Feeling a little bit uncomfortable?

LOL, appeal to authority, that was cute. And did you just say that cannabis causes loss of sperm? God damn that was a good one, his the idiot bone right on the stop. Ahhh, good times.

I never said it was a conspiracy. I said it was poor science. Read what I said. Read the data. Show me where I am wrong. But you won't. You tell me your old which, in your eyes, makes you wise, and expect to care about that insignificant fact? Tell me why and how it is not purely correlational and I'll believe you. But you won't cause 'you've been around the block' and don't have to answer direct questions with real answers.

It will probably go legal eventually, it will just be taxed to death

I enjoy pot on occasion. Three or four times a year. I believe it will become legal. Actually the therapists I see both have been known to tell me to smoke a joint at times where my insomnia gets really bad.

Well, I'm around Indie's age, and don't have a dog in this fight as I just don't like pot, especially as smoked. But I can say that correlation is not the same as causation, and the two are often confused in poor reporting. I have seen studies that suggest that very heavy pot usage in young males--especially over a long period of time--lead to a lowering of sperm count and motility. I'm not aware of any studies that have been lengthy enough to address whether those changes are permanent or temporary. I would suspect that the age of the man would be a factor.

And anything smoked (inhaled) carries a somewhat similar cancer risk, whether it's pot, tobacco, or herbal cigarettes.

No one should be driving under the influence of anything, legal or not.

Well, one indisputable fact about pot is that it is illegal. You can go to jail, or at least acquire a criminal record for just having it and that's whether you agree with the law or not.

It's there.

Marijuana does a lot of things, and there are several cannaboids in the pharmaceutical pipeline right now - for pain, nausea, anorexia etc... Should be a lot safer, and likely cheaper.

But for now, it's a risk benefit thing and if it were me, I would have to consider the fact that feeling better right now might not be worth the long term legal consequences of doing so.

I consider using pot like drinking alcohol. I like that it is grown, and then taken care of by me. Once pharmaceutical companies become involved I would not use their product. I don't think they are safer or better in any way.

Correct. It has the potential to impair judgment, affect the welfare and safety of the person using it and those who may encounter them while they are under the influence, create consequences personally, socially, and professionally that might be difficult to overcome, become addictive for a certain segment of the population who indulges in it, create legal problems because of various factors, result is health consequences, etc. Just like alcohol.

Personally, I am not willing to accept the risks. Some people are. Not a great decision in my opinion, but it is their life I suppose. I just wish to not have to cross their path while they are under the influence.

Responsible use of any substance would seem prudent. Whether prescription, pharmaceutical, alcohol, pot etc. I personally would not drink at work any more than I would smoke pot at work. I know that drugs manufactured by drug companies, while legal, often have awful and risky side effects that I consider to be not worth the risk. It is certainly up to a person who has been prescribed a drug to decide whether to take it or not. I find most prescription medications not worth the risk. I don't want to run into someone operating heavy farm machinery who has taken a prescribed drug that can influence coordination etc any more than someone who has been drinking or smoking. I do not see that drug companies know what they are doing to any great extent, I have participated in cases where such trust in them has wrought havoc and misfortune upon those who did place their faith in them, and I do not consider their product better or safer than pot or alcohol. And I certainly don't find any reason to have more confidence in the FDA or an md than in my own garden.

Pot use has gone up but schizophrenia has remained stable, is believed to be mostly genetic.

But this psychiatrist/therapist has to go; he sounds too interested in his own agenda and getting p*s*y? Not someone I would be interested in trying to work with.

I agree with most of what the others are saying here! I've been through a lot of what you've described and that T of yours gives me a bad feeling. I wouldn't take the anti-d's yet, my friend. I've tried many of them and had awful side effects from them all. As for the weed, I think just because it's illegal right now doesn't mean a dam thing in my book! They have yet to prove that has any links to accidents like alcohol and other street drugs, and presc. drugs. It's actually helpful at times, for nausea, headaches, and anxiety. Different things for different folks but only you know what works for you and if your skeptical about trying a new drug, you need to voice this to your T because that is what they need to hear from you. Be honest with them and mostly with yourself! Best of luck!

Okay, so the latest session I had he calmed down a little, but he still talked about Meds more than I'd like, if he keeps that up I don't think i can stay. He still hasn't tried to give me any tools to do anything. He keeps on saying I need to go to the gym even though I already told him I was exercising at home. He hasn't told me anything I didn't already know about myself. I just don't get it. And he's been asking me the exact same questions over and over again. And I found out the reason he is so stuck up on drugs is because he is trying to write a book on it and he thinks he has a 'unique' style of approaching the problem, which sounds like pretentious crap, but whatever.I just don't feel he's going to start trying to help me until I take meds. This tues will be the day when I decide whether to continue or not, if he doesn't do his job of assisting me this time I think it may be time to leave, what do you guys think?

Also, he keeps on telling me he can help me but doesn't do anything in that direction, I'm confused to how he is helping me. It may just be my lack of experience with therapy.

This last session confused me and has kind of upset me. He is persistent on the Medication issue, yet has yet to offer a constructive way for me to alleviate my obsessional thoughts or anything else he keeps on pointing out and I keep telling him about. I'm a 100 percent sure he dosed off at least twice, and when I said I have a hard time talking to people and feel very uncomfortable he said how am I supposed to break out of this social anxiety if I don't talk to people and I was just sitting there like, this is where your supposed to come in. Basically he told to just talk to people, I was just thinking great, because I definitely didn't think about that. I'm just stressed about this whole thing.

Truly, at best he sounds like a poor fit.

Should I confront him? What should I do?

And the reason I do not want to take meds is that I feel once I get off them I will resort back to my old ways because I still won't know how to deal with my depressive episodes and emotions when they are in full effect, and I'd rather learn how to cope while being depressed, so I can actually implement new behaviors to change my perspective. I'm not sure of others experience, but I am under the impression that SSRI's only boost serotonin levels while under its influence, but once you cease taking the doesn't your brain return to its normal, depressed state? Correct me if I am wrong, I'd really like to know.

Actually this is not true. Science has shown a correlation between pot smokers and schizophrenia, however a correlation is not the same as causation. And the % of pot smokers with schizophrenia is not that high. Most doctors (including Sanjay Gupta) admit, it's likely that being a schizophrenic makes you more likely to choose to smoke pot, just as having any mental illness increases the likelihood you'll be prone to addiction, and use drugs. If pot actually caused schizophrenia, it would happen in more than .1% of pot smokers. Did you know that 90% of schizophrenics smoke cigarettes though?! That actually is a fact.

Reefer Madness movie came out in the 60's too. A lot has changed since then.


Pot doesn't cause cancer, just like natural tobacco doesn't cause cancer. Cigaretts however are sprayed with toxic chemicals to make them more addictive, those are carciniogenic. Also nicotine inhibits the cells your body uses to fight off bad or mutating cells, which is why cigaretts cause cancer. You also can't OD on pot. Pot has been shown to be non-addictive, there is no possible physical addiction, but you can form a habit and a mental addiction to it.

Drinking is definitely generally worse than pot. People die from alcohol poisoning all the time, and alcohol can be physically addictive... an alcoholic could have a seizure and die if they don't get enough to drink. Pot can only impair you so much, and in my experience drinking can impair you to the point of blackout, stupor, coma, etc. None of which happen with pot.

I'm not saying pot's great. I think drugs are better not to be taken in general. But I do think it's safer than cigarettes and alcohol. I also don't want my tax dollars going to arrest some guy that's smoking a joint, because I don't see anything wrong with it.

I love you.

Also, he said he wanted to be the father figure in my life, and that freaked me out because I don't feel I need a father figure and I think it's pretty presumptuous to try to force that kind of relationship.

Good morning,

Colorado just legalized recreational marijuana. It is going to be taxed at 25%. There has been medical marijuana available for about 4 years. The tax on it is not nearly that high.

Sabra