[SandyWeb]

I'll try to make this short and sweet. After my daughter's adventure in Dental Land, I had my own on Monday. I had to get a couple of teeth pulled and some work on part of my gum. Oral surgeon, not a regular dentist.

Okay, me in the chair, nurse, surgeon, and 3rd year dental student. Hooked up to IV. Surgeon fills syringe and tells student that this is Fentanyl, a narcotic, can you tell me its method of action. "No." Okay, so that gets injected in me. Made me just a little bit dizzy, but that's all. Barely noticeable. Surgeon fills up another syringe, this is Versed, what type of drug is it and its method of action? "Anti-anxiety and I don't know it's method of action." Surgeon tells him to come back tomorrow with the answers to both those drugs. Yikes! 3rd year student?? Scary. Injects me with Versed. Then they all leave to let me get sleepy. Well, I don't. I see them walking back and forth past my open door, checking on me as I am basically twiddling my thumbs. Surgeon comes in once and asks how I feel and I say, "I feel like ....me." So off he goes again. A couple of minutes later, all three of them come in and start setting everything up. I grabbed the surgeon's arm and said, "Wait! Don't start anything yet. I'm not sedated!". He said, "Oh no, we wouldn't do that", and then injects another big syringe of Versed in. Then the nurse put a nose cannulas on me. I said that was different and she said it was and she didn't know why they were doing that! (Probably thought I was going to OD! LOL). Then she runs her fingers down my eyes and tells me to close them, the doc freezes my mouth, and off to work they go. I'm fully conscious, but relaxed enough just get this over with. But because we had waited so dang long, the narcotic was wearing off, and I felt pain about 3 different times (which I let them know!!! Lol). Anyways, half an hour later, all done, go to Recovery Room, fully alert from the start.

Doc tells Recovery nurse to write in the reports for the drugs: 15 and 200. The 15 got no reaction from her, but she jerked her head up and asked loudly "200?!?". And the surgeon shook his head yes with this amazed smile on his face. I asked if that was a lot, and he said, "Yes".

Question: 15 was obviously a normal dose (no reaction), and it was wearing off before the procedure was done simply because I couldn't get sedated. The 200 was obviously unusual to these professionals, and it allowed me to relax enough to let these people do their job. How much of an abnormal dose is 200 of Versed?? I'm really curious because of their reactions.

God bless,
Sandy

[kimmydawn]

I can't answer your questions about dosage.

I can say that I have major difficulties with drugs and had versed once just before my galbladder surgery. I don't know if it was alone or a combo, but I remember telling t that a body should have access to whatever I had (versed or combo) once a week...LOL.

I'd never in my life felt so "right". HOWEVER, I learned what the books mean when they say that a side effect of some drugs can be a false sense of security. Nothing could've been wrong if it were.

I'm interested to see the replies about this as well...

KD

[psisci]

KD, you are funny. I had that feeling once with 20 mgs of valium and 100 mg IV demerol....

For the OP, why all the drugs and not just numb you up??

[SweetSunshine]

I found out that I cannot handle Versed. It makes me sick to my stomach. Whatver they do use on me for my surgeries they always use too much . Probably because of my weight .. they think they need to . But it takes me hours upon hours to come out of the anesthesia. I hate it.

[SandyWeb]

KimmyDawn has found her perfect match......Versed! May we toast the happy couple! Lol.

Actually, I didn't have anything like that happen. I just relaxed enough to let the surgeon do his work....even listened to a bit of his boring golf talk. Lol. I guess I had just been waiting so long to get this procedure done (since January and it was scheduled for the end of June) that when they had a cancellation, I jumped at the chance to get this pain out of my mouth!!!!! But, boo hoo, I didn't feel happy or peaceful or "high" or anything along those lines.....I just allowed strangers to enter my mouth and pull out teeth! Lol. It was a relief!

Hmmmm......I've heard from other people who had Versed too, and they all say the same. That it is a WONDERFUL drug....never felt better. I think I missed out on some great experience!!! Darn it all!!

God bless,
Sandy

[SandyWeb]

Hey there Mr. Alien-Looking Man (psisci). But I've got you beat on that one. I've got a legal card.....actually, a Green Card....where the US Government itself calls me a "Legal ALIEN". Yup! I'm the real deal.

I had my procedure done in the hospital and I had a choice: freezing, or sedation with freezing. I may be an alien, but I come from an intelligent world.....SEDATION PLEASE.

God bless,
Sandy

[SandyWeb]

Hi Sweet Sunshine,

That's too bad about the Versed making you sick to your stomach. They told me that could happen, but I was back to normal so quickly I didn't even get the GOOD part of the experience. Lol.

My daughter just had surgery, and she was on morphine for a few days. It made her very nauseaus. But when we came home, we had Dilaudid instead of the Morphine, and that was soooo much more gentle on her tummy.

Some chemicals like us and some just plain don't.

And I'd still like to know what a dose of 200 Versed is compared to an average dose. Why were they so shocked and amused??

God bless,
Sandy

[drunksunflower]

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I'd never in my life felt so "right". HOWEVER, I learned what the books mean when they say that a side effect of some drugs can be a false sense of security. Nothing could've been wrong if it were.


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Hmmm, I think this feeling can be achieved on a number of illicit drugs too! Floaty, blissful, all is right with the world ... sigh. Beautiful.

I think a weekly dose of that feeling could make all of us rather a lot cheerier - lol.

/end hijack.

I take a lot of meds for bp 1 & several of them say to notify the dentist or doc if I'm going to have any procedures done. It seems the bp drugs may interfer with the drugs they want to use to knock you out. Don't know if you are on any meds, but that could be why a regular dosage didn't work.

My doc said to always notify the surgeions in advance what meds I'm taking. They may want me to dicontinue for awhile before the procedure.

I had morphine in the hospital & it didn't give me a high at all, just relieved the physical pain I was in.--Suzy

[SandyWeb]

Yes, the oral surgeon asked about every med I took and what it was for. So he knew what he was dealing with.

I think it's just difficult for me to not be on my guard, you know? That's why I don't sleep well, period.

And yes, my daughter didn't get high on the Morphine or the Dilaudid....it helped a lot with her pain, but she wasn't pain-free. Although she DID have funky, funny dreams at night that I called "drug dreams" and told her to enjoy them while she could! Lol.

God bless,
Sandy

[okiedokie]

I have to say, love both of these drugs...

Okie

[SandyWeb]

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I have to say, love both of these drugs...

Okie

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Well, I just don't get it. What's wrong with my brain circuitry that you all have fun on these meds and they hardly do squat for me? Sure, I got a little dizzy. Was that the fun part?

Dang it, my first time in 42 years to have some really good drugs (and I'm not counting when I'm in labor because you could have fooled me that I was on drugs through all that pain! LOL)....and I'm too on guard to let my defenses down enough to "enjoy the ride". Poohy!

Oh well, at least I wasn't fresh-eyed and bushy-tailed! I *was* a little bit more relaxed than normal. That's a blessing, at least.

God bless,
Sandy