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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:21 AM
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I feel like I'd be more comfortable and open if I went to an appointment drunk just to give it a shot. I wouldn't get that drunk, just enough to feel it and I get a ride to my appointments so I won't be driving or anything. I think it would be a good thing to try once.

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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:28 AM
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do you take any meds?
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:28 AM
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I think perhaps you could discuss it with your T first. "Drunk" to me implies quite a lot of alcohol, but there are degrees of intoxication, of course. I have said to my T that I wish I could have a beer before my appointment - that would not make me drunk, not even close, only slightly more relaxed. My T has said that as long as I don't show up intoxicated, and don't make a habit of it, he would have no problems with that, but since I have a morning appointment before I go to work, it's not an option.

So your T might be fine with it - but then again, maybe not, and it's much better to discuss it before you do it, I think.
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:39 AM
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do you take any meds?
I'm in the process of stopping taking prozac. I think Thursday is my last day. I used to take abilify and then geodon but stopped those.
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:43 AM
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I think perhaps you could discuss it with your T first. "Drunk" to me implies quite a lot of alcohol, but there are degrees of intoxication, of course. I have said to my T that I wish I could have a beer before my appointment - that would not make me drunk, not even close, only slightly more relaxed. My T has said that as long as I don't show up intoxicated, and don't make a habit of it, he would have no problems with that, but since I have a morning appointment before I go to work, it's not an option.

So your T might be fine with it - but then again, maybe not, and it's much better to discuss it before you do it, I think.
I think I'll go to my next appointment sober and then I'll start over the appointment after that by showing up after drinking a little.
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:48 AM
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I might end up doing that at my appointment on St. Patty's Day (which is next Monday).
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 08:54 AM
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I don't think it is personally safe to go to a therapist in an impaired state -- although the one I see suggested I drink or get a friend to give me a pill (this particular therapist seems to believe everyone takes abilify or xanax) before going to an appointment to help with the enormous anxiety I deal with in going to the therapist appointment.
She also said clients come in stoned or drunk all the time. I don't think it surprises them although some of them seem to handle it better than others.
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 09:01 AM
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I don't think it is personally safe to go to a therapist in an impaired state -- although the one I see suggested I drink or get a friend to give me a pill (this particular therapist seems to believe everyone takes abilify or xanax) before going to an appointment to help with the enormous anxiety I deal with in going to the therapist appointment.
What do you think might happen if you took a Xanax before going?
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 09:05 AM
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I have never taken a xanax for anything so I don't know what one would do to me.
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 09:06 AM
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I come to every appointment with a coffee. It's become a little pre-session ritual. Sometimes I think it'd be interesting to spike it but I won't ever do it
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 09:23 AM
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I came intoxicated a couple times. I thought it might help me open up, but it actually just helped me to disassociate, which is probably why I use substances in the first place. I tried Xanax with better results, but still nothing stellar. I might try Xanax again...
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 09:24 AM
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I think going to an appointment drunk (or even just a little tipsy) is not a good idea. It somehow defies the meaning of the appointment. Being drunk doesn't mean you are more yourself, despite what people say about someone speaking the truth when he's drunk. Being drunk means you alter your state artificially, you lose control over your real you and the real feelings you may have about something. But in therapy THAT is the important thing - to explore your real feelings, not something you induced. What good would it do? It would probably prompt your T to talk to you about why you came to the appointment drunk. It would get you into a topic that might defer from what you are actually seeking from your therapy. If that is what you want though, then the better way would be to tell your therapist about the idea of coming to an appointment drunk. You would have the same result.
How much value do you expect to get out of an appointment you pay for when you might not even be in a state to actually learn from it? I am sorry, to me this seems like not such a great idea. But then again, I think getting drunk at any time is a bad idea anyway.
If you know you have a problem of talking properly or openly in an appointment and you think being drunk might make that easier.. you already have the sense of what your problem is. So it's better to try to work on it than find an inappropriate workaround.

Also, I know a T who terminated with a client because he came to the appointment drunk a couple of times. After initially trying to talk to the client about their reasons for doing that and failing at getting a response, she referred him to someone who is specialized in working with clients who have a problem with substance abuse.

It could be a very bad choice.
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I did not find talking to the woman about appointment anxiety to help at all. She was quite dismissive even though I threw up before each appointment and shook all the way through the appointment most of the time. I have now. after 4 years, figured out how to control the shaking and I do not throw up every time anymore, but the solution, while not drugs or alcohol, would not be one she would recommend. I gave up talking to her about it.
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I think it depends on amount of whatever ingested, and intention for it. Being incoherent is pointless and probably reflects a dysfunctional intention that would be better addressed directly.

But ingesting just enough to decrease anxiety and inhibition on an occasional basis isn't necessarily a waste of therapy time, disrespectful (I would not do this without prior discussion), nor dysfunctional. Let's remember that some of the most enthusiastic proponents (and researchers) of LSD were psych practitioners. I think some generational thinking has been overly influenced by the "war on drugs."
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 10:14 AM
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did that, was transported to detox, ymmv.
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Old Mar 11, 2014, 10:29 AM
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I don't think it is personally safe to go to a therapist in an impaired state -- although the one I see suggested I drink or get a friend to give me a pill (this particular therapist seems to believe everyone takes abilify or xanax) before going to an appointment to help with the enormous anxiety I deal with in going to the therapist appointment.
She also said clients come in stoned or drunk all the time. I don't think it surprises them although some of them seem to handle it better than others.
If I do go out drinking before my appointment on Monday it will be no more than 1 or 2 drinks.
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