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Old Apr 02, 2012, 02:21 PM
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I rather liked this movie with James Wilby as the king: "Bertie and Elizabeth" (2002).

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Old Apr 02, 2012, 02:26 PM
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yep, nothing like a little poetic license.... putting one's own interpretive spin on what the reality may have been.
yes, I will certainly concede that the speech guy was manipulative, but not in the negative or malicious sense; rather in the sense of pushing the buttons he figured out were the buttons to push that would get the intended, and overall positive, results. but then, there has been various discussion on the manipulative tendencies of Ts, and whether that's bad or good, too, eh?
and strong-minded, yes. a certain arrogance, too, yes ..... or maybe just a strong self-confidence. people like that can maybe get under your skin or set your teeth on edge.....you might like to take them a peg or two down. but is it always really them.....or are they a mirror of something you don't like/want to see in yourself - or conversely something you would actually like to have more of in yourself, but resent them for having what you think you do not. who knows?
now, would have I liked speech guy in real life or would have I wanted to keep dealing with him or have him as a friend as he was played in the movie ...... that I don't know. it's just that, as the movie portrays it, the style/method/approach worked for the king ..... and I do have respect for the work the speech guy did for the king.
I mainly appreciated what I saw as really good powerful acting, too.
I think sometimes the king did seem to want to impale him, stopdog. And others around the king appeared to have similar thoughts/doubts.....maybe a bit of a polarizing, or controversial (adversarial?) figure.
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Old Apr 02, 2012, 02:38 PM
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I sat there thinking it was only because the king put the duty to country before himself or speech guy totally impaled.
Of course, they both could have been putting duty to country before themselves.
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Old Apr 02, 2012, 03:02 PM
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Of course, they both could have been putting duty to country before themselves.
which would mean they were choosing to work together for the common good and for a greater purpose, not their own personal, individual interests only/separately......an alliance of necessity (which happened to turn into friendship and might have been even more effective because it had a deeper bond to it)
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Old Apr 03, 2012, 05:49 AM
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.... Sometimes the best friends (or best Ts) aren't the ones who coddle/empathize/sympathize and flood us with soft words and soft actions......but the ones who are hard on us, who push us, who demand we rise up and get our a$$es in gear and be authentic, find and use our real voices.....the ones who do NOT tiptoe around our faults, weaknesses, tender spots, wounds, but confront us and help us confront ourselves......

well.... yes.
But I hate it when that happens.
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Old Apr 03, 2012, 05:55 AM
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well.... yes.
But I hate it when that happens.
me too. it makes me feel all bristly, prickly, and adversarial. it's not always fun to be challenged - but I suppose it could be fun sort of sometimes to challenge the challenge.
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But I can't tell her....and there is a sort of a resigned sorrow I feel about that, a sense of poignant loss, but yet a sense of gain too.....because she did help me see something I had not seen before - that I AM an overcomer - and even though I can't tell her that, it doesn't really matter, because that truth is still mine!
I am overcoming the loss of her and overcoming the painful twists and turns therapy took with her at the end....but in an irony, I am able to overcome that in part because of the strength/resilience she helped me see I had.....
No one really needs to respond to this.....a lot of my posts about T1 are just me working toward a fuller peace and insight and healing from my experience with her and it helps me to move forward, not forget her but forgive her and myself, to let go of the pain and hold on to the love....so thanks for bearing with me!
(((((((spiritrunner)))))))!!!

I love this and I needed to read it today.

I love that underneath your pain, you can still feel and BELIEVE IN the love.
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Old Apr 03, 2012, 08:47 AM
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(((((((spiritrunner)))))))!!!

I love this and I needed to read it today.

I love that underneath your pain, you can still feel and BELIEVE IN the love.
thank you for posting this .... I'm glad to know you read it and understood with your heart what is in mine.
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