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Old Nov 10, 2014, 09:15 AM
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I told my Pdoc about my breast reduction I will be having and he completely stopped me mid sentence and told me I shouldn't have it done. He thinks there is some psychological reason that I want my breasts smaller or whatever. I was pissed off! I told him my minds made up but he asked me how long ive been wanting this. I told him more than a year, but have had problems for at least 5 years...and I am only 20. So I told him I cant back out, that my insurance has agreed to pay and that has a time limit as to when I can get it done and I also confirmed a surgery date with my plastic surgeon. Anyways after I left his office, I just wanted to go get the surgery done right then and then come back and rub it in his face! Im sorry, but a 50+ yr old man, has NO business telling a 20 yr old women what to do and not to do with her body. Enough said...what are you thoughts???
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 09:23 AM
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I could not agree more with you. He was so far out of line it's not funny.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 09:38 AM
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Its not his bussiness but why do you want to make your breast smaller?

Its sexy to have nice and big boobs. I think that if you lost your weight (no matter how thin or fat you are) your breast will became smaller.
It happened to me. I lost my weight really fast and now I cry for my boobs

I have been thinking about how it would be if I did plastic surgery to make my breasts bigger but I know that it would make me feel disgusted. Okay its my problems.

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Old Nov 10, 2014, 09:42 AM
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I'd be upset too. Physical health is important too and if you're having significant pain from the weight of your breasts that can certainly affect quality of life. Best of luck to you. One thing for the therapist to discuss, another to flat say you shouldn't do it.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 09:51 AM
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Wow. Did he think that the surgery would negatively impact your psych wellbeing? Did he justify his reaction to it beyond saying he though there were psych issues in play? Ugh, he has no right to tell you not to get the surgery. I hope he does not try to step in and sabotage it for you.
Also, the only "psych" issues I can think of coming into play may be a question around transitioning, but that's totally up to you if that's part of the motivation. If that is his concern, he's clearly stuck in a time where this is seen as a concern. If he worries about how it may impact your relationship with men, he's equally stuck in the past... as a woman with a large chest and the associated issues, and not having a better reason from him as to why he objects, I can't help but agree that he's totally out of line. I probably would have sarcastically asked him if he had similar objections to implants...

Ugh. Sorry. I'm getting all sorts of pissed at him over this for you. Really though, did he give a more thorough explanation of his misgivings? I really can't think of any psych issue that would give me pause around a reduction unless you were constantly seeking out surgeries to "fix" every part of your body. It doesn't sound like that tough.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 10:01 AM
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Its not his bussiness but why do you want to make your breast smaller?

Its sexy to have nice and big boobs. I think that if you lost your weight (no matter how thin or fat you are) your breast will became smaller.
It happened to me. I lost my weight really fast and now I cry for my boobs

I have been thinking about how it would be if I did plastic surgery to make my breasts bigger but I know that it would make me feel disgusted. Okay its my problems.

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It's not sexy when you wind up with permanent grooves on your shoulders from the weight on your bra straps. Not to mention constant back pain.
I don't have this problem, thankfully enough, but I feel for those who do. The lack of understanding is appalling. It shouldn't be that hard to imagine what it might be like to spend a day or two with 20lbs or so strapped to your chest.

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Old Nov 10, 2014, 10:10 AM
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It's not sexy when you wind up with permanent grooves on your shoulders from the weight on your bra straps. Not to mention constant back pain.
I don't have this problem, thankfully enough, but I feel for those who do. The lack of understanding is appalling. It shouldn't be that hard to imagine what it might be like to spend a day or two with 20lbs or so strapped to your chest.

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Old Nov 10, 2014, 10:21 AM
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I would wait until after you are done having children(If that is what you plan) then when they are all saggy you can have a lift and a reduction done and look all perky again. If you have it done now you might not be able to breast feed and they will get stretch out from pregnancy anyway and be saggy. My sister was a 44 DD in high school and thos things are down to her knees now after 3 kids!
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 10:23 AM
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It is your body. I would not let any man tell me what to do or not do with it/for it/ or about it.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 10:24 AM
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What stopdog said, except that I would also include women in who does not get to have a say. Your body, your pain (or lack of pain), your choice.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 10:31 AM
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Yes to what everyone else said! Your body, your choice. If your insurance company is paying for it, I'm sure it's more than warranted!

On a personal note, I thought about having a lift since things aren't pretty after having two kids, and when and if I make the decision, I won't be steered by anybody else! It's about feeling good about yourself, and in your own body.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 11:11 AM
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I had a breast reduction - best thing I ever did. I wouldn't listen to your pdoc-it's really none of his business!
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 01:02 PM
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I don't think it's out of line for him to question your reasons for the surgery if they are not obvious (I didn't see you write anything about being in pain). My concern would be why you're having the surgery since it is pretty major surgery and there are some consequences (years ago you couldn't nurse a baby if you had surgery, but I don't know if this is still the case). Plus, you are very young and it is possible that your reasons for the reduction now may not be the same years down the road.

That said, he should never tell you what to do. It's your body and men need to understand that they aren't in positions to tell women what to do with them.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 04:46 PM
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Thank you all. And to answer some questions, yes they cause me a lot of discomfort and I can't even be as active as I'd like. They are about a 40DD and way too big for my small stature. I have lost weight but it has only made them sag. Way too much for a 20! So yes I medically have problems like poor posture, neck, shoulder and back pain and well they also weight maybe 15 lbs on my chest. Can't go braless, but I haven't been able to wear a normal bra since a year ago, only has wear a sport bra with underwire to hold them up! I even told Pdoc all this and he still said I needed to talk to my T more about it. But whatever I'm having this done for only me and to only make me happier and to love myself more! Mind is set! Thank you all for agreeing with me hear.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 04:59 PM
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I am surprised that a DD size is causing you so much hassle, as someone in a similar boat (cup?!) but with a smaller number.

Slightly confused - I thought that the number is your back size and the letter is the cup, so does this not mean that they won't actually be able to reduce the 40 bit down? So you will end up for example as a 40B? Or is it more an uplift than a reduction? Curious about how this kind of breast surgery works!

I absolutely agree with those saying it is your body, and no-one has the right to try to tell you what to do.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 06:40 PM
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Two of my cousins (a pair of sisters) both had breast reductions in their late teens. They were both a 34DD and had serious back issues. The younger one had scoliosis as well which exacerbated the issue. The doctor said that if their breasts had been that large because they were overweight-- and there was something they could do about it naturally through diet and exercise--- he would not have wanted to operate. But they were thin-- maybe 120 lbs-- so there simply wasn't any weight to lose. The women in our family simply have large breasts which are disproportionate to our body size. So they both had reductions and it has made a significant, positive impact on their lives. If I were any bigger than I am, I would do it also. But I'm slightly smaller than they were-- a 34D-- so I've simply learned to live with them. The size itself isn't what is so large-- it's the size on our bodies. When you're only a size 4/6 in clothes, having D or DD breasts is disproportionate. It can not only cause back pain but restrict activity, make it difficult to buy shirts/jackets, and attract unwanted attention-- especially in professional settings when you want to be taken seriously by colleagues. I think the only issue to consider would be whether the pain/restriction is solely coming from the large breasts, or whether there is a whole body weight issue. If there is a larger weight issue, a breast reduction may not solve the problem. But if a doctor has evaluated the situation and said that a breast reduction will solve the back pain and other issues, then it seems like a good option. I would put no stock in what a male P-doc is saying; sounds rude, sexist, and ignorant to me.

Interesting fact: I looked up how much a pair of 40DD breasts weigh, simply because I was curious, and they only weigh 6lbs! My 34Ds apparently only weigh 4lbs. That seems crazy. It seems like more.
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It's your body and men need to understand that they aren't in positions to tell women what to do with them.
I know you probably didn't mean it like that, but this bothers me and it sounds like you saying women can judge each other and tell each other what to do, but only men can't. From my personal experience, many women judge each other appearances too and even try to force their opinions on each other. An obvious case is a mother/daughter I know, a friend of my dad's, where the mother stopped the daughter from getting bigger breasts. The daughter was in her 20s btw, so not a child or teenager. I her case, it was "her body, but her mom's choice"...
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I know you probably didn't mean it like that, but this bothers me and it sounds like you saying women can judge each other and tell each other what to do, but only men can't. From my personal experience, many women judge each other appearances too and even try to force their opinions on each other. An obvious case is a mother/daughter I know, a friend of my dad's, where the mother stopped the daughter from getting bigger breasts. The daughter was in her 20s btw, so not a child or teenager. I her case, it was "her body, but her mom's choice"...
For me, it is different if I talk about body stuff with women -even if we disagree. Men tend to think women's bodies are for their pleasure/theirs to possess-an object. Women, in my experience, do not tend to think other women have to do or not do something to please other women.
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I, too, have breasts that are disproportionately large, given my body frame. I was heavier in my 20s and had really big breasts, but even at about 120 pounds and small clothing sizes now, I'm a 32DD. It does make clothes shopping difficult sometimes.

For anyone who can't or doesn't want to get a breast reduction, I highly, highly recommend weight training, particularly exercises focused on the back muscles. I started a few years ago, and I no longer have any issues with the back/neck pain I used to get from carrying around these boobs. I had posture issues before I started lifting weights; a year after I started, I measured a half inch taller at my doctor's office, it had improved so much. (I was 30 at the time, so I hadn't grown!)
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I, too, have breasts that are disproportionately large, given my body frame. I was heavier in my 20s and had really big breasts, but even at about 120 pounds and small clothing sizes now, I'm a 32DD. It does make clothes shopping difficult sometimes.

For anyone who can't or doesn't want to get a breast reduction, I highly, highly recommend weight training, particularly exercises focused on the back muscles. I started a few years ago, and I no longer have any issues with the back/neck pain I used to get from carrying around these boobs. I had posture issues before I started lifting weights; a year after I started, I measured a half inch taller at my doctor's office, it had improved so much. (I was 30 at the time, so I hadn't grown!)
I had the exact same experience after I started weight lifting as well!
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 07:22 PM
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I am surprised that a DD size is causing you so much hassle, as someone in a similar boat (cup?!) but with a smaller number.

Slightly confused - I thought that the number is your back size and the letter is the cup, so does this not mean that they won't actually be able to reduce the 40 bit down? So you will end up for example as a 40B? Or is it more an uplift than a reduction? Curious about how this kind of breast surgery works!

I absolutely agree with those saying it is your body, and no-one has the right to try to tell you what to do.
I actually have not been "professionally measured" but my plastic surgeon looked at them and guessed around a 40/36 DD....could be larger or smaller. The fact about their size is only partially my problems. When I was only 15 I had a serious case of Mastitis, YES Mastitis, and NO I was NOT pregnant or breastfeeding. I had to go to a breast specialist...I was only 15 and at that time my breasts were only about 34 Cs. That being said... a year ago my breasts grew in less than two months from a 34 C to around a 40DD. That being said you can image the stretch marks, hard and soft tissues and the amount of discomfort from their rapid growth. And then I started rapidly losing weight, causing them to loose breast tissues and cause extreme sag and loose skin. I am only 20 and I DONT NOT want to have my breasts sag to my bellybutton when I sit or for them to lay on my sides when I lay on my back. Another reason for the surgery is I have a strong close history of breast cancer. So I like the fact that when the surgeon does surgery he has a chance to find if their is anything wrong on my insides. Another reason for surgery is my constant pain and tenderness and tough lumps of tissues, when I say lumps I don't mean so hard its cancer, but they need to be "cleaned" out and lifted. I am having a reduction and also a lift. I only weigh 134, but I am muscular and active but I cant be as active as I used to be. And another reason for surgery is simply because I hate them, I hate how big they are, and I don't find them sexually appealing to me or anyone who loves them too, I find that a turnoff...its not about having big breasts, or looking sexy and full. Its about me loving my body again, having less issues with my breasts and being able to do a lot more than I felt comfortable doing before. I honestly don't care what size they are or how much they weigh, the fact that they give me problems and aggravate me everyday is enough reason to go under the knife. And also my two insurances approved...and they dont just approve for everyone. I am only 20, and I need to live my life happy and confidently.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 07:28 PM
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For me, it is different if I talk about body stuff with women -even if we disagree. Men tend to think women's bodies are for their pleasure/theirs to possess-an object. Women, in my experience, do not tend to think other women have to do or not do something to please other women.
Partless this is actually what I meant- StopDog said it better though

Of course I don't think women have the right to tell each other what to do, but the same comment from a female pdoc would have had a different meaning for me.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 07:30 PM
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I, too, have breasts that are disproportionately large, given my body frame. I was heavier in my 20s and had really big breasts, but even at about 120 pounds and small clothing sizes now, I'm a 32DD. It does make clothes shopping difficult sometimes.

For anyone who can't or doesn't want to get a breast reduction, I highly, highly recommend weight training, particularly exercises focused on the back muscles. I started a few years ago, and I no longer have any issues with the back/neck pain I used to get from carrying around these boobs. I had posture issues before I started lifting weights; a year after I started, I measured a half inch taller at my doctor's office, it had improved so much. (I was 30 at the time, so I hadn't grown!)
I do "real mans" work, working on my 30+ acre farm. Lifting 50+ lbs of crap, building fencing, chain sawing down trees using a 30 lb saw, splitting wood, pulling and lifting, walking/running around the land, wrestling livestock, riding horses...you name it I probably do it......hits why I do not need my breasts in the way with that kind of work! I used to weight lift when I was younger in my gym also, but I haven't gone to the gym in several months. I have always been very active since I was very young.
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Partless this is actually what I meant- StopDog said it better though

Of course I don't think women have the right to tell each other what to do, but the same comment from a female pdoc should have had a different meaning for me.
Oh. Well in that case, we disagree because I find that view sexist.

Some men refuse to see female doctors for similar reasons, that a female doctor can't comment or understand male related issues. I think the assumption here is that just because the Pdoc happens to be a man, suddenly his knowledge and expertise goes out the door and every suggestion he is making becomes that of a man at a club about to pick up the sexiest woman, not of a person trained in medicine and well aware of the various challenges women face in the society. So it becomes: Men like big breasts so that's why he is cautioning against surgery, right?
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Your T is an *** for cutting you off mid-sentence and acting like he has a say on what you do with your body.
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