not refer to yourself as we unless you have a tape worm."
The tapeworm was once a much more complex species. So at least there is one vote for devolution, or is that two votes?

Now to that BTW, I'm not talking down to anybody.
Now catch this comes about because so much of the time people are trying to catch something else.
There's always a catch, isn't there?
Go ahead and do a name search for a month or two back and you can see more of the same. URIIADDIVME

hi uri....nice to see you around.....