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Old May 22, 2015, 09:43 AM
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Some reaction is normal...If the immune system is stimulated the body releases chemicals that cause fever, inflammation etc. It doesn't matter if it's a vaccine stimulating the immune system or an illness. But especially in very small animals we want to minimize the amount of inflammation etc.
Splitting up vaccines is one idea. you would have to alert your vet ahead of time that she got really sick and it may be possible to pre medicate with an anti- inflammatory/ pain medication prior to vaccination to reduce reaction ( we do this in horses with known reactivity)
But, make sure in the future to check on the leptospirosis. Lepto Is more of a concern for outdoorsy dogs who play on woods/farms, drink from ponds etc because it is spread by ingestion of urine of infected animals generally. If your dog is a lap buddy the risk may be very small of contact with Lepto . Discuss your dog's real potential risk for Lepto. I didn't want to scare you while she Was sick ( I figured encouraging going to the er if needed was enough) but as the owner of a 13 lb cairn terrier cross I am aware of deadly reactions that have occurred to the Lepto vaccine. I DO give it to my terrier because he is a farm dog but I do it separately from everything else and give him anti inflammatory meds first. For some reason some vets don't Take the risk the Lepto vaccine poses to small dogs seriously. Not saying this about your vet!! It's possible they didn't even give it. But you need to find out in the future so you can advocate for her safety
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Old May 22, 2015, 10:21 AM
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Morning, couch. I've got one hell of a therapy hangover today. Yesterday was pretty rough as I imagined it would be. ie: T wouldn't let me leave the building as I was in no shape to do so. Stayed for an extra 5 hours. I'm still trying to process it all. It's confusing. I'm confused. I want to go back to my bed and just stay there forever.
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Old May 22, 2015, 11:14 AM
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Morning couch! Just got back from the pool, I managed to swim for about 30 minutes before it was just tooooo cold! But it was enough. I did some good workings-out. Might have to do a separate post about it. Almost time to head to work. Have a good day everyone!!
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Old May 22, 2015, 11:29 AM
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Just finished my session. It was weird and awesome and now I am very very sad. Don't understand any of it
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Old May 22, 2015, 11:49 AM
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Just got to work. Stupid truck left us stranded last night, thanks a lot for my sister who came and picked us up, took us home, took us back this morning to school/work, and spent many hours running around with me to get the stupid truck back home and in working condition. Special thanks to my brother-in-law who is coming this afternoon to put the new alternator on the truck, and to my father who taught me just enough mechanicking to be dangerous!

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Old May 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
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I am pretty anti-pain for a standard of beauty for women I don't agree with. I don't shave or wax anything.
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Old May 22, 2015, 01:53 PM
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Morning couch! Just got back from the pool, I managed to swim for about 30 minutes before it was just tooooo cold! But it was enough. I did some good workings-out. Might have to do a separate post about it. Almost time to head to work. Have a good day everyone!!
Sounds splendid! I wish I was responsible enough to exercise. I have a history with going a litttttle off the deep end with it. (Stupid eating disorder/OCD ) I'm willing to bet that it helps a lot with moods and whatnot!
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Old May 22, 2015, 02:17 PM
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I'm willing to bet that it helps a lot with moods and whatnot!
For some people it doesn't. My mood plummets during and after exercising, and that is not an unusual phenomenon. (Prescribing exercise to depressed people is just as hit-and-miss as prescribing medication. For some people it works really well but not for everybody.)
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:00 PM
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For some people it doesn't. My mood plummets during and after exercising, and that is not an unusual phenomenon. (Prescribing exercise to depressed people is just as hit-and-miss as prescribing medication. For some people it works really well but not for everybody.)
I need motivation. Lost my will and desire to exercise and I do feel worse. Need some motivation so thanks!
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:02 PM
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Sometimes it helps if you have over exercising tendencies to try some thing totally new that you aren't very good at . I once used long distance running as a way to manage my eating disorder. I can no longer run because I have a muscle disorder now. I recently took up.yoga and wondered if I might start over doing it but I am literally so bad at yoga that over Doing it isn't an option
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:07 PM
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Reading some posts on here makes me realize how unusual my relationship with my therapist is. Sometimes I'd like to discuss things...but touch is so woven into all my therapy that I think some people would freak that it's all going to come apart or unethical or what have you. It's just weird to realize how much I self edit on here. Although I am very attached right now it's becoming the first secure attachment of my life and I am definitely progressing positively. After 3 years our relationship is always evolving. It's just weird. I feel lucky but also strange. Not sure about posting this here but I just wanted to.express how weird it feels without starting a huge argument about touch and ethics.
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:10 PM
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I think if touch is useful then have at it. The first therapist I ever saw when I was in my 20s was a toucher - she hugged clients and held them while they cried and so on. I did not like it - but it was useful for others (she was a popular one in the community for awhile and I knew other people who had seen her). For me, there is a huge difference between what I would want or not versus what I think is wrong. I think very little is wrong for other people if they are finding something useful and it is not actively harming anyone else.
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:15 PM
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BB - I also have to edit a lot of my postings (to be read I don't post about it) because my relationship/attachment with my T seems soooo out of the norm from everyone here. So I understand fully what you are saying/trying to say. I get it. You're welcome to PM me about it if you ever want to talk about it somewhere, I'll listen
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:15 PM
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I think if touch is useful then have at it. The first therapist I ever saw when I was in my 20s was a toucher - she hugged clients and held them while they cried and so on. I did not like it - but it was useful for others (she was a popular one in the community for awhile and I knew other people who had seen her). For me, there is a huge difference between what I would want or not versus what I think is wrong. I think very little is wrong for other people if they are finding something useful and it is not actively harming anyone else.
That is why you are awesome though stopdog. You have your opinions and complete confidence in them without projecting them onto anyone else. Most of us ,myself included ,struggle with that. ..
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:16 PM
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Sometimes it helps if you have over exercising tendencies to try some thing totally new that you aren't very good at . I once used long distance running as a way to manage my eating disorder. I can no longer run because I have a muscle disorder now. I recently took up.yoga and wondered if I might start over doing it but I am literally so bad at yoga that over Doing it isn't an option
Yeah, that's what I did (running). I loved it and was really good at it, but sadly abused the hell out of it. Yoga could work, though!!! I've done some yoga in treatment and found it helpful
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Yeah brony - we start and end each session with a hug, and sometimes theres a kickfight over the ottoman, or a fist bump, or other stuff if somebody starts crying. Nobody here much yells at me for it anymore - i irritate them for other reasons

I told my t about your raccoon pulling at your pant leg like when he was young - we were dying. Poor Rocky was regressing?! Anyway we thought it was a perfect example of rupture and repair.
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:23 PM
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Yeah, that's what I did (running). I loved it and was really good at it, but sadly abused the hell out of it. Yoga could work, though!!! I've done some yoga in treatment and found it helpful
I miss running more than anything in life and would certainly still be doing it if I was physically capable. Continuing to run could literally kill me. My muscles can't use energy correctly anymore so my muscle cells start to die, my blood becomes overloaded with by products of muscle damage , and then my kidneys could get permanently wrecked. After my 3rd visit to the ER I decided I had to stop. The fact that running causes excruciating pain for me now helps too. I can only do exercises like xc skiing or yoga where I can do a lot of work with my core muscles. My leg muscles are most affected and there is hope that it Will not spread to my other muscles. But I ran for 20 years. I qualified for the Boston marathon and had run 7 marathons when my muscles started malfunctioning. I miss it so much it is like the death of a loved one.
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I need motivation. Lost my will and desire to exercise and I do feel worse. Need some motivation so thanks!
My apologies - I definitely didn't mean to demotivate anybody. For me it is extremely frustrating to be told that I will feel better, less stressed and happier if I exercise "because that is how everybody feels". When I found out that I am not alone in feeling worse in the short term it was such a relief. (I mean, when you feel like crap and are told that you are supposed to feel good, it adds insult to injury!)

But a large proportion of the population get a boost, whether from endorphins or something else, when they exercise. I think that is probably much more common than the opposite.
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:30 PM
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I am struggling to find ways to lift weights that does not aggravate my bad back.
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:30 PM
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Yeah brony - we start and end each session with a hug, and sometimes theres a kickfight over the ottoman, or a fist bump, or other stuff if somebody starts crying. Nobody here much yells at me for it anymore - i irritate them for other reasons

I told my t about your raccoon pulling at your pant leg like when he was young - we were dying. Poor Rocky was regressing?! Anyway we thought it was a perfect example of rupture and repair.
That is so awesome and hilarious! !!

Yes there is much hugging...and I will add That I am extremely ticklish and my T takes advantage of this in arguments( but I like being tickled--I received so little attention as a kid I was rarely touched uNless abuse was involved never mind over tickled or against my will as happens to lots of kids. By the time I even knew I was ticklish I was a teenager with enough body autonomy and healthy people in my life that no one was going to do it against my will.so for me it's associated with people who loved and respected me...so I know some people would find that mean or awful but I Find it loving and fun...takes some of the weight out of the room after a heavy discussion)
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:35 PM
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:37 PM
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That is so awesome and hilarious! !!

Yes there is much hugging...and I will add That I am extremely ticklish and my T takes advantage of this in arguments( but I like being tickled--I received so little attention as a kid I was rarely touched uNless abuse was involved never mind over tickled or against my will as happens to lots of kids. By the time I even knew I was ticklish I was a teenager with enough body autonomy and healthy people in my life that no one was going to do it against my will.so for me it's associated with people who loved and respected me...so I know some people would find that mean or awful but I Find it loving and fun...takes some of the weight out of the room after a heavy discussion)
I will add I get fired up if anyone is ever tickling a kid who doesn't obviously WANT to be tickled. I have chewed out family members and friends over it. I identify with the helplessness even though I don't find it unpleasant. It's pretty easy to teach "go" and "stop" signals to even very young kids and theN the adults just need to not be bullies and ignore them
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Old May 22, 2015, 03:53 PM
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Holy crap, I miss running. I think the last time I ran was in 2010. I had sciatica then; that was why I had to stop. Now I have torn and ruptured discs, so nevermind running anytime soon (if ever). I ran for about 15 years, but I was not as hard core as you, BB...I did a ton of 10Ks and a few half marathons. I have crappy knees (plus plantar fasciitis), so I can't imagine running more than 13.1 miles! And the last 3.1 were torture.

I need to get back into weights, too...but like you SD, also need to figure out how not to hurt my back any further. I tried physical therapy for it, but that was a miserable failure.
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I miss running more than anything in life and would certainly still be doing it if I was physically capable. Continuing to run could literally kill me. My muscles can't use energy correctly anymore so my muscle cells start to die, my blood becomes overloaded with by products of muscle damage , and then my kidneys could get permanently wrecked. After my 3rd visit to the ER I decided I had to stop. The fact that running causes excruciating pain for me now helps too. I can only do exercises like xc skiing or yoga where I can do a lot of work with my core muscles. My leg muscles are most affected and there is hope that it Will not spread to my other muscles. But I ran for 20 years. I qualified for the Boston marathon and had run 7 marathons when my muscles started malfunctioning. I miss it so much it is like the death of a loved one.
Rhabdomyolysis? I'm sorry, that sucks big time.
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It's just weird to realize how much I self edit on here.
Not at all. It's natural to want to protect your relationship from those who don't understand.
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