anyone in this kind of therapy?

[Perna]

Hadn't come across it before; here's some good explanatory reading I discovered on it though: http://davidbricker.com/clientsguideSchemaTherapy.pdf

Whoa!

For instance a child whose need for secure attachments is not fulfilled by his parents may go for many years
in later life without secure relationships.

It purports to have a solution to this problem. Sounds great!

Originally Posted by Perna

Hadn't come across it before; here's some good explanatory reading I discovered on it though: http://davidbricker.com/clientsguideSchemaTherapy.pdf

Whoa!

It purports to have a solution to this problem. Sounds great!

Yes it is a great form of therapy...BUT .....lets say the therapist keeps "abandoning" the client.......( by making promises and not going through with them and not responding to phone calls etc. making the client sad and vulnerable over and over again)

What is the purpose....... I am trying to have an objective look at it...

Originally Posted by lonelybychoice

Yes it is a great form of therapy...BUT .....lets say the therapist keeps "abandoning" the client.......( by making promises and not going through with them and not responding to phone calls etc. making the client sad and vulnerable over and over again)

What is the purpose....... I am trying to have an objective look at it...

Sorry I am refering to an other thread... " therapist did not offer a new appointment" think it might be some kind of schema therapeutic tecnique. Still not sure was is going on though

[Perna]

I think it is the other way around; a therapist will not/should not deliberately keep making promises and not go through with them or not respond to phone calls (unless they have have a boundary of "no phone calls"); that is not schema therapy.

As in the thread you are reading about not being offered a new appointment, the client has experienced the abandonment schema from parents/significant others in her life so "sees" it everywhere even before checking to see if that is what is happening.

It's kind of a thought fallacy or projection on one's part. We learn that "All that glitters is gold" then that "glass glitters" and conclude, "Therefore, glass is gold." People who have abandoned me in my past did so by making promises and not going through with them and not responding to my phone calls. My T did not respond to my phone call, therefore, my T has abandoned me. Meanwhile, T could be in the hospital unable to call or had to take the next flight out to Timbuktu to be with her dying mother and only has her cell phone which doesn't get reception out there, who knows until contact is made with someone who can say for sure, why T did not call back (yet).

[quote=Perna;2281335]I think it is the other way around; a therapist will not/should not deliberately keep making promises and not go through with them or not respond to phone calls (unless they have have a boundary of "no phone calls"); that is not schema therapy.

As in the thread you are reading about not being offered a new appointment, the client has experienced the abandonment schema from parents/significant others in her life so "sees" it everywhere even before checking to see if that is what is happening.

It's kind of a thought fallacy or projection on one's part. We learn that "All that glitters is gold" then that "glass glitters" and conclude, "Therefore, glass is gold." People who have abandoned me in my past did so by making promises and not going through with them and not responding to my phone calls. My T did not respond to my phone call, therefore, my T has abandoned me. Meanwhile, T could be in the hospital unable to call or had to take the next flight out to Timbuktu to be with her dying mother and only has her cell phone which doesn't get reception out there, who knows until contact is made with someone who can say for sure, why T did not call back (yet).[/quote

That is very insightfull and on the spot! BUT what does the therapist wants ( proffesionally in order to help) This has been going on for a year with no responses when I call and promises. I am tired you know! I had a neglecting childhood but nothing like this. From the hole of my heart ..I have a therapist who I truely think is okey and who I have nothing but care for ...I just don´t get the excercice so to speak!

[Perna]

If your T is not responding to you, you need to get another T! That is not schema therapy! Schema therapy is about you recognizing (not practicing) that when people in your real world, not your therapist, do not call you back or miss an appointment that it is not about you or an abandonment of you. You are paying your therapist to engage with you; if your therapist is saying it is part of the way she is treating you to deliberately make promises and then break them; I would not want that kind of therapy.

You do "enough" to check why a therapist did not get back to you "this" time but if they keep having incidents where they are not reliable(!!!) then you don't want them as a therapist anymore than you want a parent who abandons you!

i briefly tried schema therapy. first i was in a schema group but they did not want me in there; some members thought i would be better off in individual therapy. i could not afford to do both at the time.

so i went into individual schema therapy and was given an exam to rate where i stood on the 15 or 16 or 17 schema patterns (or whatever they call them and i forget exactly how many there were). i scored very high in all by one of them indicating a very high rate of problems. the therapist asked me which schema i'd like to work on first. i asked if there was one in particular that would be best; that was essential to working on the others - you know, a core schema from where to start. the therapist did not answer. he told me that i should just choose one.

next session, he reminded me that we needed to work on the schema and asked me how my week was. i spoke the entire 45 minutes on my week. at the end he scolded me for not discussing the schema. and this happened every week. the therapist would ask questions while i discussed my week; we never got to working on the schemas. therapist blamed me for lack of progress. therapist was fired. the end.

I do a bit of schema therapy as part of my CBT and, as Perna said, what your T is doing is not schema therapy. I definitely second finding a new T lonelybychoice. I've found thinking about schemas to be very helpful in my CBT. Like unhappyguy I started by filling out the schema questionnaire, which T then marked and we talked about what the results mean. Now we talk about which current things activate my schemas and question the negative automatic thoughts as in traditional CBT. T doesn't deliberately try to activate my schemas though.

www.schematherapy.com/id30.htm is a very good website by the guy (Young) who first developed schema therapy, if anyone wants to know more.

*Willow*

Originally Posted by WeepingWillow23

I do a bit of schema therapy as part of my CBT and, as Perna said, what your T is doing is not schema therapy. I definitely second finding a new T lonelybychoice. I've found thinking about schemas to be very helpful in my CBT. Like unhappyguy I started by filling out the schema questionnaire, which T then marked and we talked about what the results mean. Now we talk about which current things activate my schemas and question the negative automatic thoughts as in traditional CBT. T doesn't deliberately try to activate my schemas though.

www.schematherapy.com/id30.htm is a very good website by the guy (Young) who first developed schema therapy, if anyone wants to know more.

*Willow*

Well that has been my thought through out this process. T deliberately activating schemas in order to work on them... hmm. Still no response from T. This must be client dumbing since she did seem frustrated with me otherwise I hope she is truely okey. She usually is when not responding. But its a first she has not offered a new appointment.. " the not picking up the phone or responding to texts" is old news. Sooo ?? Still confused about the whole thing but think thats just it then