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PS I know that there are some good professionals.. even in this country... who I have not had the pleasure of meeting.
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Close relative of mine (won’t say for anonymity reasons) lives in UK and saw a therapist on three different occasions, different therapists for different reasons, all through NHS, and she is pleased with all of them. The only downside is that there is alwars some type of time limit. It worked for her as she needed it for shorter duration of time but it worked for her. I could see how that could be a problem though
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I used to think it was impossible to live past 30.
The sad truth is that I only met one mentally ill person that lived an average life span. None of the others have. Part from anything directly self inflicted, that goes for death by other causes as well. Oldest friend I had was 71, most don't seem to make it much past 60. I'm not saying this to be mean to anyone, it just seems a fact just a few of us live to be really old. __________________ |
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With regard to Jimi's comment on life expectancy, I have met plenty of people with mental health concerns who lived into their 70s, 80s, and 90s. I think it is important to share messages of hope with folks who are struggling. Hope is very good for our health: mental, physical, and spiritual.
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For myself (and possibly some others) it's a fairly depressing thought in and of itself to be told that I will not live a long life simply because I live with mental health issues. That's an opinion; not a fact. I also don't appreciate generalizations about people living with mental health concerns. We are each just as unique as everyone else on the planet. Personally, I don't see humanity as divided into "normal" people and "mentally ill" people. We all have our strengths and our challenges. We reside along a continuum of wellness...our place on the continuum shifts throughout our lifetime with different challenges and successes...anxieties and hopes...sorrows and joys. For example, every human regardless of their prior history will wrestle at some point with awareness of their mortality. Everyone will lose someone they love and encounter the deep pain of grief. Though I do accept that for some people, the prospect of a short life could present like a dream or a huge relief. Peace to all Last edited by Anonymous44076; Mar 16, 2019 at 09:06 PM.. |
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Yes. Looks like she might be receiving one from herself in eight more years too. God bless her soul.
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@raging vortex:
I believe there are countries that are pro euthanasia but you need to have very good grounds to make that step. I read in the news fairly recently that a chronically alcoholic man ended his journey this way. But choosing a cut off date - and I appreciate where you're coming from raging vortex - I doubt would ever be supported by law in a any country. If I may say so, it does sound as if your main concern is lack of motivation. Understandable perhaps. But there must be things beyond the four walls of your living space, beyond the supermarket, that you'd like to do? Just ponder that for a few minutes... |
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Is there any statistics on people with mental illness not living long? I doubt this kind of data collection could even exist because ton of people have undiagnosed or wrongly diagnosed mental illness and most of the time you don’t even know who has mental illness unless someone has something so severe that it’s very obvious. And people with mental health issues often don’t want others to know. So I really doubt there is any validity to a statement that people with MI don’t live long
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After seeing what happened to my mother I think perhaps 75 to 81.
I did see on an HBO documentary (I think) where someone committed assisted suicide on camera. It was sad but I do think very peaceful. |
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silver trees, maybe so
I guess the question then is, are you willing to wait that long? how much pain can you take before you've had enough? yes... you could potentially
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do you know what I'm saying? it's okay saying oh, things might get better in X amount of years, but then like I say, the question is can you wait it out that long I think if my life was to take any positive direction, for example, I would need the help of a magic lamp (and even then I'm sure the genie would find it hard) at mote of soul, yes, god bless the queen. the royal family do live to good old ages (I guess it's something in the blood) as for the comment about euthanasia,
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but despite my intense fears of flying and airports, I've not dismissed the idea of it.
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There was a doctor talking about depression one day. He was speaking with a severely depressed patient who said he no longer wished to live. The doctor asked him: "Is it that you no longer wish to be alive or that you no longer wish to feel the way you feel?" I am wondering how you would answer that question, RV. (You don't have to answer that, just an idea) I emphasize that I am not trying to change your mind or negate your truth. I'm just speaking as someone who was so miserable for so many years and recently found a new hope and a new perspective which is a major relief. If I could help someone else find such a relief, I'd gladly do so. Though I respect people's boundaries and individual perspectives. May I ask your belief system, RV? If you end your life, where do you think you'll be going or will you simply cease to exist? |
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"I guess the question then is, are you willing to wait that long?"
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I wouldn’t select a cut off age of 50... but I get where you’re coming from raging vortex I did see the program about
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((((((( SilverTrees )))))))
I too have always tried not to
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I might ask the mods to delete my posts, I don’t think they add anything to the discussion, Hugs to all I’m definitely not looking for advice. (Or “attention” ) Sorry to raging vortex and SilverTrees for any “hijack” I guess the discussion triggered my “snake” - I usually don’t share any of this stuff with anyone __________________ |
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I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:
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