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Old Aug 05, 2014, 12:26 AM
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Even in the "larger war on drugs" I agree with stop dog. It is an invasion of privacy, as far as I'm concerned. And in my state you are limited as to how much you can buy a month. I find that when my asthma's bad, psuedophedrine helps. I've never hit the limit but it is an over reach of our government. No I'm not making meth

I see a problem with the thinking "If you aren't doing anything wrong, why would it bug you?" Just remember this the next time TSA gropes you

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Old Aug 05, 2014, 12:32 AM
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Hey you're preaching to the choir. I am an avid gun collector- and risked losing quite a bit about a year ago when senator Diane Feinstein tried (and failed) to pass a very strict gun bill.

Regardless of the topic matter- I'm with you 100% when it comes to more and more regulations. When the shoe bomber issue happened- TSA with its security lines- has cost America how many billions of dollars- as well as how many millions of hours of total time spent by all passengers. Oops. Forgot to mention- the infringement of how much privacy?

Can of worms.

But yes. I think a TSA groping is imminent. Let's just hope it's by an attractive one with soft hands. ;P
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 12:53 AM
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lol…I had an agent start grabbing at me just as I was asking "do I have a choice to refuse?" She just kept right on going
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 09:57 AM
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I don't believe that large systems are all that intelligent. Intelligence may be compounded by many bright minds working together, but dysfunction is also multiplied. I also believe that large groups inherently trend toward a power grab and toward self-profit.

Thus, I am inherently distrustful of the mental health system. It creates an "us" and a "them," to distinguish "mentally healthy doctors and scientists" from "mentally ill patients" and "people with suicide risk."

At the same time, the line between genius and mental illness is fascinating to me. Creativity and artistic expression and depression can sometimes go hand in hand.

I'm not saying that mental illness is desirable. But I do think that overly focusing on it just shifts power away from the individual and toward the mental health system.

One does not have to be a conspiracy theorist to mistrust large systems run by humans.

In my view, if someone has a genetic history is full of debilitating mental illness, that's all the clue one needs to see that one is genetically predisposed to mental illness.

If doctors want to study whether there is a suicide gene, so be it. I would not subject myself to such a test, nor would I allow my children to be tested, as I believe that allowing so would give a tiny piece of personal power away to "the system."

Such a test generates a record. It creates a file. It introduces a piece of data that can be stored and -probably never but maybe- one day used against you.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 10:02 AM
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Such a test generates a record. It creates a file. It introduces a piece of data that can be stored and -probably never but maybe- one day used against you.
Yup. And it countries with non-universal healthcare.... positive result on this test could probably ramp up your insurance.......... talk about stress levels, eh.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 12:38 PM
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I think it can be just a useful tool as a warning sign and for good self care. There are many genetic markers people already have for physical illnesses- I have a gene mutation that makes me prone to blood clotting and deep vein thrombosis- though I've never had either. I do take a baby aspirin every day however. Everyone has a genetic predisposition to something but there is that fine line between useful knowledge and having this knowledge used against you.

Plus, you can often see these "markers" for depression and anxiety very early on just by observing a person's personality type and from looking at a family history. It can depend on the person's environment as to what the outcome will be with regard to depression and SI. So while I can see the usefulness of it, I can also see that it might be too much information and and cause undo worry (not to mention troubles with insurance coverage). Sometimes too much information can be a curse.
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