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Old Mar 04, 2014, 10:20 PM
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It's funny, things I see as mistakes and things he sees as mistakes are not always the same.

He tells me if he feels he wronged me or therapeutically made a mistake -- he doesn't do that often IMO
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Old Mar 04, 2014, 11:40 PM
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What types of mistakes are we talking about??

The only mistake that I have noticed is once in the almost 6 years we have been working together she double booked herself. She has her own business and does all her schedule. She apologized repeatedly. I told her not to worry about it. I live about 1 1/2 miles from her office and told her I would be back for a later appointment. I figure I double book myself all the time so why could I be upset that she accidentally did.

The only other time that I can think of her apologizing was when I was in a really bad space but never told her how bad things were. So she didn't know until something bad happened. But she kept apologizing for not seeing it...it wasn't her fault that I was keeping my mask on even when with her.
I think my T meant mistakes in treatment, not something like scheduling. But I really don't know what she meant. I remember my first T telling me the same thing once. She said "I missed the boat with you sometimes." I also remember her, my first T, saying that after she got help from a supervisor, she was more able to deal with "that material". That material was my thoughts about wanting to hurt her, which she said made her "crazy". Having her tell me that didn't help me at all, obviously.

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Oh Rainbow, I hope its OK with you if I send you a huge hug. I know how hard this is, to come to the realisation that the only person who can 'cure' yourself, is yourself. It's painful. I remember that realisation happening to me about a year ago.

I used to be convinced that my T (and a previous T) just needed to wave their magic wand, give me some pills, and hey presto, i'd be 'fixed'. And that the only reason I wasn't 'fixed' was because they didn't want to wave that wand for me, because they didn't like me enough

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Thank you VERY much for the big hug!!! Yes, it's painful even though I've known the truth for a long time. I feel it now, though.

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My therapist doesn't have to tell me when he makes mistakes, I point them out for him.
Thanks! Is he okay with that?

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Yes, I would respect her more if she admitted it, and then we worked through it.
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If it was me, yes, I'd definitely want to know. And I'd definitely ask.

Things like this, imo, are part of the therapy itself. Working through the acceptance and forgiveness, the honesty of admission; the intimacy. The bond that stays intact through good times and bad.

My T admitted a couple of things to me...we worked through it and our bond was stronger afterwards.

Are you going to ask her? Might it be hard not to given that she already brought up the issue?

I think your T telling you this is a sign of maturity/growth of the relationship. Truly.

edit: I didn't see page 2 before I replied. I see you are scared to ask her. What would be the worst that could happen (if you want to say)?
Thank you. I just don't WANT her to have made mistakes with me. I trusted her so much, for 4 years, and to hear her say she made mistakes (unless they are minor things) upsets me and makes me a little angry, too.

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Is there a difference between "mistakes" and things that just don't help? Maybe it's just semantics, but my T has apologized when she has said or done something that wasn't helpful. Or she's just acknowledged that it isn't helpful to me and hasn't done it again.

Mistakes seem like something else to me-- in part because I don't think psychotherapy is a science, so it's not like someone put the wrong food in the rat's cage or anything. I'm not sure there are mistakes in psychotherapy like that.

But I also think that my T's mistakes or misfires or bad landings or whatever are not really the substance of my therapy that moves me forward. She might make 100 mistakes, that doesn't mean that I'm making progress. She might make no mistakes, that still doesn't mean I'm making progress. Progress is based on what I do, not what she does. Labeling what she said or did a mistake does not help me move forward. If anything, it focuses me on her behavior, which does not help me do better myself.
That is a very good answer; thank you. You're right. What matters is what I do, not what my T has done right or wrong. She's been good for me, more often than not, no matter what mistakes she made. She probably does mean that there are things she did that were less helpful to me than other things she did.
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It's funny, things I see as mistakes and things he sees as mistakes are not always the same.

He tells me if he feels he wronged me or therapeutically made a mistake -- he doesn't do that often IMO
Yes, like I do not think holding my hand was a mistake. I don't think doing EMDR was a mistake either. Making promises she couldn't keep didn't help me, so that may be what she meant. I think that's a mistake.
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Old Mar 07, 2014, 12:12 AM
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I couldn't stand the unsettled feelings anymore so I emailed my T the concerns I have about her making mistakes. I also told her MY big mistakes that I feel bad about. Now I feel better because she will know what's on my mind before I see her. I'm still anxious about what mistakes she thinks she made. Are they the ones I know about, or something else entirely? What if she doesn't want to tell me?

It seems like I'm tying things up with my T to get ready for termination, but I'm not. Like I wrote, "I'm not ready to give her up yet." Seeing her every 2 weeks gives me time to see what is important to me, what's left to work on. I still have unresolved feelings about her divorce. I don't know if they are real or transference. We did talk about it, but something is still bothering me and I don't know exactly what it is.
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Old Mar 07, 2014, 12:43 AM
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My T has told me she's made mistakes, mostly small ones. For example, she has said she is proud of me for accomplishing certain things, and apparently from what she has said, that's a major no-no in the therapy world because it sets expectations that clients will feel they have to meet. I actually like being told that she is proud of me, but I can also see how it could go wrong.

Another one was that we were talking about something sensitive, and she didn't pick up on how I was responding to it. That caused a rupture that we had to work out the next session. But that was more misattunement than a blatant mistake.

Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head that we've discussed.
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