[JayDKay]

For ten years now, we've been living in an apartment complex, and for about four or five of those years, we've had to deal with the worst next door neighbors we've ever had. An Asian mother and daughter who would run around the apartment, scream at each other (at times we'd only hear the daughter screaming like a psycho ***** without even putting any coherent words together), slam the door, and stomp all over the place, all the time. Sometimes even past midnight. Throughout the years I've sent countless email complains to the building management about them, and while it did accomplish having them receive some warning letters and notices, no permanent solution ever happened. Any time I'd have my hopes up about something big being accomplished, like an eviction notice or something, the management would then go back on their word and pretend nothing happened. So I'm sick of how useless they were. If it counts for anything, we live in government housing, and we don't have the money to have moved to a new building. We've even tried talking to the neighbors themselves at a couple of instances but all that happened was them lying to us about stopping, giving us a fake apology, and continuing the very same thing the next day. I even heard that they've been offered help, but they refused. They really are the most selfish, inconsiderate *****es I've ever had to put up with in the real world.

For the last year or two though, they have been better and more quiet than they have been earlier on, although it's still been far from perfect. My reactions and coping to the situation has gotten so bad over time, however, that I've become sensitive to the slightest noise and would often have earphones on with something playing on them just to make sure I don't hear anything.

A few months ago, we finally changed apartments. Not a different building, but a different apartment within the same building. The new apartment is only right across the building now, and since we don't have a hallway, only an outdoor route from door to door, we can still very much see their front door, as it is right in front of us. Even though we've been here for a few months now I still find myself getting really paranoid that I'll hear something coming from their side, and occasionally I still hear door slams and assume it's them, even though there are a number of apartments in between us. Often I even get worried about going outside, since I am worried for myself about what I'd do or say if I encounter them again. For the longest time I've been wanting to finally verbally explode at them, such as telling them to get the hell out of the house, finally, but I can never find it in me to do so. The fact that we had to put in the effort to change apartments while they are still there in the exact same spot makes me sick, and I don't think I can rest and find peace until they are finally gone, for good. I've even started becoming less patient with other Asians I encounter on the streets, often thinking badly of them in my head. It's probably not a good thing that it's come to this, but what can I do.

I've been wanting to make a thread about this for a while now, and here it is. Not sure if the PTSD category is the best choice but I'll let others decide that.

[phoenix7]

you have a lot of anger inside against them and I can understand that - if they are quieter now can you stop yourself when you start to get angry and say - something like - and what good does it do me to get angry now? does it benefit me or harm me ? hard to do when triggered I know......

its like waiting for the other shoe to drop isn't it - more annoying when they are quiet because you are waiting for the noise to start..

have you tried mindfulness or distraction techniques?

meditation

playing relaxing music to cover the non noise or noise as the case may be?

P7

Loud, sudden noises - especially when not expected - are definitely an issue for me and my C-PTSD.

Another condition that you may not be aware of is this:

Symptoms and Triggers - Misophonia Online - What is Misophonia?

Studies are being done to see how that factors in with PTSD, and while it isn't official yet (like C-PTSD), I have a feeling that both of these will eventually become a part of that psychiatric bible that thinks that unless it's in there it isn't real ... But, those pompous bozos that "officially" accept or reject stuff over there have their heads up their arrogant butts as far as I'm concerned!

I truly hope your situation improves, and look forward to you attending more PTSD chats with us!

Sincerely,
Pfrog!

[Angelique67]

The neighbors downstairs from me, along with the janitor, have been trying to make me leave by abusing me in every way possible. At the moment, post block party, they are burning some of my trash and it's making me sick. The smell of the smoke is disgusting.

I wish I had a home. A safe, nice place, without psychos burning my trash, or poisoning my air or other things.

Dear God, please let their evil karma descend onto them and destroy them.

[Angelique67]

Oh dear God, they're burning whatever they were burning last night again. It smells sickening and I'm very upset.

[JayDKay]

Distraction can kind of help but in the end it's just a temporary solution. My way of thinking is that I need to see everything in the bigger picture. I need a permanent solution.

Pfrog, thanks for that article. I guess I can relate with misophonia in a way. Unfortunately that's what this has come down to.

Angelique, is there anything you can do about it legally? The way I see it is if that if I've tried every other option, which didn't work, then I need to start coming up with my own solutions somehow, no matter how long it takes.

[Angelique67]

Originally Posted by JayDKay

Distraction can kind of help but in the end it's just a temporary solution. My way of thinking is that I need to see everything in the bigger picture. I need a permanent solution.

Pfrog, thanks for that article. I guess I can relate with misophonia in a way. Unfortunately that's what this has come down to.

Angelique, is there anything you can do about it legally? The way I see it is if that if I've tried every other option, which didn't work, then I need to start coming up with my own solutions somehow, no matter how long it takes.

Thank you, JayDKay. I guess maybe I could find out what decibels the music is, I could more successfully I could make a complaint.

And also, the evil ones, I have to see if I can take videos of what they're doing. Can't do a thing while they're behind their door. Plus, I'm afraid of the stairs, still, alone.