[x123]

In psychotherapy, I have always tried to be as open as possible, because I have assumed that this would make the therapy more productive. Unfortunately, I have found that therapists are uncomfortable when I am too open.

I have begun to suspect that I have never actually been psychotic - or at least I was not as psychotic as I once thought. I suspect I might be somewhat psychic at times instead of being psychotic. Like I suspect I can sense things beyond physical reality, and sometimes those things guide me or attempt to guide me. I hesitatingly decided to share this idea with my therapist, but I could tell by the expression on her face that she thought I was not being honest or trying to shock her or something. She obviously didn't want to talk about it, and that is how it has always been when I try to talk about things I have experienced. My previous therapist was the same way. When I try to talk about these things on forums. I can feel people carefully taking a few steps back from me like I have the plague.

It's a shame when a person can't talk without fear of rejection - even in therapy. It is when ideas and experiences are kept hidden that they can grow into problems.

In fairness, the particular experience was very strange. Unfortunately, that seems to be the way these types of experience are. *sigh*

[unaluna]

I just tell them - we just dont have a way of measuring it yet; you cant say its not true. The world used to be flat, ya know! That way, my t understands im not TOTALLY "out there" - im just "open" to new scientific inquiry!

Eta - plus i read about an experiment some time ago - they took two submarines, put the mama bunny in one and her baby bunnies in the other. Then they were mean to the baby bunnies, and the mama bunny could sense it. So what was that if not ESP? Then my t and i had another discussion on what the mama bunny's reaction actually was - i thought she might be mean too, but thats a whole other thing...

[Out There]

Have you ever looked at Shamanic psychotherapy or the work of psychiatrist Stanislav Grof?

[x123]

Originally Posted by unaluna

I just tell them - we just dont have a way of measuring it yet; you cant say its not true. The world used to be flat, ya know! That way, my t understands im not TOTALLY "out there" - im just "open" to new scientific inquiry!

Eta - plus i read about an experiment some time ago - they took two submarines, put the mama bunny in one and her baby bunnies in the other. Then they were mean to the baby bunnies, and the mama bunny could sense it. So what was that if not ESP? Then my t and i had another discussion on what the mama bunny's reaction actually was - i thought she might be mean too, but thats a whole other thing...

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that experiment, but I have heard lots of anecdotes about human mothers knowing when their children need help. One time I thought I knew that my cat needed help, and when I got home I saw some things that I won't bother to try to explain (too weird again). I like to think that my cat and I are linked, so that we know when the other needs something.

It helps me psychologically to believe that everything is happening the way it should happen. Instead of kicking myself for "bad" decisions, I can think that everything that has happened is necessary and good somehow. There was an interesting line in the movie "Matrix Reloaded" where the Oracle told Neo that life was not about making correct decisions but instead is about understanding decisions that have already been made as part of some personal story that has already been written.

[x123]

Originally Posted by Out There

Have you ever looked at Shamanic psychotherapy or the work of psychiatrist Stanislav Grof?

I haven't read anything, but what I saw on Wikipedia sounds interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Grof

I found this on shamanic psychotherapy, but I haven't read it. (It takes me a long time to read things, so I often can't read everything that I want to read.)
http://hammerman.net/Integrating.pdf

A person that my therapist told me about is Viktor Frankl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Frankl

Viktor Emil Frankl (26 March 1905 – 2 September 1997)[1][2] was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist as well as a Holocaust survivor. Frankl was the founder of logotherapy, which is a form of existential analysis, the "Third Viennese School of Psychotherapy". His best-selling book Man's Search for Meaning (published under a different title in 1959: From Death-Camp to Existentialism, and originally published in 1946 as Trotzdem Ja Zum Leben Sagen: Ein Psychologe erlebt das Konzentrationslager, meaning Nevertheless, Say "Yes" to Life: A Psychologist Experiences the Concentration Camp) chronicles his experiences as a concentration camp inmate, which led him to discover the importance of finding meaning in all forms of existence, even the most brutal ones, and thus, a reason to continue living. Frankl became one of the key figures in existential therapy and a prominent source of inspiration for humanistic psychologists.[3]

[formyself]

Originally Posted by x123

It's a shame when a person can't talk without fear of rejection - even in therapy. It is when ideas and experiences are kept hidden that they can grow into problems.

Yes I think if you can't say everything maybe part of it is the T's fault.

[x123]

Originally Posted by formyself

Yes I think if you can't say everything maybe part of it is the T's fault.

It is a shame, but I guess therapists are only people and they can't help sometimes reacting positively or negatively to what is said in accordance with their own world views. At least the internet forums give an alternative. I look at this forum as virtual group therapy. If I say something stupid on an internet forum, then usually not too many people care anyway.