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Old May 10, 2011, 09:58 AM
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Has anyone read this and/or followed the suggestions? What do you think about it? Have you followed the plan instead of using antidressants and has it worked? Thanks.

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Old Jun 30, 2011, 01:10 PM
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is that the title of the book ?
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Old Jul 02, 2011, 11:59 AM
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It's actually from a Chicago Integrative Health clinic, they have a test/explanation on their site:

http://www.wholehealthchicago.com/28...e-whammy-quiz/

http://www.wholehealthchicago.com/28...triple-whammy/

but I'm not sure it's based on anything other than someone's conjecture of how things work. I'm not thrilled when people find problems with all females, etc.; reminds me too much of 40 years ago when menopause was an "illness" that must be stopped, etc. I don't think people know enough and some companies take advantage of what sounds good to a layman to stir up hype over super foods, vitamins, supplements. I don't think we were "created" flawed or that high maintenance; humans have been around for thousands and thousands of years and have a lot of experience with food and I get instantly suspicious with people who hark back to "cave men" to explain things.

But, I don't think it sounds "dangerous" if you want to spend all that money and try it.

http://www.wholehealthchicago.com/about/
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Old Jul 04, 2011, 07:49 PM
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Perna, I don't understand why you think it costs so much money to follow what the author suggests. Basically, it's vitamin B, fish oil, and walking 20 minutes outside! He suggests more vitamin B (100 mg) than some drs. recommend, but it's kind of basic. He says all 3 will raise the seritonin levels. My T heard him speak (Dr. Edelberg I think is his name) and suggested the book to me. That's when she suggested antidepressants but I decided against them for now. There are many very positive reviews about the book on Amazon. I have the book.
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Old Jul 05, 2011, 11:23 AM
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Yes, lokeluche. The book is: The Triple Whammy Cure by David Edelberg.
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Old Jul 13, 2011, 12:07 PM
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The arrogance of calling his program a "cure", lack of scientific trials, and the lumping of all women together, claiming he has the answer to what ails most of them runs up red flags for me. He's in it for the money, not to help me. If buying and reading his book doesn't work and buying bottles of vitamins you don't need, etc., to him it will be your fault it didn't work, you didn't do it "right". You really need to go to his clinic to get it right, etc. Yes, he advertises his clinic and makes more money through his book and gets his name known, etc. That's his primary aim, not to help "you".

Your doctor is probably trying to help you; discuss with him whether you are low in vitamin B6 (he can measure it you know!) and what this doctor's theories are, etc. Think what it will do "to" you, what it will cost you if you try this and it doesn't "work", how that will make you feel, how likely you will be to try something else, how all the things you have tried in the past may weigh on you and make you feel badly about yourself and your ability to know yourself and how your body works best! The answers to what is "wrong" with you is not wholly out there in some stranger's hand/book.

You are in therapy to get to know yourself better, to understand and like living with yourself. It's not just monetary cost (although buying $13 bottles of unneeded and potentially harmful vitamins ~ taking any single vitamin B alone can be quite harmful; they're never alone in nature and taking one, man-made one can throw off the others just like taking a drug for some problem can cause other problems as "side effects". However, we don't need drugs and we do need vitamins but someone diagnosing your need for either drugs or vitamins from a book is not very ethical, to my thinking).
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Old Jul 13, 2011, 03:15 PM
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I did discuss it with my dr. He didn't see anything wrong with taking fish oil, vitamin B, and walking! The vitamin B recommended in the book IS B complex, anyway. But the fish oil pills bother my stomach, so I'm not doing it anyway. I'd rather take antidepressants, but at this point I'm not doing that either.

The walking is great, though! Vitamin B is good for your heart, anyway so I'm talking that. Did you read the book? I don't like the title, but the information makes sense.
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Old Jul 15, 2011, 01:32 PM
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They do have fish oil pills that allegedly don't bother your stomach but I prefer to go to "Baldwins" restaurant and get their blackened tuna once or twice a week it tastes like filet mignon.

I still remember when I tried cod liver oil (figured if my parents were forced to take it growing up, I could stand it). I remember spitting it all over the mirror in my apartment bathroom and not being able to get it all off (it's "sticky" stuff). It was really vile; I don't know how our parents lived through that, LOL.
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Old Jul 16, 2011, 07:48 PM
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They do have fish oil pills that allegedly don't bother your stomach but I prefer to go to "Baldwins" restaurant and get their blackened tuna once or twice a week it tastes like filet mignon.

I still remember when I tried cod liver oil (figured if my parents were forced to take it growing up, I could stand it). I remember spitting it all over the mirror in my apartment bathroom and not being able to get it all off (it's "sticky" stuff). It was really vile; I don't know how our parents lived through that, LOL.
LOL..just like rubitussin ..the ad..I do not take it .

It sounds a bit simplistic I agree. If there were a miracle cure there would be no T and no depressed people.

Although I agree that our diets can affect our brain and how we feel too. But there is a multitude of stuff that this book does not mention : magnesium/calcium/zinc, iron, vitamin D etc. They all play a part in our system, body and brain.

Exercise yes...difficult to feel down when you are exercising !

I think it is not digging deep enough.

There is the psychological side of it. Women tend to blame themselves a lot more for whatever happened and feel depressed/down etc than men. Women are more prone to think " what did I do wrong ? what is or was wrong with me ?" but men do not operate that way.

I had to smile at the " when menopause was considered a disease"..well am not old enough to know about that but it reminded me of periods being called " the curse".

And good old Freud with his "hysteric women"..and "penis envy"..
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Old Jul 24, 2011, 11:11 PM
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I. But the fish oil pills bother my stomach, so I'm not doing it anyway. I'd rather take antidepressants, but at this point I'm not doing that either.
Some fish oils are better than others. Also you could try purified version - less fishy oil, more EFAs. I use Krill Oil, and I found that less bothersome (plus need to take less for the same effect) Of course depends what's the problem is - mine was just nasty burps.

But if Fish oil is out, you can try substituting hemp seed oil, flax seed oil, or some combo flax+borage+evening primrose for example.

20 min walk outside - if you walk in the morning and sun is not too harsh try not wearing sun glasses, shade your eyes of course, but get at least some un-altered light in. There is some interesting data on natural light and depression.

Also, if this is available, get out onto the DIRT on your walks. Weed a garden if you can get into one, walk in the woods, go lie in the grass (as long as not sprayed with pesticides), with your face next to the earth. Read here:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/66840.php
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Old Aug 01, 2011, 11:16 AM
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That's fascinating, Sunna; I'm out into my garden right away! LOL
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