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Old Mar 04, 2015, 12:04 AM
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This past week I texted "love, rainbow " to a friend who experienced a tragedy in her family. She texted back "I love you" which made me feel good as she and I never used that word before. I also reached out to other friends who need me.

T gave me homework to hold my husband's hand, which was a great idea, and helped us reconnect. A few of my friends are seriously ill now. Life is so short!

I emailed my T and wrote "I love you." She emailed back "sending love", T. I should have just written "Love, rainbow." "I love you" was a bit much but if my friend could write it to me, I can write it too. I think love is love. Not the romantic kind but the kind that says "I care about you very much." Expressing it seems appropriate. I NEVER told people I loved them in my past. Even when I did love them. My T, by expressing love to me, is helping me reach out to others in my life! I feel really good about doing this. It's real growth! I do wish T and I could sign our emails Love, T and Love, Rainbow without her using the word " sending " first. I think that's her boundary. Does it seem like that's what it is? It doesn't matter really. I'm changing and wanted to share my positive news.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 12:11 AM
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I am glad you are feeling so good about it.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 12:30 AM
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I NEVER in a million years thought my T would have been one to say "I love you." Ever. But, she has...yet for the first time, she said it as leaving today. She'd only ever written it before, in a text or Email. She said it to me while I was hugging her at the end of session.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 09:29 AM
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This past week I texted "love, rainbow " to a friend who experienced a tragedy in her family. She texted back "I love you" which made me feel good as she and I never used that word before. I also reached out to other friends who need me.

T gave me homework to hold my husband's hand, which was a great idea, and helped us reconnect. A few of my friends are seriously ill now. Life is so short!

I emailed my T and wrote "I love you." She emailed back "sending love", T. I should have just written "Love, rainbow." "I love you" was a bit much but if my friend could write it to me, I can write it too. I think love is love. Not the romantic kind but the kind that says "I care about you very much." Expressing it seems appropriate. I NEVER told people I loved them in my past. Even when I did love them. My T, by expressing love to me, is helping me reach out to others in my life! I feel really good about doing this. It's real growth! I do wish T and I could sign our emails Love, T and Love, Rainbow without her using the word " sending " first. I think that's her boundary. Does it seem like that's what it is? It doesn't matter really. I'm changing and wanted to share my positive news.
Rainbow, this is awesome! Good for you! Life IS short. Reach for those connections while you can. It IS real growth for you to reach out to those who really need your support.

Try not to worry too much about how T chooses to word "love". As you said, love is love. It may be a boundary specific to therapy, it may be her own personal boundary -- it's hard to say, as expressing love is also highly personal. But she does send love, and that's what's important.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 09:43 AM
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I'm really glad to hear your good news. Keep it up! It does sound like very real growth.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 10:35 AM
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Yay! You sound like me! I've never expressed my feelings to friends or family but will say "I love you" back. I found that when I told some friends about my therapy, they said how much more open I was to them. That, I guess, gave them "permission" or allowed them to feel more comfortable telling me their feelings towards me. It has been very eye opening/healing/etc. So, just like you, I felt if I say this to FRIENDS, why wouldn't T. fall in that category.

I remember last summer feeling in love with her but my mind never wanted to admit/say I love her. It's like it's couldn't connect the two or something. Then, about 2 months ago I left her office feeling and knowing that I loved her. It was the first time I guess my mind allowed it? Anyway, the next session I told her I loved her and then quickly looked away. She asked me why it was so hard to say. I said I don't need or expect to hear it back - I can just tell the way she looks at me. She nodded and grinned and said something about showing it vs saying it.

Yay! We've made progress! We are supposed to try out things on our T. so we can go out in the world and practice our change. For me, that means actually telling my T. my feelings without fear so telling her this was a huge step. I haven't said it since and actually went through a period of regretting it. I still haven't said it first to a friend and one friend said she can't wait for the day when I do.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 11:18 AM
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This post was so good to read! I am happy for you. I am in the throes of this right now and it is terrifying. I wish he would just come out and say he loves me. He beats around the bush every time I start walking this tightrope and than I retreat. That's it! I am putting it on the table tomorrow once and for all!
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 12:03 PM
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This is great. I have thought about how much I envy people who freely share their affection without having it be 'needy' or expecting anything back in any way. I have friends who can lay on compliments with so much ease and simple joy - it's a real gift.

In the past few years I've learned how to be more open about my admiration of friends and family and yes life is too short not to say "I see you..." "I admire ----- about you." I care about you." etc. I also have made and effort to tell someone when I notice something positive about them even if they're not a close friend ("I like your scarf," etc.)

This kind of practice is a building block of happiness. So congratulations!
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 12:07 PM
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I am glad you are feeling so good about it.
I appreciate your reply, stopdog. I know you don't want your T anywhere near you, but for me, it's therapeutic. My T is a regular person and I care about her enough to call it love. She cares about me enough to say love also. She's not made of stone, but flesh and blood, just like we all are! Her love serves as a role model for me though it's taken a long time! Yes, I feel good that I can apply what I learn from her to my real life!!

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I NEVER in a million years thought my T would have been one to say "I love you." Ever. But, she has...yet for the first time, she said it as leaving today. She'd only ever written it before, in a text or Email. She said it to me while I was hugging her at the end of session.
I'm happy for you, musinglizzy. I never thought my T would express love to me, either. She even told me that, early in therapy! People change, even Ts!

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Rainbow, this is awesome! Good for you! Life IS short. Reach for those connections while you can. It IS real growth for you to reach out to those who really need your support.

Try not to worry too much about how T chooses to word "love". As you said, love is love. It may be a boundary specific to therapy, it may be her own personal boundary -- it's hard to say, as expressing love is also highly personal. But she does send love, and that's what's important.
Yes!! Thanks, Sally. A few weeks ago I told my T about the expression " therapy love" and she liked it. But I changed my mind and told her in my email. We both know what we mean (it's not like my part who used to be IN love with her), so why not just say "love.". It's not the scary word it used to be for me. It's a beautiful word.

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I'm really glad to hear your good news. Keep it up! It does sound like very real growth.
Thank you, brillskep. Holding my husband's hand is a huge step too. We were sort of stuck but I think we're back on track now. He has a terminal illness so it's very important we work on our relationship while we can.

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Yay! You sound like me! I've never expressed my feelings to friends or family but will say "I love you" back. I found that when I told some friends about my therapy, they said how much more open I was to them. That, I guess, gave them "permission" or allowed them to feel more comfortable telling me their feelings towards me. It has been very eye opening/healing/etc. So, just like you, I felt if I say this to FRIENDS, why wouldn't T. fall in that category.

I remember last summer feeling in love with her but my mind never wanted to admit/say I love her. It's like it's couldn't connect the two or something. Then, about 2 months ago I left her office feeling and knowing that I loved her. It was the first time I guess my mind allowed it? Anyway, the next session I told her I loved her and then quickly looked away. She asked me why it was so hard to say. I said I don't need or expect to hear it back - I can just tell the way she looks at me. She nodded and grinned and said something about showing it vs saying it.

Yay! We've made progress! We are supposed to try out things on our T. so we can go out in the world and practice our change. For me, that means actually telling my T. my feelings without fear so telling her this was a huge step. I haven't said it since and actually went through a period of regretting it. I still haven't said it first to a friend and one friend said she can't wait for the day when I do.
I am so happy for both of us! I know we have some similar issues, and I agree that therapy is a place to try things out! I have been so embarrassed and afraid to express love to most people, except to my kids. That has always flowed freely. I'm still a work in progress, as my former T used to say, but I'm getting there. So are you!

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This post was so good to read! I am happy for you. I am in the throes of this right now and it is terrifying. I wish he would just come out and say he loves me. He beats around the bush every time I start walking this tightrope and than I retreat. That's it! I am putting it on the table tomorrow once and for all!
Thank you! I just want you to be aware that not all Ts will tell a client that they love them. In fact, most won't. My T used to say "I care deeply for you" but wouldn't use the word "love." She won't say "I love you" directly but she doesn't have to. I just don't want you to be hurt by semantics. Good luck tomorrow. I hope it goes well.
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 06:01 PM
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This post was so good to read! I am happy for you. I am in the throes of this right now and it is terrifying. I wish he would just come out and say he loves me. He beats around the bush every time I start walking this tightrope and than I retreat. That's it! I am putting it on the table tomorrow once and for all!
Good for you! Let us know how it unfolds.

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This past week I texted "love, rainbow " to a friend who experienced a tragedy in her family. She texted back "I love you" which made me feel good as she and I never used that word before. I also reached out to other friends who need me.

T gave me homework to hold my husband's hand, which was a great idea, and helped us reconnect. A few of my friends are seriously ill now. Life is so short!

I emailed my T and wrote "I love you." She emailed back "sending love", T. I should have just written "Love, rainbow." "I love you" was a bit much but if my friend could write it to me, I can write it too. I think love is love. Not the romantic kind but the kind that says "I care about you very much." Expressing it seems appropriate. I NEVER told people I loved them in my past. Even when I did love them. My T, by expressing love to me, is helping me reach out to others in my life! I feel really good about doing this. It's real growth! I do wish T and I could sign our emails Love, T and Love, Rainbow without her using the word " sending " first. I think that's her boundary. Does it seem like that's what it is? It doesn't matter really. I'm changing and wanted to share my positive news.
LOVE this story!! Thank you for sharing! You and your T are both very fortunate. I wish I had your courage!
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Old Mar 04, 2015, 11:55 PM
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This is great. I have thought about how much I envy people who freely share their affection without having it be 'needy' or expecting anything back in any way. I have friends who can lay on compliments with so much ease and simple joy - it's a real gift.

In the past few years I've learned how to be more open about my admiration of friends and family and yes life is too short not to say "I see you..." "I admire ----- about you." I care about you." etc. I also have made and effort to tell someone when I notice something positive about them even if they're not a close friend ("I like your scarf," etc.)

This kind of practice is a building block of happiness. So congratulations!
Thank you, WrkNPrgress. I'm sorry I didn't see your post before. I have to work on complimenting people more. Yes, doing so is important! I sometimes forget that others want to be seen and understood and validated just like I do.

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Good to hear, rainbow!!!!

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Thank you, Artemis.

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Good for you! Let us know how it unfolds.


LOVE this story!! Thank you for sharing! You and your T are both very fortunate. I wish I had your courage!
Thanks, AllHeart. My T and I have been together 5 years. I've come to realize it IS a real relationship even with her boundaries. I love her because I know she's a good person, not just because she's my T.
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