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Old Jul 02, 2017, 11:09 PM
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Finished episode 5 a little bit ago.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 02:37 AM
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I started watching "Gypsy" on Netflix,mostly because it's about a therapist.I'm only on episode 2 so far because it's s-l-o-w moving and kind of b-o-r-i-n-g.But I plan on watching the whole season,it's interesting to me to see the life of a therapist.

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In the second episode,the MH professionals are sitting around a table discussing a client.That was disturbing to me.Do they really do that?

This show gives me anxiety.It seems everything this therapist does is unethical.

Anyone else watching this?
I've watched two episodes and I like it so far although it is quite slow. To answer your question, yes therapists do discuss their clients with other therapists. My ex T told me she did that: it was helpful for her to get another perspective about her clients. Obviously last names are not revealed to maintain confidentiality. Why is it disturbing to you? To go back to the show, Jean (Naomi Watts' character) is SO ****ED UP. I wonder whether she's a sociopath who likes to manipulate her clients with the stories they tell her or whether she's just lonely and sad and is looking for some cheap thrills by trying to be part of her clients' lives. I mean, she seems to have it all: a nice, expensive house, a loving husband, a cute daughter. But then of course, her husband is a bit too close to his assistant and her daughter is a tomboy (which Jean seems to have issues with).
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 07:08 AM
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To answer your question, yes therapists do discuss their clients with other therapists. My ex T told me she did that: it was helpful for her to get another perspective about her clients. Obviously last names are not revealed to maintain confidentiality. Why is it disturbing to you?.
It's disturbing to imagine,especially if any personal info has been shared,like part of my story.It bothers me even if last names are not used.There's 2 other therapists that work at my T's practice and just the thought of them knowing anything about me makes me cringe.T's are only human and I'm sure they probably gossip outside of work,like most people do and I would hate to be the topic of someone's evening conversation with their friends or family.

Not only that but I don't live in that huge of a place,some of the info could identify who I am.The last thing I would want is anyone putting 2 and 2 together and knowing it was me that witnessed/experienced the things I did.Some of the things I disclosed to my T could put people behind bars for a very long time,they weren't your average stories,and I have trusted my T that it all stays in the therapy room,so even just talking to his colleagues,whether using names or not,would be a huge betrayal to me.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 09:08 AM
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I started watching this show today. Currently on episode 5. The therapist just seems strange. I think she uses her over the top involvement in her clients lives just to escape from her own reality.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 09:10 AM
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You gotta wonder IRL if any T's are seriously THIS interested in their clients. I mean, gee, lets all become friends with our client's ex girlfriend...lol
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 09:21 AM
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I started watching "Gypsy" on Netflix,mostly because it's about a therapist.I'm only on episode 2 so far because it's s-l-o-w moving and kind of b-o-r-i-n-g.But I plan on watching the whole season,it's interesting to me to see the life of a therapist.

Spolier alert:

In the second episode,the MH professionals are sitting around a table discussing a client.That was disturbing to me.Do they really do that?

This show gives me anxiety.It seems everything this therapist does is unethical.

Anyone else watching this?
I haven't watchedit. What is the context of the professionals discussing the client? Is it a treatment team meeting or group supervision? These happen all the time where I work..
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 12:42 PM
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I haven't watchedit. What is the context of the professionals discussing the client? Is it a treatment team meeting or group supervision? These happen all the time where I work..
They mention later that someone missed supervision so I am guessing that is the intent
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 12:58 PM
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I started watching "Gypsy" yesterday.. so far I've watched four episodes. I have to agree with some of the others that it is kind of slow moving. I keep waiting for something to happen and it's pretty much the same ol stuff. So far the best part was when she told off that one mother who was very judgemental of the therapists young daughter, a little tomboy ( who is adorable).
I like to believe that this is Hollywood at its best and that in real life a therapist would never entertain getting involved with family or partners of their clients. But who knows!!! The character that Naomi Watts plays is in need of some serious therapy herself!! I do not like how the therapists all sit around a table drinking coffee talking about their clients.. that would make me very uncomfortable!! I'm probably going to ask my therapist if she ever discusses her clients with other therapists ( although it's highly unlikely that she would do that, unless it was done because she needed some supervision or had legitimate concerns and needed some input from other professionals).
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 02:02 PM
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Supervision is necessary for therapists precisely because it is unethical to go home and talk to their families and friends about us. They need a place to get further opinion on how best to work with their clients, assistance with working through counter-transference or other strong feelings their work has brought up in them, and - most importantly - they need to be kept accountable and have someone else monitoring whether they are working ethically and to the best of their ability.

I would not see a therapist who does not have regular supervision.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 03:07 PM
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I have two supervisors and it is unethical to name a client, so we have pseudonyms for clients. I also have peer supervision where a group of us ts sit around and discuss our clients but we mostly discuss what is happening for us in relation to our clients.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 03:12 PM
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I have to say that my ex t was very interested in my life and I caught her a few times staring at me and my ex when we were walking down town, some ts are interested and others not so much. I am not that interested in my clients, only some but not others. I guess some touch into something in us.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 10:18 PM
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I had to watch it after reading this thread. Ahhhhh, Hollywood and it's romance with BPD or how "they" perceive BPD. I definitely see the Watts character as building toward a "BPD" diagnosis--what they now call a high functioning BPD client--able to hold down a professional job but struggling to maintain their personal relationships.
1. Watts' character talks to her husband about their dating relationship. "Remember how I kept breaking up with you all the time."
2. Her jealousy of the husband's assistant.
3. Her bi-sexuality.
4. Did she steal a "doctor's prescription pad" at that dinner with friends? I wasn't sure but I thought she tore off a prescription sheet from a pad. Might have that wrong.
5. Boundary issues--I had to laugh when she wrote "boundaries" in her notes about that client, but it's pretty clear that SHE has boundary issues.
6. Literature/research LOL from prominent "BPD experts" who view people with BPD as having varying degrees of psychopathic traits.
7. Boredom with her life--a need for excitement.
8. Yep, she's now taking some kind of medication--??? from that prescription pad?
I'm only on the first episode but I can almost see where this is going. Gee, sometimes I just hate the psychotherapy profession and hate Hollywood even more! One more woman Hollywood character being stigmatized by a stereotypical view of BPD. Sure hope they prove me wrong but I'm not sure I can watch more of this.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 10:22 PM
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Oh, wanted to add that yes, therapists, psychiatrists and doctors do talk about their clients when together. Some are very professional about it--it is TRUE supervision (an opportunity to talk and view your clients in a manner that allows you to see YOURSELF in a real light). It's an opportunity to allow others to point out to you how you're getting in your own way. The sad time is when you're in a meeting where it's a gang up on, free-for-all of dissing and trashing clients. And it does happen. We've all seen it here on line. When that happens, it's a travesty.
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 10:30 PM
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From the promo I saw I thought she was having an affair with her patient. Is that not what it's about?
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 03:07 AM
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You gotta wonder IRL if any T's are seriously THIS interested in their clients. I mean, gee, lets all become friends with our client's ex girlfriend...lol
I highly doubt therapists as a whole are really interested in their clients' lives. Most clients have very boring lives. And very common and boring problems too. By "boring" I mean ordinary, it's not a judgment at all. My life is not boring to me but to my therapist, I'm sure it is.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 03:32 AM
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I had a therapist who went over every line imaginable with me. Can't say much for his colleagues either as they must all be psycho's to defend him. How sad for the world of therapy to have so many sicko's in the business. Someone should report them too!
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 09:28 AM
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From the promo I saw I thought she was having an affair with her patient. Is that not what it's about?
She's having a same-sex affair with her client's ex girlfriend (and object of his obsession)
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 09:29 AM
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I just finished it. I hope there will be more!
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 09:46 AM
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I highly doubt therapists as a whole are really interested in their clients' lives. Most clients have very boring lives. And very common and boring problems too. By "boring" I mean ordinary, it's not a judgment at all. My life is not boring to me but to my therapist, I'm sure it is.
I tried to get my T to admit to me last night that she must think I am so completely lame and boring because I AM. She reiterated that no, she doesn't find me boring or lame, and if anything she feels gratitude that I continue to come even though I hate everything, especially me. I rolled my eyes at her (that she couldn't see, bc i was hiding behind a pillow), but she knows I only begrudginly listen to her say things like that.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 01:22 PM
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I watched three episodes. I dont like the therapist. Not sure if I will watch any more.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 01:33 PM
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I watched all 10 episodes and kept falling asleep. The therapist is really screwed up but all in all the show moves slow and is boring. Lots of people go out and have same sex affairs and people have troubling marriages. I felt that part was not different than what some folks go out and do. But as I said it was really screwed up that she goes out and creates relationships with her clients relatives or what not.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 05:13 PM
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Stayed up in the wee hours to watch some episodes.

I can how others see it is kind of boring in the beginning, but as I started to piece clues together, I'm starting to see a picture of where this is going and how it might end so the suspense is really building. Not sure how many episodes there are but it seems close to the end.

She shows many narcissistic and antisocial personality traits and behaviors, but there were a couple of things that make me see her as somewhat psychopathic (depending on how this goes). i don't see her as the typical borderline stereotype, interesting. She doesn't see Sydney as a person, but instead as an object. She seems to have that pattern with everyone-she exploits people's vulnerabilities and uses people as a means to an end. She even uses her daughter to manipulate others.

She's extremely deceptive and has no regard for rules and lies constantly. She is paranoid a good deal. She is extremely controlling, and her role as a therapist allows her to use people as pawns and she shows reckless disregard for the safety of her clients and no concern for therapy ethics. She even seems to use her daughter to manipulate others. She's a drifter, symbolically, and has no sense of self. She really has no identity-i can see why she's fascinated by Sydney's personality, and Sydney's inability to be influenced by others. She envies Sydney's power, over others, which is what she wants and is also why she became a therapist-so she could have power over others.

She has little empathy with her clients, she is using them. She gets in their lives to control them and fix them to fulfill her own needs, but also uses them to toy with the objects of her affection. She uses her therapy job for power over others, but she doesn't have enough power due to some of her perceived weaknesses. One is that she lacks the charisma Sydney has. She 'borrows' Sydney's identify to feel powerful. She toys with people and sees her relationship with Sydney as a 'game'.

I left off at the episode of Michael's business trip. Used trigger option to hide a couple of potential spoiler alerts:

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Whether you like the plot or not, the complex personalities and relationship dynamics are really interesting, and Naomi Watts and some of the others do a fantastic job.

Wish i didn't check this forum as I had to watch this and am now behind with my project that's due the end of the week.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 05:56 PM
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Sorry if it seems I'm ignoring replies,I'm just trying to get all the episodes finished.I'm hooked.

IDK how the season will end but I have all sorts of questions running through my mind.Sometimes it seems she(therapist) is being ignored and makes me think of The Sixth Sense movie.Other times it reminds me of Waking Madison,where the main character has DID and interacting with other parts of herself,not realizing that's who they are.

I'm going to be so disappointed if all of this is leading nowhere or if we have to wait another year for another season.

Which btw,I finished watching orange is the new black in between watching Gypsy episodes.I actually cried at the end,but it was very triggering for me.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 06:54 PM
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I watched some or most of the first episode. I am mostly interested in the daughter's storyline, but don't want to have to watch the Watts character to get to her scenes. My therapist said she watched some and that it was ridiculous, and agreed about the daughter's storyline being more interesting.
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 07:21 PM
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I'm going to be so disappointed if all of this is leading nowhere or if we have to wait another year for another season.
I didn't like the ending at all. Of course it ends with a cliffhanger, sort of. I just saw an article on Yahoo news that reviews were not good, and they aren't sure if there will be a second season.
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