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Old Aug 12, 2013, 08:25 AM
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When I first started going to T and found this forum, I must admit that I thought it was weird that people hugged, held hands, even let their T hold them. Seemed very unprofessional to me. Now that I am a year and a half into therapy I can see where contact like this with our Ts could be a therapeutic tool. I could see how a hug from my T, who sits with me week after week, and helps in my road to healing could be good for me.

Just recently T and I visited the site of a trauma I had as a child. One of the feelings that came out of that day was the need for somebody to come up to little healed and hug her and say is everything alright? I still long for that everyday. I could see T being somebody that could say that to me and then hug me and how healing that would be for me. I do believe there is room for contact like that in T. T and I have never talked about hugs, I have to admit that he kind of leaned into me one day as we were talking and it freaked me out, so I doubt I will be asking for a hug anything soon. However, I now see where there is place for stuff like this in therapy now.. and by seeing your stories I am glad some of you have Ts who hug you!
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 09:01 AM
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I think it depends a lot on HOW they touch you. It shouldn't be threatening, invasive, unwanted, or in any way sexual.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 09:39 AM
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My exT and i would hug at the end of session, it kind of made me feel like everything was ok and a bit like a reward for getting to the end of the session. She was also the only other person (outside of my husband) and only other female that i got hugs from ever.

This new T doesn't hug i don't think, and i don't feel like it's something i want from her either.
But i think touch is hugely healing especially for many clients who are touch deprived. We are relational beings we need connection to survive and if we aren't getting that in our lives it's no wonder so many of us are in real trouble.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 12:16 PM
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My T started out by saying he was hugging me or holding my hand in his mind. "In my mind, I just gave you a big hug." "I hold your hand such a lot in here, in my mind." The first time I had any actual physical contact with him, I regressed to a fairly young state and he held my hand.

Sometime after that, I told him how, when I was a kid, I always used to wish someone would ask how I was and give me a hug. Later in the session, he asked: "What do you need?" and I said I needed something I'd mentioned earlier but he couldn't give it to me. He said: "Why do you think I can't give you a hug?" I said nothing but it kind of sank into my brain.

A few weeks later, he went on a break. He held my hand again in the last part of the session, and then when the time was up I didn't want to go. I kind of froze, not wanting to move. Then I said: "Maybe you could give me a hug?" and he said: "Oh, well that's easy," and did.

The next time I asked him for a hug, he made me spend ages talking it. Why did I want a hug? What did I want from it? And he asked me all these questions about exactly how I wanted to be hugged. Since then, I've asked for a hug a few times, and asked him to hold my hand. He has only ever done these things when I've asked.

Last session, for example, I commented on how my hand was in a weird position. I said: "Um, so this is me wanting you to hold my hand and not wanting to ask." T said: "So what are you going to do about that then?" I said: "Drop passive aggressive hints?" Then I asked him in a tiny little whisper and he took my hand, but he waited until I'd asked.

The best, most healing hug he ever gave me was when I was really mad at him, I was threatening to quit therapy, it was the end of the session and I needed him to do something, anything, to fix it. And he said: "Well, you can let go of this sh_t with me and see that I love you." I said: "How do I know that." He said: "Smell the truth!" I said: "Well, come within smelling distance then!" And he hugged me and rocked me. I didn't want to let go. Normally I'm the one who lets go, I'm not sure quite why that is.

I have no idea how this is affecting me outside therapy. I think it just generally adds to my ability to feel cared for and contained, I suppose.
sounds like you have the BEST T, tinyrabbit!
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Now I sit on a different couch, always with her, usually squashed against her body with her arm around me or my head on her shoulder. (She is the greatest for letting me do this.)

oh that would be amazing. i get hugs....good hugs at the end everytime. i went to a week long trauma retreat twice that T put on and there a few times she sat next to me with her arm around me in a very maternal way and its was so comforting. i know a lot of people would say that it would cause dependent behavior and not productive.....but i dont have a good relationship with my mom and never did and i really click with my T in that way but also am very aware of the boundaries and limitations on our relationship..i know it will only exist in that room......so knowing that I could get that comfort and nurturing from her in that way...that it would be there if i needed it......that would be amazing. i could relax in that. all girls/women need a mother figure in their life.

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Old Aug 12, 2013, 12:46 PM
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Hugs? Ha. We once high fived though...
Same here. For those of who you've been hugged, is your T the same or opposite sex?....Maybe I should ask that in another thread.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 12:47 PM
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Opposite sex.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 03:15 PM
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Part of the reason it works for me is because my therapist is female and so am I. There isa ton of maternal transference in there, for sure. There is no way on this green earth I would ever allow a male therapist to hold me, hug me, or even come near me. I would honestly never even consider HAVING a male therapist, or any other kind of male provider for that matter....no doctor, dentist, eye doctor, massage therapist, nurse practitioner, accupunturist, etc, etc, etc. No way, no how. But that's just me!
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 03:25 PM
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Part of the reason it works for me is because my therapist is female and so am I. There isa ton of maternal transference in there, for sure. There is no way on this green earth I would ever allow a male therapist to hold me, hug me, or even come near me. I would honestly never even consider HAVING a male therapist, or any other kind of male provider for that matter....no doctor, dentist, eye doctor, massage therapist, nurse practitioner, accupunturist, etc, etc, etc. No way, no how. But that's just me!
Do you mind me asking why you feel so strongly against ANY male dr, or is that too personal? Most of the best drs I have had are male. (Not to sound sexist about it when I say that...I am not opposed to females as drs at all, and my neurologist, optometrist, and gyno are female...except I won't have a female T. Ever. Bad experiences.)
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 03:28 PM
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The first therapist I ever saw (a woman - I only see women) (and she was straight and a year or two older than my mother) - hugged me at the end of appointments. I don't quite know why and I did not find it useful or healing or reassuring. She asked me to try letting it happen and so I did. I don't think I ever hugged back or anything. It was just sort of awkward but not seriously awful or anything. I would not let the one I see now hug me, but she has assured me she does not touch clients. Of course then she later told me that some clients (unlike me) like her so much they hug her. I think she has short term memory loss.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 03:32 PM
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Do you mind me asking why you feel so strongly against ANY male dr, or is that too personal? Most of the best drs I have had are male. (Not to sound sexist about it when I say that...I am not opposed to females as drs at all, and my neurologist, optometrist, and gyno are female...except I won't have a female T. Ever. Bad experiences.)
Reasonable question and of course you can ask! Basically it's just the past....rearing its ugly head! However, in my profession, I work with doctors all day long, and it's generally a peaceful coexistence. I just feel safer with women when it comes to personal issues.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 06:20 PM
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Those of you who have Ts who hold your hand and/or hold you, maybe even tell you she/he loves you in a good way, please consider how blessed you are. Really, take in that love, appreciate what you have and savior it. I really mean it. You are very lucky people. I want it, need it, so bad that just reading this forum hurts so much. Why do I read it then? Hopes and dreams I guess.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 06:25 PM
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Those of you who have Ts who hold your hand and/or hold you, maybe even tell you she/he loves you in a good way, please consider how blessed you are. Really, take in that love, appreciate what you have and savior it. I really mean it. You are very lucky people. I want it, need it, so bad that just reading this forum hurts so much. Why do I read it then? Hopes and dreams I guess.
I am really sorry for your pain, Healingchild, and I hope one day you can get what you need and want. You are very right; those of us who have therapists who will hug us as we are comfortable, are incredibly blessed. I wish that for you, too.
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 07:25 PM
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Those of you who have Ts who hold your hand and/or hold you, maybe even tell you she/he loves you in a good way, please consider how blessed you are. Really, take in that love, appreciate what you have and savior it. I really mean it. You are very lucky people. I want it, need it, so bad that just reading this forum hurts so much. Why do I read it then? Hopes and dreams I guess.
I'm really sorry to hear you're feeling this way. Can you talk to your T about it?
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Old Aug 12, 2013, 11:53 PM
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No I can't talk to my T about it. In fact today I told my T I want a new T. (full story under self-parenting forum topic). Even if I had a good T I would be terrified to ask. I find this website very empowering so may be some day.
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Old Aug 13, 2013, 03:50 AM
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My t hugs me sometimes, at first I was like wtf
But now I kind of like them. She doesn't always do it and I don't ask. I think they are more for her than me as she usually gives them if I bring her a present or tell her her new hair do is pretty.
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Old Aug 14, 2013, 02:37 AM
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My t hugs me sometimes, at first I was like wtf
But now I kind of like them. She doesn't always do it and I don't ask. I think they are more for her than me as she usually gives them if I bring her a present or tell her her new hair do is pretty.
Yeah, the two hugs I've gotten I think she wanted to hug me because she was scared for me. Maybe she'd do it more if I seemed more comfortable.
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Old Aug 14, 2013, 07:57 AM
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I find this topic very very confusing. I had a T that hugged A LOT. and I loved it. So did others. And it felt good. and I thought it was therapeutic. Then stuff happened and now I see another T. He doesn't hug. He will touch if I am very upset.

I miss the hugs, and I wonder if they made me feel dependent. I do feel very connected with the new T
(who doesn't hug) and find myself learning how to be better at self-care.

I wonder if the hugging, which felt wonderful and therapeutic, put limits on my growth? I wonder how it would have played out if T had continued
(it got short-circuited in a very untherapeutic way by the T). I wonder if the hugging contriubted to the short-circuiting (T denied it was). I wonder if T hugged because it met her needs? And I remember that I loved it although it was a little uncomfortable.

One thing my hugging T didn't do was talk about it the way your T talks to you. I think that is very important. I wonder why she didn't talk about it - it's not like I didn't comment on how hugging felt.

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Old Sep 08, 2013, 02:59 PM
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Those of you who have Ts who hold your hand and/or hold you, maybe even tell you she/he loves you in a good way, please consider how blessed you are. Really, take in that love, appreciate what you have and savior it. I really mean it. You are very lucky people. I want it, need it, so bad that just reading this forum hurts so much. Why do I read it then? Hopes and dreams I guess.
Thank You for your post. I wasn't going to post on this thread. I was reading it to see how normal these things are. My T does ALL those things. She hugs me at every apt I will let her and has told me more the once that she loves me. She has been more of a mother to me in the past year and a half then I've had my entire 38 years. Here's the kicker. I DO LOVE THAT SHE IS SO AFFECTIONATE WITH ME. But, I WANT TO HATE IT!!!! As comforting as it is, it makes me feel vulnerable too. She is not perfect but she is the perfect T for me.
Thanks for making me appreciate her that much more and thank you for helping me to love it more then hate it. If that makes sense.

I send you HUGE HUGS!!!!!! I hope someday that you connect with someone in that way. My T is the only one for me.
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Old Sep 08, 2013, 04:26 PM
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My T does ALL those things. She hugs me at every apt I will let her and has told me more the once that she loves me. She has been more of a mother to me in the past year and a half then I've had my entire 38 years. Here's the kicker. I DO LOVE THAT SHE IS SO AFFECTIONATE WITH ME. But, I WANT TO HATE IT!!!! As comforting as it is, it makes me feel vulnerable too. She is not perfect but she is the perfect T for me.
I second that! I want to hate it but I love, love, love all the affection I get from my therapist, and I look forward to it constantly. It is amazing how physical safety can go hand in hand with vulnerability! But not the scary kind...the kind that makes you remember you're alive, and why it's so beautiful.
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Old Sep 08, 2013, 04:41 PM
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Hmm, reading this thread is making me imagine for the first time how it would feel to be hugged by a female T. I think I would like that. Like many of you, I think that I would also fear it - being that vulnerable to another woman and really opening myself up to her nurturing me. My abuser was my mother, so that makes sense.

I have a male T now and don't think he would hug me. Even though I find him attractive (or perhaps especially because of that), I don't want his touch. I think it would instantly feel sexual and that's the opposite of where I want to go. He has formulated the goal of having me internalize that he loves and cares for me in a non-sexual way, which is something I haven't experienced much from men. I am definitely on board with that goal.
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Old Sep 08, 2013, 05:18 PM
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I've only had one hug from my T, and that was at the last session before we parted for what I hope will be only a 4 month separation. It was very, very nice. The best part was that she let me be the first to let go, and held on to me for a few more moments before it was over. We have super tight boundaries (my need), so that connection was lovely.
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Old Sep 08, 2013, 05:45 PM
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My current T is the only one who ever touched me except for one of my former Ts who hugged me at our last session. I always wished for a T to hold me but didn't think it would happen. When I started seeing my T over 3 years ago, she said that she hugs clients, but I didn't want one. I was never much into hugging because we didn't hug much in my family, and I didn't like it when my friends hugged me. I felt smothered when my H hugged me.

What I did like in therapy with my current T was holding her hand. She offered to hold the "child part's" hand when I timidly said she wanted to be held. The worst part of therapy was when my T decided that it wasn't good for me to hold her hand. That hurts.

I let her hug me but it felt awkward for a long time because I was conscious of her thinness (yes, that again) and because it just felt weird. However, I got over the awkwardness and now I like the hugs a lot! We now hug after every session. A few times I have come in, like last session, and asked if I can hug her before I sit down. She always lets me. I don't worry about the logistics of it anymore. It's about the emotions and feels good.

Hugging my T has carried over into RL. My H and I hug, and I hug women friends. I've become a hugger!
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Old Sep 08, 2013, 05:59 PM
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This mixes me up inside. Don't know why.
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Old Sep 08, 2013, 06:16 PM
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I would love to get a hug from my current therapist but she seems to not want any physical contact with me, in fact when we are walking into the room she always stays quite a distance from me almost as to make sure we don't come into contact at all. That being said this is all pure speculation on my part, if I am really in need of a hug I might ask her for one but I am really not in any immediate need right now.
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