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Old Jun 08, 2014, 10:34 AM
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Eye contact is a sign of aggression. T and you are trying to assert your dominance over each other.
It's taken as a sign of aggression by dogs, yes! Not necessarily by humans. It would depend on the context.
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Old Jun 08, 2014, 10:43 AM
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I would rather the woman be aggressive than endure her attempts at empathy.
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Old Jun 08, 2014, 11:23 AM
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When I make prolonged eye contact it is aggressive on my end.
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Old Jun 08, 2014, 02:47 PM
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As others have said, eye contact is an important part of relating to another human being. Even if we can't look at our Ts, we don't want them to sit there and ignore us and not see us. I have found it helps to put sunglasses on so I can look at my T without feeling intimidated. I still find it hard, though. It's kind of like looking at the sun. I wish I could do it more. Because he never looks how I think he will, I always expect something other than the empathy and compassion I see.

There have been a few occasions when my T has pushed me to look at him so I don't imagine how he's feeling, namely when I've been convinced he's angry or rejecting me. Like when I spilled water on his carpet and got really scared and freaked out (regression, transference, whatever). He told me I really needed to look at him and it was scary but I did it. And saw my T looked kind, compassionate and not a bit angry. It was like turning on the light, looking under the bed and seeing there was no monster.
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Old Jun 08, 2014, 03:01 PM
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I hate making eye contact with him, because I feel it is way too revealing to what goes on in my head. I like to have control on when and what way to say things. Sometimes my eyes can give me away, unfortunately. He definitely makes more eye contact with me than I do with him.

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Old Jun 08, 2014, 08:55 PM
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Interesting variety of responses. I think that the intimate prolonged eye contact is something I miss the most in the year and a half since she moved away. Can't get that over the phone!! But I still feel our connection, we can be on the phone and neither of us talking, and we both feel our connection.
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Old Jun 08, 2014, 10:20 PM
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I love their unwavering eye contact. One time, I was having a particularly hard session and I just stared directly into their eyes, it was almost painful because it was like 30 seconds or longer, and we just sat there in silence, and in my head I kept pleading 'please just help me, help me, don't you see it in my eyes'...but they never did understand so now to this day I feel embarrassed.
But one of my Ts explained that they are taught how to be comfortable in silence
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Old Jun 10, 2014, 02:31 PM
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My T's eyes are what get me. She stares and it makes it easy to tell her stuff. Sometimes I get a sinking feeling in my chest. Maybe where all my feelings are hiding?
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 06:24 PM
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I'm struggling a lot with eye contact in therapy. I don't have a problem with it in the "real world..." I find that in therapy lately I can only look at my T while he's talking to me, and then I look at my hands or the empty chair while I'm talking. It makes me feel kind of rude and awkward. I guess the best way to improve it would be to... talk about it with him!
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Old Jun 17, 2014, 06:26 PM
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I'm struggling a lot with eye contact in therapy. I don't have a problem with it in the "real world..." I find that in therapy lately I can only look at my T while he's talking to me, and then I look at my hands or the empty chair while I'm talking. It makes me feel kind of rude and awkward. I guess the best way to improve it would be to... talk about it with him!
I do that often, too. I don't think it's rude though. I think it is what it is I've worked on it but it's a process for me.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 03:39 AM
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It depends on the session and topic for me. I used to never make eye contact, I started gradually when I started to trust her. Now we usually have some moments where we look at each other in silence for some seconds - 4, 5, never 30 lol - and it is very intense. I am starting to do it also after sharing something "big" to sort of check her reaction (this one is so difficult). I like it though, because I find it reassuring and I haven't caught any judgmental look so far. it makes me feel deeply connected.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 05:43 AM
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I can look at her face or her eyes for a few seconds. Only just. Then I will spend the rest of the session looking at her feet!!!
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 08:41 AM
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So I know that a lot of people struggle with eye contact in sessions... but what about the opposite?

Personally I have never had a problem with eye contact and T also makes very good eye contact... and sometimes I'll be talking and kind of lose my train of thought, and just give up.

That, or i'll say something kind of difficult and emotional...

And then T doesn't say anything. For a while we just sit there and stare into each other's eyes.

And i can see why it is too much for people... I mean, it is really intense and definitely my most vulnerable moments. It's also painful because. I mean, I often feel like I love T. And that is almost an intimate experience.

But I don't know why T does that. We never talked about it, it just happens occasionally. i swear it has gone up to 20 or 30 seconds of just sitting there, locked in that gaze... searching or something like that.

Anyone else? What does it mean?
lots of silence in my therapy. doesnt bother me. i often use the time to look into t's eyes. she HATES IT. says i cant look her in the eye unless we are talking, having a conversation, that it violates social standards.
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 09:07 AM
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I can look at her face or her eyes for a few seconds. Only just. Then I will spend the rest of the session looking at her feet!!!
Me too! I know her toes very well!
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Old Jun 18, 2014, 09:24 AM
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I could look into my therapist's eyes for the entire session and not say a word, not that it ever happens, she is the one who after a while of staring at each other eventually asks me something.

The only time I don't look her in the eye is when I'm saying something difficult and I look past her out the window.
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Old Jun 20, 2014, 11:22 AM
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I love their unwavering eye contact. One time, I was having a particularly hard session and I just stared directly into their eyes, it was almost painful because it was like 30 seconds or longer, and we just sat there in silence, and in my head I kept pleading 'please just help me, help me, don't you see it in my eyes'...but they never did understand so now to this day I feel embarrassed.
But one of my Ts explained that they are taught how to be comfortable in silence
Silence is one thing I find very hard. I made the point a few times. I explained it too. Although they have their ways of working and I do not agree with them all.
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Old Jun 20, 2014, 02:13 PM
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lots of silence in my therapy. doesnt bother me. i often use the time to look into t's eyes. she HATES IT. says i cant look her in the eye unless we are talking, having a conversation, that it violates social standards.

WTF?

The more I hear about your therapist, the less I think she's got any of her professional shitake together.

I'm a professional shoe-gazer if I don't have a sketchpad with me. I make eye contact more when I am not certain what to say, listening, or feeling vulnerable and wanting to see T's expression. Often, I'm drawing while we talk, though.
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