[Teacake]

Our open society Is being closed. When they seal the borders we are done for. They wont kill us. We will just live like Latín Americans or Iraqis under Saddam. Maybe we will like it. Their music Is better.

We are being traumatised on purpose. Terrorterrorterror. Omgheadacarves. Omgteenagers. Omgmeninfatigues. Omgomgomg.

Dont expect to receive adequate information or treatment. Get outside the box. Do your own research. Googling current disinformation isnt research. Look to print sources and look to older sources. Learn physiology of trauma. Learn mythology of trauma. Learn meditation but be wary of adopting the precepts of politically powerless people, unless you need to. Learn what you can about your own nature and your own body. You may be on your own if you want recovery and not sedation and palliative care.

Its good to know reality. It will break your heart but spare your mind.

I am unusually smart and strong and I dont know if I am going to make it. Younger and better resourced people may have a real chance. Just know you are probably on your own.

[Notoriousglo]

Originally Posted by Teacake

Our open society Is being closed. When they seal the borders we are done for. They wont kill us. We will just live like Latín Americans or Iraqis under Saddam. Maybe we will like it. Their music Is better.

We are being traumatised on purpose. Terrorterrorterror. Omgheadacarves. Omgteenagers. Omgmeninfatigues. Omgomgomg.

Dont expect to receive adequate information or treatment. Get outside the box. Do your own research. Googling current disinformation isnt research. Look to print sources and look to older sources. Learn physiology of trauma. Learn mythology of trauma. Learn meditation but be wary of adopting the precepts of politically powerless people, unless you need to. Learn what you can about your own nature and your own body. You may be on your own if you want recovery and not sedation and palliative care.

Its good to know reality. It will break your heart but spare your mind.

I am unusually smart and strong and I dont know if I am going to make it. Younger and better resourced people may have a real chance. Just know you are probably on your own.

agreed...except I don't know if I'm unusually smart. but i hate stupid people for sure.

[Teacake]

Originally Posted by euphy

agreed...except I don't know if I'm unusually smart. but i hate stupid people for sure.

Then dont look at them. All year my brain has played this trick on me: I want to smoke and cant find a Match. I look and look with a cigarette (a rollie of course, organic and organic hemp) hanging out my mouth. No Match. I drop the cigarette and sigh. There on a White paper Is a bright blue matchbook. Same thing happens with the coffee, or whatever.

Its my mind telling me, you dont have to see whats before your eyes.

I did quit smoking again. I bet I can stop seeing stupid people.

[ChipperMonkey]

Are you suffering from paranoia?

[TheWell]

Our open society Is being closed. When they seal the borders we are done for. They wont kill us. We will just live like Latín Americans or Iraqis under Saddam. Maybe we will like it. Their music Is better.

I don't understand your post at all. You say that PTSD isn't curable because they are sealing the borders?
The countries you mention do not have rights like we have in the U.S. They don't have health care like we do in the U.S. Hussein was a tyrant who made unilateral decisions about his country. That can't happen here because of the system of checks and balances in our government.

I guess I believe that PTSD is curable. I believe that I can be cured if I work hard. I don't think it's related to our government at all.

[MotownJohnny]

Originally Posted by TheWell

I guess I believe that PTSD is curable. I believe that I can be cured if I work hard.

I don't know whether or not it is curable, but I would love to believe that is possible. It would be nice if people who have successfully managed it could post their experiences to give us hope. The hard work part, absolutely - nothing much in life is free, if you want it bad enough you will do what it takes.

I have to hold out hope for myself at this time that the trauma therapist I just started seeing will help me. Maybe my problem over the last two years was first not correctly identifying the problem, and then not finding a specialist trained to deal with it. I never even knew of trauma therapy until maybe a year ago when I joined PC.

I'll not mince words, I have been very down lately, thinking about death and suicide and "poor me"-ing a lot. I know that gets me nowhere fast. I have to maintain hope.

So, thank you, The Well, just for stating your belief. I want to believe it, too, because I have to think my life has more meaning than it has had to date.

[TheWell]

((((MotownJohnny))))

It has meaning. I work towards that belief. Your life matters. You will succeed. You will feel better. I have faith. I believe a lot of my growth has been because of the work I have done with my mental health team. I believe that your trauma therapist can help you.

[MotownJohnny]

I hope so, and I think so - I felt really comfortable with him right away, both professionally and personally.

[Hellion]

Based on this I doubt there is a cure for mine, not sure I have it in me to try really hard to be cured...bla.

[SkyWhite]

There's no cure, but I'm finding out there are ways of managing it.
According to my pdoc, if it began at a very young age (like me) the abuse can damage the brain. The only way to deal with it is learning to manage it.

I wish it would all stop and hope it doesn't drive me insane. I feel like giving up sometimes too.

I'm starting to hear different stories about PTSD, I'm not even sure what to believe about it anymore.

[here today]

I usually post in Personality Place. I believe that PD’s are “curable”. I believe that mine is . . . close to being cured. I’ve been diagnosed with PDNOS and DDNOS. My trauma specialist therapist said that she would have diagnosed me with C-PTSD if it had been available in the DSM at the time.

So . . . in my experience, having re-experienced and connected with the traumatic emotions which had been disconnected/dissociated . . . it’s really, really painful and I’m not sure that I would have proceeded if I had known how horrible it would be but what were my options?. . . and I think and feel like I’m getting OK now. I’m 67, been in and out of therapy for 50 years, glad there are some trauma therapists now who know what to do to “fix” things (sometimes).

(((Teacake))) I don’t usually do hugs. But I hear you . . .

[Teacake]

Originally Posted by ChipperMonkey

Are you suffering from paranoia?

No. I am suffering from a rare affliction that has been almost eradicated among .Americans. Its self induced. I've used to call it "a liberal education". Even a little education is a dangerous thing.

[Teacake]

Originally Posted by Hellion

Based on this I doubt there is a cure for mine, not sure I have it in me to try really hard to be cured...bla.

You are in a state that has a lot of somatic experiencing therapists and you are young. You have a chance. Get busy. While you dont have to work to support yourself, put your energy into learning the alternative methods to recover.

[Teacake]

Originally Posted by Newfie girl

I'm starting to hear different stories about PTSD, I'm not even sure what to believe about it anymore.

When people talk about PTSD they can be referring to

1. Personality disorders, which are caused by early childhood trauma which interferes with attachments and interferes with childhood development.

2. Post traumatic stress, which is when a healthy person gets stuck in a physiological state of arousal that is normal, natural and healthy for threat to life, but injurious to the body-mind when it is prolonged.

There are stages of post traumatic stress. The body cant maintain high arousal forever. It has to come down. If it can discharge Its high arousal it can come down naturally. If it cant discharge it Naturally it does Its homeostasis thing to protect itself as it buena out Its glands through overuse.

People seem to prefer that childhood injury be called ptsd instead of personality disorder because some uneducated insensitive folks have a shif attitude toward borderline and narcissism and the others. Personality disorders CAN be cured/healed with patience and good therapy. They are not shameful conditions. Probably most of our beloved poets and artists and entertainers and historical figures had them and toughed out the symptoms or made their families suffer. The Lincolns and Kennedys were dysfunctional families. Now we can all heal those wounds and evolve so new generations arent burdened like we were.

The only reason I get shrill about ptsd not being c-ptsd is it confuses treatment. People go into the wrong treatment and dont get better.

[gubernova]

Mental illnesses are not cured, they're managed. It's a tough life, but we're all out there struggling with what is an invisible illness. If you lose a leg it doesn't grow back but you adjust to life without it and people can see your struggle. Unfortunately with mental illness, people will never react the same, and we will struggle in silence managing a devastating illness.

Originally Posted by Teacake

People seem to prefer that childhood injury be called ptsd instead of personality disorder because some uneducated insensitive folks have a shif attitude toward borderline and narcissism r.

This is what im talking about teacake, you've just added more that I've never heard of, personality disorders from childhood trauma?

[Hellion]

Originally Posted by Teacake

You are in a state that has a lot of somatic experiencing therapists and you are young. You have a chance. Get busy. While you dont have to work to support yourself, put your energy into learning the alternative methods to recover.

I was going to potentially give EMDR(think that is the right abrreviation) a try, though I admit I am skeptical it will be at all useful. But my medicaid will cover it so what do I have to lose?

Aside from that not really sure what a somatic experiencing therapist is or if medicaid covers them. Even so if it really requires the person with PTSD to put a ridiculous amount of effort into recovery I just don't know I have it in me to put that much into it if that makes sense.

[Hellion]

Originally Posted by Teacake

When people talk about PTSD they can be referring to

1. Personality disorders, which are caused by early childhood trauma which interferes with attachments and interferes with childhood development.

2. Post traumatic stress, which is when a healthy person gets stuck in a physiological state of arousal that is normal, natural and healthy for threat to life, but injurious to the body-mind when it is prolonged.

There are stages of post traumatic stress. The body cant maintain high arousal forever. It has to come down. If it can discharge Its high arousal it can come down naturally. If it cant discharge it Naturally it does Its homeostasis thing to protect itself as it buena out Its glands through overuse.

People seem to prefer that childhood injury be called ptsd instead of personality disorder because some uneducated insensitive folks have a shif attitude toward borderline and narcissism and the others. Personality disorders CAN be cured/healed with patience and good therapy. They are not shameful conditions. Probably most of our beloved poets and artists and entertainers and historical figures had them and toughed out the symptoms or made their families suffer. The Lincolns and Kennedys were dysfunctional families. Now we can all heal those wounds and evolve so new generations arent burdened like we were.

The only reason I get shrill about ptsd not being c-ptsd is it confuses treatment. People go into the wrong treatment and dont get better.

Not entirely sure what you mean....Personality Disorders and PTSD are not the same thing. However personality disorders can also have to do with traumatic experiences as well as growing up in an unhealthy environment, people with personality disorders can also get PTSD on top of it. So its not really a matter of people prefering to call personality disorders PTSD, they are different diagnoses and have different symptoms.

What then is the right treatment for c-ptsd? all that means is there have been multiple traumas rather than a single one resulting in the PTSD...so treating it as a PD if its PTSD would make no sense, of course if someone has both treating both would make sense.

Also PTS is not a diagnoses, i think that and acute stress syndrome are names for after effects of trauma anyone would experience...PTSD is when it doesn't start naturally decreasing and you remain in that state to the point it interferes with your life also not everyone exposed to trauma gets PTSD though everyone probably experiences post traumatic stress or acute stress syndrome when exposed to trauma but that wears off....for whatever reason some peoples brains aren't able to process it so it doesn't wear off which results in PTSD, having no support increases the chance of developing PTSD after trauma as well.

People with no mental health issues and people with already existing mental health issues can get PTSD, there is no requirement the individual is 'healthy' before developing PTSD.