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Old Jan 06, 2017, 01:03 PM
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I wonder this because I have not family or friends, I live thanks to the money I am given for being considered disable. I feel I need a family and not a psychotherapist.
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Sorry things are so tough, Oliver. Have you and your T talked about ways to be less isolated, and find external support?
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Old Jan 06, 2017, 01:13 PM
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Sorry things are so tough, Oliver. Have you and your T talked about ways to be less isolated, and find external support?
Yeah, there are not many.

Most of people don't want to meet people with severe mental health problems. Also, I have social anxiety and negative symptoms from psychosis that makes it harder to socialize.
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Old Jan 06, 2017, 01:17 PM
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Best book ever for complex PTSD.Very helpful when combined with therapy.

https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-.../dp/1492871842
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Old Jan 06, 2017, 02:04 PM
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I wonder this because I have not family or friends, I live thanks to the money I am given for being considered disable. I feel I need a family and not a psychotherapist.
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Yeah, there are not many.

Most of people don't want to meet people with severe mental health problems. Also, I have social anxiety and negative symptoms from psychosis that makes it harder to socialize.
I agree -- I told my T I needed I needed "re-socialization" once some of the trauma was uncovered, etc. Emotions and responses that were "frozen" needed somewhere to "be" and be accepted, and re-taught, or taught for the first time, how to be with other people and be a part of things -- "belonging" is still something I long for even though I've fought like H. . . to go to support groups, and now meetup groups to try to find people with similar interests.

In my state there are some peer support centers, funded by the state, and staffed by peer support specialists. I went there for several years when I was at my worst but because I'm not considered disabled I don't feel so comfortable there anymore. Still it was a good start, and if you don't have any in your state then maybe you could help advocate for something like that to get started?
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 06:24 AM
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I agree -- I told my T I needed I needed "re-socialization" once some of the trauma was uncovered, etc. Emotions and responses that were "frozen" needed somewhere to "be" and be accepted, and re-taught, or taught for the first time, how to be with other people and be a part of things -- "belonging" is still something I long for even though I've fought like H. . . to go to support groups, and now meetup groups to try to find people with similar interests.

In my state there are some peer support centers, funded by the state, and staffed by peer support specialists. I went there for several years when I was at my worst but because I'm not considered disabled I don't feel so comfortable there anymore. Still it was a good start, and if you don't have any in your state then maybe you could help advocate for something like that to get started?
Here we don't have anything like that. Here we have something called 'Civic centers' were there are libraries, gyms, and many activities are made, the only problem is you have to pay for them (the only thing that's free it's the library) and I am poor. I have to pay 50€ the first time I sign in and then 43€ for a year suscription which means I have a 50% disscount on cultural activities and sport.

I could meet people going to this kind of things (and at the same time do excercise and learn new things like painting, drawing, ... but I have to talk about this with my pdoc since it's a lot of money for me)
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 06:42 AM
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Best book ever for complex PTSD.Very helpful when combined with therapy.

https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-.../dp/1492871842
Hello,
Did you read this book? It mentions childhood..but my PTSD comes from adulthood experiences. Do you think I could apply any knowledge from this book to an Adult case of PTSD?
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 06:46 AM
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Best book ever for complex PTSD.Very helpful when combined with therapy.

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I wonder this because I have not family or friends, I live thanks to the money I am given for being considered disable. I feel I need a family and not a psychotherapist.
I agree I am in a similar situation. I don't talk to many people in my family due to various reasons but all of the reasons have to do with mental illness on their parts an mine.

I think if I did have my family or friends (an actual best friends severed ties with me because i wasn't available enough to be "present" when we met) because I was always focused on my kids.

She told me it was too painful to watch me suffer and it was affecting her MS.

SO, I see a therapist because it is the only way I can get some stuff on the table to see if I am the problem or how to fix things that I can't see from the outside about myself.

I do know exactly what you are saying. We have to pay to feel like someone cares about us...it s*cks
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 03:05 PM
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Most of people don't want to meet people with severe mental health problems. Also, I have social anxiety and negative symptoms from psychosis that makes it harder to socialize.
I expect you've covered this with your therapist but is there any way you think you could find a part time job without the negative symptoms from the psychoses interfering too much? Not a lot of hours, 4-6 a week to start? Or maybe something as a volunteer if they would pay for transportation?
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 04:47 PM
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I expect you've covered this with your therapist but is there any way you think you could find a part time job without the negative symptoms from the psychoses interfering too much? Not a lot of hours, 4-6 a week to start? Or maybe something as a volunteer if they would pay for transportation?
I have been 2 years trying to find a job, and the only thing I found was cleaning toilets for 3 months, full time, during summer. I only could bear 2 months.

Without work experience and a degree is almost impossible to find anything here, plus I am at college. Next semester (It starts in February) I am going to try to go to lessons...

I already am a volunteer at red croix but I have to finish some courser before I can actually do anything. I have already done 2 and they are 4.
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 05:55 PM
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With all of that, it sounds like you're doing about as much as you can do for the moment. I can certainly understand how difficult it can be to have to wait things out.

Is college at all a good place to meet people? If you're there already, maybe you can find some other things to do while you're there? Something to participate in as well as your classes. I can understand if that might be hard because of your social anxiety, but maybe there is something that you would like a lot or where the people were easy to get along with.

So sorry that you don't have family. I understand that. It leaves a big hole in me and makes it hard to see how anybody else could like me or want to be my friend. But I keep trying, or isolate for awhile if I feel really hurt or scared or something and then try again. It's getting better but it takes awhile.
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Old Jan 08, 2017, 07:10 PM
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For me, once a week t with no support would not be helpful. But I don't know what the alternative might be. I am sorry you are so alone
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Old Jan 09, 2017, 12:41 AM
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With all of that, it sounds like you're doing about as much as you can do for the moment. I can certainly understand how difficult it can be to have to wait things out.

Is college at all a good place to meet people? If you're there already, maybe you can find some other things to do while you're there? Something to participate in as well as your classes. I can understand if that might be hard because of your social anxiety, but maybe there is something that you would like a lot or where the people were easy to get along with.

So sorry that you don't have family. I understand that. It leaves a big hole in me and makes it hard to see how anybody else could like me or want to be my friend. But I keep trying, or isolate for awhile if I feel really hurt or scared or something and then try again. It's getting better but it takes awhile.
I think it is a good place to meet people, but I didn't because of asociality and because I didn't attend lessons. Now asociality is gone and I intend to attend lessons I think I can meet people, also, I am going to join a sport group called GAP.

But yeah, meanwhile I have to wait.

Not having a family is the hardest thing, more than the schizophrenia. Thank you, I am sorry If you are lonely too .

I just want a friendly hug (In real life)

Ugh

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