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Old May 27, 2014, 11:03 AM
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My pitbull has been with us for 3 years. Excellent family dog and very prtective of us ツ even protects the cat. Im a firm believer on its all how you raise them.

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Old May 27, 2014, 01:40 PM
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Not a fan at all. They r naturally aggressive toward other animals or rather anything other than an adult human. Besides all i think when i see one is a dog fighter dog.
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Old May 27, 2014, 03:55 PM
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when i see an aggressive dog i think there might be something wrong with the owner, not the dog.
an energetic dog has more chances to become aggressive. a calm one not so much. the Pit Bull is overrated as aggressive. generally, it is the owners who made him aggressive. i find a chihuahua more aggressive than any other breed. towards both other dogs and humans.
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i find a chihuahua more aggressive than any other breed.
I have had friends with Chihuahuas. The nasty little thigs would chew the snot out of my ankles every time I went to the house. The only thing that kept them from being dangerous was that they couldn't reach any higher than my ankles.
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Old May 29, 2014, 07:35 AM
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17 Pit Bulls That Prove Breed Specific Legislation Doesn't Know What It's Talking About
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Old May 29, 2014, 09:14 AM
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I don't like them, not because I think they are bad dogs, but because they just aren't my type of dog. I prefer herding/shepherd type dogs.
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Old May 29, 2014, 03:45 PM
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ANY dog can bite,attack, or otherwise cause injury. It's just not one breed, it just isn't the pit bull. Pit Bulls are powerful breed, I will give you that. You don't see many attacks on news about breeds because 1.) Many people are uneducated of the breed. They think there dangerous. So if anything happens-bad- it gets report. It's on the news 2.) I'm sorry to say this but, they CAN cause more damage then many dogs. It's the structure of the Breed. You don't see a chihuahua attack because they can't cause much damage. What about labs? People see them as loving, sweet,etc. So there less likely to report that dog

There are incorrect labels on Pit Bulls. Not ever dog labeled as a Pit Bull is a Pit Bull. If it looks like a pit bull, it is a Pit Bull,even if it isn't a Pit Bull that's what the media does.

The media is extremely biased, just not on Pit Bulls, but so many other topics.

Pit bulls just aren't human aggressive because of irresponsible ownership. It's a many things. Yes, irresponsible ownership, bad genetics*, the environment, and other factors. It can just be one reason why, a Pit Bull is human aggressive, but many times it's more then one reason. This just doesn't apply to the Pit Bull, it applies to every breed.

* Unfortunately, people have overbred this dog, haven't cared what traits they were breeding, & just didn't care what they were doing. The dogs are genetically wired wrong, they don't have a stable temperament . It's because of people , not caring,& just breeding carelessly. It's happened other breeds too , sadly.
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Old May 29, 2014, 07:00 PM
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I have friends on FB and also online rescue sites, and, I'm not kidding, the majority of the dogs needing fostering or rescuing are Pit Bull mixes or pure Pit Bulls. Why so many of them? I have a friend who has two preschool children and she rescued a pit bull from a trash dump. They swear it's the sweetest dog.
I wouldn't own one because I doubt my own skill in training such a dog.
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Old May 30, 2014, 01:54 AM
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The media has given this image of the pit bull. Pit bulls are a favorite in dog fighting because of their strength and, when trained, aggressiveness. The a-holes who would train dogs in this way are evil, not the dogs. Judging all of a breed because of the actions by irresponsible owners isn't fair. I've seen some humans who have done absolutely horrendous, vicious, and violent things. If I tell you they were all of one race or group (they weren't, but if I did), should we execute all of that race/group? Those innocent, well-trained and haven't shown violence shouldn't be put down because of the actions of some.

As I said, pit bulls can also be heroes:

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Old May 30, 2014, 02:03 AM
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I've raised an AMISTAFF, or American Staffordshire Terrier for 9 years and she is loyal, fierce and courageous, has never attacked anyone, but she protects me. This breed is beautiful. There is also a breed called bull terrier, evolved by slang usage to be 'pit bull'.
Ignorance has attacked this breed as well, fear and ignorance, misuse of training and breeding. Dogs have instincts and some do attack humans. This is no valid reason to generalize the characteristics of the breed and turn it into a prejudice, stupid prejudice that's it. This breed is the only dog I will ever have, and I would rescue some if I had the land space.
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Old May 30, 2014, 04:47 AM
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The lady didn't even do anything to provoke them. The man couldn't even hold on to them once they start charging. Imagine the trauma . How they treat their owners is not the same as how they treat other people.
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Old May 30, 2014, 05:44 AM
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The lady didn't even do anything to provoke them. The man couldn't even hold on to them once they start charging. Imagine the trauma . How they treat their owners is not the same as how they treat other people.
You aren't going to change any minds. It's the owner's fault... it's the victim's fault... the dog was having a bad day... you can't condemn all the dogs based on the behavior of a few thousand dogs etc etc
I could post a lot more pics like the little girl in my previous post but it wouldn't matter.
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Old May 30, 2014, 05:51 AM
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^ I know. Love is blind...and dangerous because of that sometimes.
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Old May 30, 2014, 08:40 AM
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You aren't going to change any minds. It's the owner's fault... it's the victim's fault... the dog was having a bad day... you can't condemn all the dogs based on the behavior of a few thousand dogs etc etc
I could post a lot more pics like the little girl in my previous post but it wouldn't matter.
I could post a lot more pics like your little girl attacked by other breeds of dog, but I wouldn't sink to your level. Maybe we should outlaw ALL dogs. So MANY of them are known to bite. They have large jaws and sharp teeth and are descendants of wolves! So lets outlaw all dogs.
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Old May 30, 2014, 09:06 AM
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Let's outlaw bathtubs! They kill more then Pit Bulls do.
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Old May 30, 2014, 09:16 AM
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What is the appeal of the pit bull seriously
People that like this breed specifically... what is it that is so special about it?
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Old May 30, 2014, 10:57 AM
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They aren't for everyone, but they have a lot to offer like any other breeds of dogs do. They're cute, they're loving, affectionate, loyal, sturdy and compact (a great quality for service animals).

From the ASPCA
What’s Wrong with Breed-Specific Laws?

BSL carries a host of negative and wholly unintended consequences:

• Dogs go into hiding
Rather than give up their beloved pets, owners of highly regulated or banned breeds often attempt to avoid detection of their “outlaw” dogs by restricting outdoor exercise and socialization and forgoing licensing, microchipping and proper veterinary care, including spay/neuter surgery and essential vaccinations. Such actions have implications both for public safety and the health of these dogs.
• Good owners and dogs are punished
• BSL also causes hardship to responsible owners of entirely friendly, properly supervised and well-socialized dogs who happen to fall within the regulated breed. Although these dog owners have done nothing to endanger the public, they are required to comply with local breed bans and regulations unless they are able to mount successful (and often costly) legal challenges.
• They impart a false sense of security
• Breed-specific laws have a tendency to compromise rather than enhance public safety. When limited animal control resources are used to regulate or ban a certain breed of dog, without regard to behavior, the focus is shifted away from routine, effective enforcement of laws that have the best chance of making our communities safer: dog license laws, leash laws, animal fighting laws, anti-tethering laws, laws facilitating spaying and neutering and laws that require all owners to control their dogs, regardless of breed.
• They may actually encourage ownership by irresponsible people
• If you outlaw a breed, then outlaws are attracted to that breed. Unfortunately some people take advantage of the “outlaw” status of their breed of choice to bolster their own self image as living outside of the rules of mainstream society. Ironically, the rise of Pit Bull ownership among gang members and others in the late 1980’s coincided with the first round of breed-specific legislation.

What’s the Alternative to Breed-Specific Laws?

In the aforementioned study, the CDC noted that many other factors beyond breed may affect a dog’s tendency toward aggression—things such as heredity, sex, early experience, reproductive status, socialization and training. These last two concerns are well-founded, given that:

• More than 70 percent of all dog bite cases involve unneutered male dogs.
• An unneutered male dog is 2.6 times more likely to bite than is a neutered dog.
• A chained or tethered dog is 2.8 times more likely to bite than a dog who is not chained or tethered.
• 97 percent of dogs involved in fatal dog attacks in 2006 were not spayed/neutered:
• 78 percent were maintained not as pets, but rather for guarding, image enhancement, fighting or breeding.
• 84 percent were maintained by reckless owners—these dogs were abused or neglected, not humanely controlled or contained, or allowed to interact with children unsupervised.
Recognizing that the problem of dangerous dogs requires serious attention, the ASPCA seeks effective enforcement of breed-neutral laws that hold dog owners accountable for the actions of their animals.
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I could post a lot more pics like your little girl attacked by other breeds of dog, but I wouldn't sink to your level. Maybe we should outlaw ALL dogs. So MANY of them are known to bite. They have large jaws and sharp teeth and are descendants of wolves! So lets outlaw all dogs.
My level??? And what level is that exactly? You seem to have your own level and you aren't being honest. I don't believe you could post those pics because they don't exist. You're in denial.
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Old May 30, 2014, 07:49 PM
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George, you are using shock tactics by posting a scary/sad photo to try and prove your point, while we are all posting facts, tests, ect. "They don't exist"? of course they do. It's not only Pit Bulls that attack and kill people. However it may seem like that because that's all you hear about on the news, it's what people want to see and therefore all they show. Again, look at the first link I posted here, it has a good bit about the news reporting on Pit Bull attacks.

I don't see how anyone here is not being honest?

Honestly George I think you may be the one in denial. All of us here have posted many facts and such that you seem to completely ignore in favor of saying they "Don't hold up" or someone "Isn't being honest"

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Old May 30, 2014, 10:58 PM
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Let's remember one thing here.....

First it was German Shepards

Then it was Dobermans

Then it was Rottweilers

Now it's Pit Bulls

The problem is that people are not trained on how to handle a dog that is strong and powerful and bred a certain way. It truly is NOT a dogs fault. At least that is my belief. It always comes down to the owner.

A responsible owner reads up and researches everything they can about whatever breed they are interested in. Then they look into training and how best to have control over their pet. It is when the pet's needs are not being met by the owner that troubles occur.

A dog never attacks for no reason whatsoever. There is always a sign that is given, it is up to the owners to understand what those signs are. Sometimes they are very visible, sometimes they are just a small tilt of the head, look in the eye, position of their ears, position of their body or a sound that can alert us to what is about to happen. These things are not breed specific, they are dog specific.

I wouldn't hesitate to own a pitbull, shepard, doberman or rottweiler (which I've had 3 of in the past). As with ANY dog, they are awesome and loveable and funny and fantastic parts of our families. But, as I stated, the responsibility lies with the owners of such strong breeds to make sure folks are safe around them.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Now I'll put my admin hat on. Please folks, let's remember that we may not all agree and we all have our own thoughts, ideas, experiences that create our beliefs. Let's be respectful of each other in our disagreements please.

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Old May 31, 2014, 12:05 AM
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This isn't "Love is blind" nonsense. Pit bulls aren't a bad breed. People who don't look at the overall picture, people who collect every news report that further cements their views without looking at unbiased and outside studies and facts, all of that is ignorance.
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Old May 31, 2014, 12:16 AM
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Maybe those of you on the pit bulls side don't notice it but it sound as if you're saying the pit bull can do no wrong and all the news about it are all made up and fictional. You turn a blind eye on all the evidence that upsets and continue to to attack people that bring it up. The picture he posted is a fact along with the video I've linked to and all the pictures and videos you can find out there, those incident did happen. All dogs can attack but the pit bull can easily cause disfiguring damage to the innocent victims because of it's jaw strength and they attack even when unprovoked.

People have the right to stand up for their own safety. It is an unnecessary risk for others to trust someone to be a good owner to such an unpredictable and powerful dog especially when reckless owners aren't even going to be responsible for any damage their dogs do.
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Old May 31, 2014, 12:29 AM
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It's a dog. It can do wrong, if it's not trained to do right. Nobody said the news reports are fictional. But you're closed-minded to everything and believe the news gives you an accurate depiction of the whole world. If you only focus on the news, you'd think most girls who go missing are white and blonde. They don't mention most cases of other races. It's the same with pit bulls. There are lots of stories that don't make the papers and the TV news.

Yes, pit bulls are strong and can do terrible damage. So can bodybuilders. If you don't raise your child (who might grow up to be a bodybuilder) to be respectful and in control of himself, he could do extensive damage, too. Pit bulls are not to blame when they attack, that's right. It's the owner's responsibility, so it's the owner's fault. An animal doesn't know right from wrong; that's why you teach them to follow certain behaviors and orders. Those of you blaming pit bulls are acting on ignorance. You see all the reports and don't look beyond your TVs and the links that catch your eye. This person forwards a news report about a pit bull biting, you pass it on, and so it goes. You don't see the many other dog attacks that don't shock as much.
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Facts? I haven't seen any facts on the pro side. Someone said dogbite.org is biased. Well what do you expect? It's a dog bite victims' group. And which dog is responsible for the great majority of maimed and dead children? It isn't poodles. It should be obvious why there aren't "Chihuahua mauls baby" Or "old lady killed by pack of Shitzus" stories on the news. If it happened it would be news. If all the pit attacks weren't happening then people wouldn't be seeing it on the news am I right? You're apologists. Every thing you've said is always used by every apologist. That's fine. The question was what do you think of Pit Bulls. I told you what I think It doesn't matter if you blame the owners.
And I'm still trying to understand the "no dog attacks without a reason" statement. What possible reason could a 9 month old baby in a crib give a dog to jump inside the crib and tear the baby to pieces? The baby cried too loud?
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