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Old Jul 23, 2011, 05:47 PM
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A few weeks ago when I was walking into T's office she mentioned that I always smile at her in the waiting room. She said that most people don't smile. I laughed and didn't think much of it. Then the following week as I was walking into her office we had our typical "How are you?" "Good, how are you?" "Good." Exchange. It's habit for me to ask people how they are, and though I know she isn't going to tell me about her day, I would feel rude not asking, you know? So, we do that every week, but this particular week she mentioned it, noticed that we do it every week, and I think she said she enjoyed it. We laughed a little about it and moved on...

Is she trying to get me to see something that I'm just not seeing? I've been assuming that she's just making small talk. I like her, of course I'm going to smile when I see her, even when I'm miserable. I mean.. she's so short (and so am I. We're about the same height) it's hard not to smile. But now I'm wondering if she thinks I'm fake.
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 05:56 PM
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I can't even give my T eye contact, so maybe she is just noticing that you are able to do that.
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 05:59 PM
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That brings up a good point... I'm generally pretty good with eye contact and smiling and small talk because I've learned how to do all of that while working in retail. (Everything I know I learned as a sales manager, is the title of my next book, lol) So... I think that sometimes I treat my sessions like I would a business meeting. I'm kind of emotionless and task oriented. It's not hard to make eye contact when I'm detached. So I guess I'm wondering if she's mentioning these things because she thinks I'm being detached or fake. Or maybe I'm just reading into it too much. I'm absolutely insane.
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 06:22 PM
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I think we read too much into these things. I believe that upon initial contact a T will size us up to gauge what kind of mood we are in to get an idea what our session will be like. i do groups with kids and when i go out into the lobby, i can tell the way they are sitting in theri chairs, the looks on their faces, how interacting with their parents what kind of mood they are in and i will make comments as we walk to my office. My T too will look me up and down walking to his office. comment on my smile, or lack of. I hate that walk down the hall. it is so awkward. so maybe your T is just making conversation. if something were to come of it, it probably would have already. another thing my T used to do i thought was some kind of plot to get a message through was he would gently touch my arm. it seemed every session, every group i went to he managed to touch me, not in an inappropriate way at all, just a hand on me briefly as he walked by or when we stood. i thought he was trying to desensitize me to human touch and i just wanted to yell at him that it wasnt going to work, that everytime he touched me it still creeped me out, but i couldnt be certain if he was doing it on purpose or not. nothing ever came of it. i think i was reading too much into it. if he was doing it for a reason, it would have come out by now.
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 06:56 PM
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I have this same worry, very often. But I agree with kaliope - I do think we tend to read too much into these sorts of things. My T might wonder why I always smile at her and make jokes that get us laughing, but when we get into serious stuff, I think she can see that my feelings are genuine. Therapists remember the reasons why we sought therapy in the first place, and the fact that we approach them with a good mood isn't going to make them think we're fake or that our feelings aren't valid. Maybe talk to your T about this?
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 07:39 PM
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I don't think she is trying to tell you something, I think she is just letting you know how she sees you and that you are smiling. Are you glad to see her? Or a nervous smile?
I'm curiouis why your thought is that she would be thinking you are 'fake'.

I think that first few minutes can be so awkward and it sounds like the way my session starts and has started most of the time for the last 4+ years. Other times we just say "Hi" and I go from there.

Do you think you tell your T about your thoughts and concerns in your post?
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 07:43 PM
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It sounds like she really likes you and may be happy to see that you ask about her, even if she can't answer. That you are a well-mannered human!
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 07:49 PM
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I've noticed my T always smiles when he sees me, and it makes me smile back, because I *am* happy to see him.

This week, when I saw him the day after I put my cat to sleep, he saw me and made a sad face and it was so weird. It made me sad

For me, our shared smiles are a shared "hey, here we are, this is good"

It really IS hard not to read into things T says. I bet she likes seeing that smile...if you're unsure, can you ask?
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 07:55 PM
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You are all so great. ((((((((group hug)))))))))

Ah, so I'm well mannered, I like that perspective! Much better than worry.

I've been called fake before, mostly by my friends who aren't in retail. It's important to me that I be approachable and friendly at work, not just for sales reasons, but also because I think it's the right thing to do. I have had customers that drove me insane, but I always try to maintain composure and treat them the way I would want to be treated. I personally don't think this makes me fake, I think it makes me patient. Not everyone sees it that way, though. My ex (who I now have a restraining order against, so you can guess how close we are..) always called me fake because of the way I interact with my customers and some other people in my life. I try not to take everything she says at face value, but it's hard to not look at myself when people say things like that. I wasn't wondering if T thought I was fake until I remembered a conversation where I was talking about potentially doing something and T said "Isn't that a little disingenuous?" That was months ago but I just remembered it and looked up the definition of disingenuous. One of the meanings is insincere... so I began to wonder if perhaps there was a pattern that T was seeing that I was missing... which brought me to the smiling and chit chat.

Ultimately, I don't think I'm insincere. I think I have difficulty being in touch with my emotions... perhaps if I felt my emotions I could be more sincere about them. I don't know. But the more I think about it, the more I realize that I wouldn't want to do anything but smile at T. She's kind, and adorable, and funny, and short. What is there not to smile at?

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And yes, I will ask her. I'm trying to prioritize my list of things to talk about Fri since this is the first session back from her vacation. Can't wait!!

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Old Jul 23, 2011, 09:03 PM
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How about asking her why she's saying that? I learned something from my specialist T - that I sometimes use my smile as my mask. I was astounded to hear that but I think it's true. Talking to your T about it can lend some insight maybe.

But what is fake? There are different levels of intimacy.
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Old Jul 23, 2011, 10:14 PM
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I generally laugh when I'm anxious (around T). Elsewhere, I don't let my anxiety shows.
She's mentioned it to me once or twice, even got annoyed when I started laughing at something she said.
But I've been able to tone it down to a smile now... Which she's pointed out as well.
I think they're trained in nvc or non verbal communication as well as verbally.
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That brings up a good point... I'm generally pretty good with eye contact and smiling and small talk because I've learned how to do all of that while working in retail. (Everything I know I learned as a sales manager, is the title of my next book, lol) So... I think that sometimes I treat my sessions like I would a business meeting. I'm kind of emotionless and task oriented. It's not hard to make eye contact when I'm detached. So I guess I'm wondering if she's mentioning these things because she thinks I'm being detached or fake. Or maybe I'm just reading into it too much. I'm absolutely insane.

My T tells me to be interested in myself - so whatever I think / feel, not to judge it but to have a "hmmm that's interesting" moment.
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