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Old Jan 18, 2012, 12:04 AM
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Engineering disease? I haven't heard of that.. I'll have to look it up. Is it just another way of saying the way engineers think (the shortest distance between A and B is a straight line) or is it an actual disease?

My dad was an engineer for 40 years until retirement and he was every bit the stereotype. He doesn't display emotions...ever. Except anger once in a while. I think I learned a thing or two from him. I dont think he has any emotional intelligence whatsoever (another thing I inherited, lol).

Its funny that generalization because for my dad it is 100% right on the mark, hahaha! Well actually for me too except I'm not an engineer.

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Old Jan 18, 2012, 05:11 PM
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I suppose Aspergers is like most (all?) disabilities....
Some people argue that Asperger's is not a "disability" - we're just different.

But to be "different" in a society made by and for neurotypicals can certainly be a challenge!
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 05:24 PM
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Thanks for your replies guys!

I have read it allllll over the internet, as well as was taught at university, as well as where I used to work. I thought the whole purpose of therapy was you learn something in the therapy session and then you do some followup things at home and if you don't, then that means you aren't putting in any effort and you will get no positive results. That's what I was always taught anyways. They always said if you are only working on your issues in your session alone, then that is lazy and will get you minimal results (if any).

I don't want to be lazy. I want to be proactive. That's what it comes down to, really. And its a tough one because the direction I want to go in is to decrease my depression. Even if it was just a little bit. however, I am housebound and don't have the ability to wash my clothes/go out/shower/get dressed/etc so I am very limited in what I can do.

I believe my last therapy failed because I was doing the wrong thing outside of the therapy session. But since I don't know what the RIGHT thing is, then I can't change that and my new therapy is doomed to follow the same path. I asked my new T about it and got the textbook "only YOU know what you should be doing" speel, but I do not. So I was asking you guys if you had any ideas.

I'm just sick to death of all this mysterious BS that only *I* am supposed to know. And when I go looking to find answers, people treat me like I'm some sort of idiot for not just magically knowing it myself. If i knew all these answers then I wouldn't be in this predicament. Grrr, Whatever happened to that saying "it is OK to ask for help" ? Why is it all of a sudden so shameful and appalling for me to ask for help? Not you guys, i mean people in general.
Yes, it is hard to get the idea of what one is supposed to do..........I just try to maKE everyday as happy as I can. I fail a lot, and am scared a lot and don't even know if this is the way to reply.
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 07:13 PM
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Yeah when they diagnosed me I looked it up on the net (as you do) and I can definitely see why Aspergers can be considered a gift rather than a disability. Since they excel in areas of logic, rationality, etc. Some people are really good at some things whereas some people are really good at other things.
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 07:21 PM
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Oh btw I just got back from my new psychiatrist (finally got one that bulk bills, woohoo!). He seems alright. He actually seemed like he cared, which for me is a very good thing. And he pulled out this letter that my T had faxed him yesterday with all my info in it. It was 3 pages long, pages FULL of text! I am a bit gob smacked because normally they just send over a 1 paragraph summary and omit most of the important stuff but the T had obviously put in a lot of effort writing this thing up, not to mention having it sent to him BEFORE my appointment. Very thorough too. I was very impressed. I will thank her for that tomorrow when I see her.
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Old Jan 19, 2012, 09:31 AM
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Oh btw I just got back from my new psychiatrist (finally got one that bulk bills, woohoo!). He seems alright. He actually seemed like he cared, which for me is a very good thing. And he pulled out this letter that my T had faxed him yesterday with all my info in it. It was 3 pages long, pages FULL of text! I am a bit gob smacked because normally they just send over a 1 paragraph summary and omit most of the important stuff but the T had obviously put in a lot of effort writing this thing up, not to mention having it sent to him BEFORE my appointment. Very thorough too. I was very impressed. I will thank her for that tomorrow when I see her.
that's great!
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Old Jan 19, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Yeah I don't have a T anymore, so I will see if the new psychiatrist can hook me up with a new one that bulk bills or is free. I think this psychiatrist is a god send... he has resources and networks which can help me. (and meds lol)
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Old Jan 20, 2012, 04:50 AM
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Finally got one that bulk bills, woohoo.
What does "bulk billing" mean in this context?
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Old Jan 20, 2012, 08:23 AM
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Oh I will thank her for that tomorrow when I see her.
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Yeah I don't have a T anymore, so I will see if the new psychiatrist can hook me up with a new one that bulk bills or is free.
Wait...you lost me, what happened to T? You had her then you didn't...that's awful!

I did ECT when in a dark depression that just wouldn't lift. I tried tons of meds, was hospitalized several times and finally ECT. It worked at about the 4th or 5th session. THen I did monthly maintenance for a while. Been a year or so since I had it. Right now meds are working to keep the darkness at bay, thank God.

Between sessions: My T doesn't give homework, but I try really hard to accomplish 1 thing each week. That could be as difficult as bathing the dog, or as easy as a short walk outside. Just one thing. Write a letter that tries to verbalize my thoughts, paint a picture, play catch with my dog. Just something to tell myself "I did _____".
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Old Jan 20, 2012, 10:07 AM
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yeah, what happened to ur t? but I remember you said something about how the t's available when you can't pay aren't as qualified or something, so if ur psychiatrist knows how to find someone who will work better for you, that's great.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 03:12 AM
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"bulk billing" here means the government pays for it - its paid on Medicare. The Ts and psychiatrists that bulk bill are just as qualified, it's just that they are overworked and a lot of them have a huge caseload and are burnt out. Not all of them ofcourse but that is the general consensus around here. They have a lootttttt of clients to help but there aren't enough of them (the Ts and pdocs). The one I saw was linked to one of the public hospitals here in their recovery team. For some reason the government isn't willing to spend more money on hiring more psych people to assist these people, so the existing psych people have a huge caseload. The T i had didnt seem burnt out but I guess you can never tell.

The reason I won't be continuing seeing this T is because she revealed last week that she believes I have a bad attitude, and that I only have myself to blame for not being able to shower/leave the house/ wash my clothes/etc, that i don't want to work, that i only have myself to blame for being mentally ill. And that if I could get up off my ***** and stop being lazy I would be able to do these things quite easily. That sort of thing. To me, that is unacceptable not to mention unprofessional.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 09:05 AM
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sorry things didn't go well with your t
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 09:11 AM
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Engineering disease? I haven't heard of that.. I'll have to look it up. Is it just another way of saying the way engineers think (the shortest distance between A and B is a straight line) or is it an actual disease?

My dad was an engineer for 40 years until retirement and he was every bit the stereotype. He doesn't display emotions...ever. Except anger once in a while. I think I learned a thing or two from him. I dont think he has any emotional intelligence whatsoever (another thing I inherited, lol).

Its funny that generalization because for my dad it is 100% right on the mark, hahaha! Well actually for me too except I'm not an engineer.
haha, no, I was kidding about engineering being a disease. people talk about commonalities between Aspergers and engineers a lot though.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 09:12 AM
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when did my mother become your therapist?? THAT is insane! But it sure makes the revision of the diagnostic manual a lot easier - two categories: bad attitude, and lazy. Un-freaking-believable. Where did she get her degree, out of a Cracker-Jack box? I am so sorry you were treated like that. I hope you realize we know who you are here, and we are with you. I can't even imagine what her motivation in saying these things were.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 02:34 PM
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haha, no, I was kidding about engineering being a disease. people talk about commonalities between Aspergers and engineers a lot though.
Engineering, science, academia and computing all provide good careers for Aspergics in an environment where we feel safe. So naturally that's where we go.

It's not a bad life. There's plenty worse off than us.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 04:02 PM
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Engineering, science, academia and computing all provide good careers for Aspergics in an environment where we feel safe. So naturally that's where we go.

It's not a bad life. There's plenty worse off than us.
i hope i didn't sound like I was putting down Aspergics. Sorry if I did.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 05:33 PM
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i hope i didn't sound like I was putting down Aspergics. Sorry if I did.
Not at all!
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 09:44 PM
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I kept my appointment for this friday and I'll just go there and ask her if she can refer me to someone more appropriate. She works in the public health system so maybe she has networks or knows of a service i could try for free (or bulk bill, which is pretty much the same). I know she will give me the "oh that's not what I meant at all, you just imagined it" speel, lol. But idc as long as she can refer me to something that I can try next, and I will be a happy camper!
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