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Old Jul 02, 2017, 08:38 AM
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agreed...

and when i pointed this specific forum out to my ex-T many years ago, suggesting that he should take a look at it and see what clients are really saying about therapy behind the shield of anonymity (because perhaps many are too intimidated or scared to be this forthcoming with their own Ts) and after he took a brief look, he easily dismissed many of the 'disgruntled' clients with excuses (similar to the ones you listed above) that most likely were meant to pacify his own discomfort with the harsh truths being presented and challenging the status quo of therapy.
If it were any relationship other than a therapist-client, where the client is assumed to be the "deficient" one by virtue of why we are coming to therapy, wouldn't you say this type of behavior is denial?
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Old Jul 02, 2017, 08:44 AM
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I am sure therapy could be harmful yes. But I do know so many people irl who are/were in therapy and none of them are harmed let alone abused by therapists or therapy. Reading a forum like this easily gives another picture. I guess many search outlets when there is a problem and write about it. Don't get me wrong, it is awesome there is a place to share bad experiences, but I think by far the most common experience is that therapy is helpful and one "comes out" feeling better. It might just be that people having a regular, healing experience might not be so verbal about it or even go to forums discussing it.
Ratings research shows people talk about whatever experience they feel strongly about--whether negative or positive.

I realize this forum isn't like like Yelp, but see, for example, most ratings by Yelp are positive 68%, so people come to that site most often to say positive things about their experiences. It's suspected that 20% are fake--but that goes both positive and negative as companies go to their competitors site to give them poor ratings.

https://www.yelp.com/factsheet

Who knows. I come here in part when I'm having a hard time, so I guess sometimes to distract myself when I'm procrastinating and have to do something I don't want to do. Other times, I come here to help cope, or just because I can't sleep and want to talk with a great group of people about an interesting subject. So I guess I don't come here to talk about either positive or negative experiences. Just come here to talk.
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Old Jul 02, 2017, 08:47 AM
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My therapist denied all harm, attributing my injury to transference and projection. He described me as disconnected to reality, unable to distinguish between him and my parents. Apparently his peers believed him --I lost my grievance against him.
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But . . .assuming that is accurate, he obviously wasn't able to "help" you with that, was he? Why isn't the burden on him about that, then? The licensing boards apparently don't get that, though. Which is why I think there needs to be some sort of consumer/client protection presence in the process somehow. Don't know exactly how though, and there obviously is bound to be a lot of resistance.
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Old Jul 02, 2017, 08:57 AM
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I think the session frequency factor is quite important. I have preverbal trauma and I have been able to work with it in therapy but I think that the fact that I actually do go 4 times a week is very important factor that these things can be worked with. I can't truly imagine doing it going once a week, I would have probably gone crazy or I don't know.

At the same time, even if people would be able to afford going as often how many would still do it? The mainstream opinion is that so frequent sessions and years long therapy is only for the therapist financial benefit while I think (and have experienced) that this kind of setting might a prerequisite of successfully working with such difficult material.
Good question. I would do it (if I could afford it) but only if it was manageable with work. I don't go along with the thinking it is for financial benefit when it comes to analytic therapy. Like you, I have preverbal trauma; I think 4 times a week would be helpful for me and would do it if I could.

The reason I'd do it is multiple. I know several analysts who did at least 5 years of therapy at least 4 days a week before they were done working through. One did 6 days a week, and some did more than 5 years. But using a conservative estimate, going for 5 years 4 days a week, translated to once a week is 20 years!! That's a conservative time comparison. Five times a week for 7 years, not an unusual time for those in psychoanlytic training equates to 35 years! Psychodynamic therapy is not meant to be that way.

That's how it was intended to work when using transference as a tool, and that's what's been making me wonder about doing this type of depth work and it dragging it on. It's meant to be intense, and rather permanent, so when you are finished you are finished and living your life rather than thinking about therapy.

I think more frequent sessions would contain things in the therapy much better, so a person wouldn't have to deal with the distress and obsessive thinking, etc, outside of the therapy consulting room between sessions. At least for some of us who need that closeness because of our unmet attachment stuff.
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Old Jul 02, 2017, 10:03 AM
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But . . .assuming that is accurate, he obviously wasn't able to "help" you with that, was he? Why isn't the burden on him about that, then? The licensing boards apparently don't get that, though. Which is why I think there needs to be some sort of consumer/client protection presence in the process somehow. Don't know exactly how though, and there obviously is bound to be a lot of resistance.
The therapist was purporting to mind read. Apparently the grievance board bought that.

My connection to reality was never a problem until I criticized the therapist.
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Old Jul 02, 2017, 12:08 PM
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The therapist was purporting to mind read. Apparently the grievance board bought that.

My connection to reality was never a problem until I criticized the therapist.
This should so be a red flag, and so sorry this happened to you. Also grateful you have spoken out and continue to.
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Old Jul 02, 2017, 12:50 PM
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I understand it's common for therapists to label accusing clients, though the client never showed "psychosis" prior to complaining. That's one reason why it's so difficult to file or win a complaint--the therapist has the tools to negate and invalidate. I learned the hard way how readily my...ahem... caring therapist would throw me under the bus.

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Old Jul 03, 2017, 02:07 AM
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and there obviously is bound to be a lot of resistance.
hey...i thought the resistance was suppose to be our job!
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 10:27 AM
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I realise that my views are misconstrued as a little too left at times, but I would not be comfortable putting all my eggs in one basket.
Let me explain. You are relying on the help of one person to solve your life's problems. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that there is a big risk in entering therapy. I have been trying to piece myself together for five years now. When i was put forth for psychotherapy i was told, it would take at least a year. I contacted a counsellor and i told them what i could, and found i wasn't ready to talk. There are plenty more fish in the sea and a therapist who tries to assure you there is no risks, alarm bells should start to ring
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 04:39 AM
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I wish I was warned about the therapist I was seeing. It has been a terrible experience. If I want someone to use and abuse me, I don't need to pay for it.
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Old Jul 07, 2017, 10:54 AM
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It can indeed be harmful. I didn't want someone to use and abuse me and I didn't want to pay for that
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