Mental Health Stigma Discussion

I don't know if the following post will answer you, but it's my cold attempt at analyzing how the world works and why things are as they are. So it may be against feelings, so proceed with caution.

This is a problem I've been struggling with, too.
To aid that, I attempt to draw a scheme as to how social constructs are.
In the universal sense, there are rulers of a set of land who deal with the real world, and people along the way who have to make it happen for the ruler.
To keep the people below satisfied, they have to be teased with stimulants such as sweet food, video games, sex, what not. So long as they do what needs to be done.
Then come those that for some reason don't do as "needed to be done" so well, for whatever reasons. They are accused and eventually used as puppets, such as through teasing, finger-pointing, laughing at. They use other people to cope with reality, at the price of the victims' wellbeing and belonging.

Well, let's fast-forward quite a bit, since we're no longer in tribal settings even though "scientific" sources try to encourage the idea that we are like tribes.
There are two choices in life - to work hard or to be laid back. Some people are laid back because they are comfortable in their environment. Not a bad thing, it's what we all desire to a certain degree. On the other hand, we want to work hard so we can move along with the wagon, because it waits for no one.

How this all relates to the case you talked about?
Some people stand out for some reasons, including myself. I have a diagnosis of HF-ASD. It's made up, nothing more. But to get an answer of "Yes, we know that and we understand" makes you feel more belonging.

Sometimes I wonder what's the point of keeping the wagon going? And the answer is we're millions up to billions of valuable people in the world who at minimum need basic care. It's quite a burden for leaders, entertaining to think of it that way.
But as always, there is the continuum effect, where what was once abnormal is now normal, and could also be vice versa.
And with that, the fact that the wagon goes just because of us being animals, makes me see things for how they are, and as usual, we are eventually going nowhere

I think I can safely say, that mental health stigma (or at least a lot of it) is caused by the media- and especially the news. not just the news, but these stories of people with apparent mental illnesses shooting people etc, does not give a good impression

it's just so easy to say... well, this person shot these people because he has this mental health condition- makes us all look really dangerous

then the other bit comes from the fact it's invisible

you can't see it, and a lot of people don't want to know.. it's like you tell them and they are like, yeah, yeah, sure, you don't feel like that... you look fine.

I mentioned it in another thread, but I'll mention it here. people just don't have the psympathy for it, because they don't see it.. it's not like cancer or anything like that.

I remember one time someone said to me, for someone who's thinking about suicide, you look pretty happy about it, and before I had the chance to explain that suicidal people are happy once they've realised it's what they want (fact, terry pratchett said so in the programme choosing to die), they laughed and shrugged it all off

This is absolutely true. Once the person has decided they are doing the act they become peaceful and calm because they know their pain is going to end. I just told that to my ex-T.

have you seen the programme I mentioned?

it's a really good insight if you're in a good place to watch it

Can you link that?

yeah sure.

I do not remember if I repeated what I’m going to say but repitition won’t harm.
In order to understand stigma we need to understand the origin of the mental health field.
From intel I gathered overtime, the field came to light in an attempt of order restoration on an overall scale. The mental health field is a globalist occupation on the entire human race, viewing humanity as a race, a species.
This is the only reason I have compassion for the mental health field - that its idea is to restore order.
However, just as there is health, there HAS to be a shield. And in emergency cases, a sword.
You can’t keep fixing legs when people outside seek to break them for survival
You can’t cope with the world alone. You have to do this together

Back to focus on the main topic - the stigma exists because the mental health field captures people who show signs of defined dysfunction, yet that definition has entered so deeply into humanity it had turned into fact
And that is the problem of the mental health field - its idea is not health, but restoration of order in a society where a religious system has been banished

This topic is hard to put a focus on, because it occupies many other aspects in life - power, unity, meaning, etc
Power - because of the idea of stigma, and “mental illness sign of weakness” acclaims
Unity - because of isolation of problems into the individual - that’s how therapy works, by focusing on the individual client and finding his “problems”
Meaning - what does it mean about an individual and society when people end up being mentally weak