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Old Nov 18, 2014, 05:17 PM
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Recently, after dealing with the VA for several years for anxiety, I saw a private doctor. He gave me Seroquel for anxiety control and sleep. It makes me sleep very well but I wake up in almost a rage. I've never felt quite so angry. He advised I triple the dose but I was falling asleep at work. He went on to prescribe Risperdal but I am reluctant to take it since it's for schizophrenics. I don't want to make the situation worse but I need something for sleep and anxiety. Would there be any harm in my trying the Risperdal? Not sure why I just can't get a diazepam but I will use anything that might help. Does anyone here have experience with this drug? Really need advice on whether I should take it or see another doctor...thanks so much.

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Old Nov 18, 2014, 07:50 PM
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Just so you know, seroquel is an antipsychotic as well....so same class as risperidone...personally I'd see another doc....this seems odd as a first line treatment for sleep and anxiety....
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Old Nov 18, 2014, 08:53 PM
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Atypical anti psychotics are super popular, which both of those are, with docs these days. Personally I would rather take a benzo. Benzos have dangers too but AAP's for anxiety and sleep is over kill to me. Especially tripling dose and adding a new one because you had a problem

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Old Nov 19, 2014, 09:15 AM
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That's what I was thinking. Lorazipam or Alprazolam have worked so well for me when I have them available but they just don't want to prescribe them for whatever reason. Never had a drug problem, so not sure why it's so hard for me to get them, but they make a huge difference in my daily functionality. I appreciate the advice and will schedule an appointment with somebody else...
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Old Nov 19, 2014, 02:33 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Lorazipam or Alprazolam have worked so well for me when I have them available but they just don't want to prescribe them for whatever reason. Never had a drug problem, so not sure why it's so hard for me to get them, but they make a huge difference in my daily functionality. I appreciate the advice and will schedule an appointment with somebody else...
It took me a year of begging and trying everything else before I got klonopin. My clinic has a pretty anti benzo policy. Addiction issues, horrible withdrawal for some people when they go off of them. Government tightening up things. Worries about liability (that's the big one I think).

I told them it was unethical for them not to give me something we knew would work very well after trying everything else. I was suffering horrible anxiety that brought on paranoia and was putting me very close to the edge of suicide. Depression I can handle but not anxiety. He relented and gave it to me. I love my pdoc but he has pressures from his bosses at the clinic.
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Old Nov 19, 2014, 05:08 PM
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Yes, the VA is very reluctant anymore to prescribe and of the diazepams. At my age, addiction is not an issue. But, we'll see what happens. I thank you all for your replies.
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Old Nov 22, 2014, 12:26 PM
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Recently, after dealing with the VA for several years for anxiety, I saw a private doctor. He gave me Seroquel for anxiety control and sleep. It makes me sleep very well but I wake up in almost a rage. I've never felt quite so angry. He advised I triple the dose but I was falling asleep at work. He went on to prescribe Risperdal but I am reluctant to take it since it's for schizophrenics. I don't want to make the situation worse but I need something for sleep and anxiety. Would there be any harm in my trying the Risperdal? Not sure why I just can't get a diazepam but I will use anything that might help. Does anyone here have experience with this drug? Really need advice on whether I should take it or see another doctor...thanks so much.
Hello James,

In my opinion, if you see a doctor or psychiatrist with a psychological problem and the first thing they want to try is a drug, RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

I hope I'm not upsetting you, but I am pissed.

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Old Nov 22, 2014, 01:13 PM
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Hello James,

In my opinion, if you see a doctor or psychiatrist with a psychological problem and the first thing they want to try is a drug, RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

I hope I'm not upsetting you, but I am pissed.

http://forums.psychcentral.com/depre...ised-pass.html

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why would you post this without some sort of warning? i find it very dangerous to do so.

not sure of your motive here.

i can understand why YOU are pissed.

james is a vet. he needs our support. gently. he has only started posting. you respond with a post that could be very triggering.

sorry to be so aggressive, but i am probably not the only one who is hyper-sesitive to these types of stories.

i suggest that you think a bit about posting possible disturbing info/stories in people's threads. i feel a post like your post should have been in it's own thread.

james and many of us need all the hope and support we can get. not a unsuspected slap when asking for help/advice.

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Old Nov 22, 2014, 01:21 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Lorazipam or Alprazolam have worked so well for me when I have them available but they just don't want to prescribe them for whatever reason. Never had a drug problem, so not sure why it's so hard for me to get them, but they make a huge difference in my daily functionality. I appreciate the advice and will schedule an appointment with somebody else...
james; thanks for your service. i sincerely mean that.

if you have had success with the drugs you mentioned above i would find a new doc who will rx these for you.

i agree with the others that the drugs you are on right now might not be the best to treat your symptoms. especially, if you have had success with the above mentioned meds.

also good that you are planning on seeing another doc. there are good ones out there that listen. it might take some time/effort on your part though.

hang-in there.

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Old Nov 22, 2014, 07:13 PM
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Yes, the VA is very reluctant anymore to prescribe and of the diazepams. At my age, addiction is not an issue. But, we'll see what happens. I thank you all for your replies.

There is not much else. Buspar, Vistiral an anti histamine that was useless for me. Muscle relaxers.

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Old Nov 22, 2014, 10:57 PM
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I thought seroquel was an anti-psychotic which that other one would be to if it is used for schizophrenia, but that is not the only use of them...they can help some people with sleep and anxiety. I was prescribed seroquel for that and yeah just made me irritable though tired.

I have diazepam for anxiety and trazodone to help me sleep currently and they work alright, trouble with diazepam is it can be addictive so sometimes doctors are reluctant to prescribe it.

Never have tried that one you mention, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try it and if it doesn't work then you could talk to them about not taking it...though the side effects can be kind of unpleasant with such medications.
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Recently, after dealing with the VA for several years for anxiety, I saw a private doctor. He gave me Seroquel for anxiety control and sleep. It makes me sleep very well but I wake up in almost a rage. I've never felt quite so angry. He advised I triple the dose but I was falling asleep at work. He went on to prescribe Risperdal but I am reluctant to take it since it's for schizophrenics. I don't want to make the situation worse but I need something for sleep and anxiety. Would there be any harm in my trying the Risperdal? Not sure why I just can't get a diazepam but I will use anything that might help. Does anyone here have experience with this drug? Really need advice on whether I should take it or see another doctor...thanks so much.
I forgot to mention that I use Remeron for sleep. It works very well. It is an anti depressant. Kind of in it's own class. It can cause weight gain in a lot of people but it hasn't for me. Much safer than Seroquel or a benzo for sleep I think. Trazadone is used a lot too. An older anti depressant. It tends to give you a hangover effect.
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