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Old Jul 14, 2008, 07:50 PM
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i was wondering one thing.
i dont know what its technically called... but there are so many people who just..
you know when people select facts to prove a certain point. noone looks at all the facts
ever
and its really pissing me off.
you can make someone look like a total *** if u only pay attention to their negative parts and deny the positive
people have been doing this alot lately... they dont stop and wonder what someone means when they say something
they assume that theyre intention was to hurt.
i dont get it. as a person i do try to take in ALL the facts.
but other people dont and its not fair.
if someone chose to do something... because it will get someones attention.. and by getting their attention they can help someone..
surely its ok. but if that original action was hurtful.. but would be eventually overtaken by the help. is it better than just not helping someone?
selective data handling... its rediculous.
idk.
i dont know what to do.
theres an arising problem.. and i dont know wether i can sort it all out. im convinced that everyone involved is guilty of alot of fact selection and assumption.
and ... dang ... its driving me nuts.
maybe i just dont have the motivation to sort it all out... i mean im used to people waltzing off and leaving me after a while...
so if everything breaks up again and everyone waltzes off in their diff directions, it wont be that weird. altho it will be weird that it wasnt just me being chucked outta the group.
yeah, thats usually what happens. i do something. people select the facts to paint me as the bad guy because its simpler than questioning my actions.
and then they dump me.
oh well
im a useless piece of %#@&#! anyway but thats not my point....
oh damn now im depreciating.
nevermind.
i just cant stand the fact that people choose to be ignorant when they dont have to be... when the understanding will help relationships do well rather than collapse.
boy when i get this onto a post itsa be long.
yeah i wrote this on notepad cuz PC died.
but yeah.
anyway. rant over.
bloody wordpress or whatever it is.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 09:27 PM
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(((selfy))) I think the best thing is to continue to do your best in responding to posts. If you find someone posting negatively, you can always notify the mods and allow them to decide. It's good to take things at face value, whatever a person posts as truth to them... and at times gently mete out a positive direction (that might be different than what she or he asked for?)

Remember, this site has many unwell members; some just aren't able to post positively some days maybe?

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 10:37 PM
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I know what you mean. When a truth becomes a myth people will crucify the one that caused a ripple in a paradigm. *The earth revolves around the sun* *the earth is round* *disease is caused by viruses and bacteria* and any other realities that came crashing down. The earth is flat wasn't believed, it was a truth that was neither questioned nor even on anyones mind. Heres to those that will risk themselves to summon forth a paradigm shift.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 11:18 PM
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Selfy,

I agree, it is far better to ask the questions directly from the person concerned, then to assume or worse yet listen to another person saying things about another that may not be true at all. All that leads to is hurt & misunderstanding

To me honesty is the best policy. If you want to know something about someone, you should just ask that person. Doesn't seem like a tough concept, but I know for some people that may be a problem. They get caught up in listening to others, and then make what they see, fit what they heard from someone else. Being the victim of that is a really tough thing to overcome, but you can overcome it...

Make yourself available. Don't assume things about other people, lead by example. If you don't understand something about something or someone, ask those involved, and remember to ask everyone involved to clarify things.

Maybe you could lead off with something that will let people know that in the future, you too would appreciate the courtesy of a question or two.... Something like.."This may sound bold, but I would really like it if someone would take the time to ask me, before they assume something... I was wondering in this is (true, what you said, what you believe, why you said this, etc.)?" You get the picture fact selection

Keep things out in the open, anytime someone takes you or anyone else aside and talks about another, well that is never a good thing in my book. That is where the misunderstanding comes in.... Secrecy is very rarely a good thing....unless your having a surprise party.

If they insist on keeping things quiet, whether it be here with a PM, or in real life behind close doors.....STOP THEM. Tell the person that you plan on going straight to the people involved to see if what they are saying is 100% true. Tell them you will also tell the people involved exactly who told you the story in the first place. Ask if they still want to continue the story.

Whether they continue the story or not.... Go to the people involved and ask. Bottom line, don't believe everything you hear, and if you don't understand something, or want to clarify something......... Always ask....EVERYONE INVOLVED...

Don't get caught up in gossip, even if you think you are part of the "In-crowd", because you are being "included"..... Don't do it! The people who gossip, or say something and insist on you not telling "so & so", well those are the people who you generally can't trust...nor should you. They are users, they say one thing to you, something else to someone else, etc, and over time, when things get bad and everyone dislikes everyone else, they are the only ones left unscathed. Sad, because they are usually the people who have manipulated the whole situation in the first place. They enjoy, in a very sad way, being the rescuer.

Don't allow yourself to be a victim. Demand honesty. Ask questions of everyone involved, never assume you understand something. If you don't fall into the traps people set, eventually you will become known as a truly trustworthy person. Someone that can be counted on to give an honest answer and someone who will not talk about another, without that person being involved too. Keep things in the open.

Eventually, people will stop talking about others, and you will be the example that led the way.

Maybe if more people did this, their would be less hurt and misunderstanding in the world. Honesty has always been the best policy as far as I am concerned. And I firmly believe that if you live your life like that, that eventually people around you will come around too... At least I hope fact selection

(((Selfy))), I don't know if you were talking about here or in real life, but remember open honesty is always the best policy and don't get involved if you find it will be anything less.

Eventually your good reputation will stand for itself... Just don't get too comfortable and take advantage of it. Always take the high road., always fact selection If you do that, you will always be able to hold your head high and if people leave, well you wouldn't have wanted to be a true friend to them anyway.

Remember people aren't all bad, we just seem like that sometime fact selection

Take care of yourself Selfy, and for what it is worth, nobody has ever said a bad word about you..... So you must be doing something right!
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 02:08 AM
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i don't understand all the fancy talk replies? ... but ya know i care for ya right? you don't deserve to be screwed and i don't screw you.... fact selection fact selection fact selection fact selection
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 02:43 AM
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fact selection v Selfy I can only say simple >> as a friend is in any point in time ,, I rule ME world as this >. Always leave the door open ,, so if a peep wishes safe harborage Greet them with open arms and the warmth and smile that acompanies the compassion that you recognize ,,>>> In You .

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Old Jul 15, 2008, 08:11 AM
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> *disease is caused by viruses and bacteria*

Schizophrenia is caused by a parasite in cat droppings...
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 10:05 AM
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(((((((((((Selfy))))))))))))) I think (((((((((Danialla)))))))))) said it all.
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 11:01 AM
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Confirmation bias.

(seeking out evidence that SUPPORTS your theory rather than seeking out evidence that would falsify it)
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 11:01 AM
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Or alternatively 'cherry picking'

(only referencing data that supports your theory rather than also referencing and dealing with data that seems to disconfirm / problematize your theory)
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 01:02 PM
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Thank you! I've been trying to think of that term for hours! fact selection
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