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View Poll Results: Did you seek further therapy after a bad or harmful therapy experience?
I've had a bad / harmful T experience and sought help from another T to address it. 31 56.36%
I've had a bad / harmful T experience and sought help from another T to address it.
31 56.36%
I've had a bad / harmful T experience and have not sought another T to address it. 5 9.09%
I've had a bad / harmful T experience and have not sought another T to address it.
5 9.09%
I've had a bad / harmful T experience, want to address it, but have not yet found a suitable T to help. 1 1.82%
I've had a bad / harmful T experience, want to address it, but have not yet found a suitable T to help.
1 1.82%
I've had a bad / harmful experience but continue to see the offending T and have not left therapy. 3 5.45%
I've had a bad / harmful experience but continue to see the offending T and have not left therapy.
3 5.45%
I've had a bad / harmful experience, have ended therapy but continue a relationship with the offending T while seeing another T. 1 1.82%
I've had a bad / harmful experience, have ended therapy but continue a relationship with the offending T while seeing another T.
1 1.82%
I've had a bad / harmful experience, I have ended all therapy but continue a relationship with the offending T. 0 0%
I've had a bad / harmful experience, I have ended all therapy but continue a relationship with the offending T.
0 0%
I've never had a bad / harmful therapy experience. 14 25.45%
I've never had a bad / harmful therapy experience.
14 25.45%
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 09:52 AM
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Saw a bad T for two years who made everything 3x worse. She exacerbated my anxiety with her "treatment." Took me a while to realize it because she kept telling me I need to come in more and that I was only coming once a week was the reason things were so bad.

Took me 6 years to go see another therapist. We don't really talk about that therapist though. Just took me a long time to get up the courage to try again.
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Old Jul 13, 2017, 01:01 PM
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I definitely think that if I went to therapy young, I could have bought into it much more and could potentially have had a very painful experience/lesson. I often have this impression reading the "romantic feelings" subforum, and in many other ways as well. But I started to experiment with it as a client when I was 40, being in the mental health field for many years (research), having been exposed to a lot of psych literature and education. Also signed up to PC and read this forum almost from the beginning of my therapy journey in 2015. So I was aware of and knowledgeable about a lot of things from start, plus definitely not a person not knowing who I am and what drives me. I think these experiences are the ones that made me both curious and also skeptical and quite resistant to therapy. But I still had the experience I described above, I did get hooked to a certain extent, in spite of the awareness. So yes, I absolutely believe that the business often thrives on naivety and faith, but also it can just be extremely habit forming. This is one reason why I am not much for treating harmful therapy with more therapy, even though there are exceptions and positive outcomes.

An analogy I can come up with is benzodiazepine drugs that were developed to treat anxiety symptoms. They are indeed extremely effective to provide acute relief, but extremely addictive as well, especially in people who are prone to getting hooked. And when that happens, it is no longer treatment for the original condition but a whole different problem, a very hard one to break for many.
I first started doing therapy when I was hospitalized at 15 for anorexia nervosa. I spend 11 months in the hospital, that was the way they did things in the early 1960's. And when I came out I was a "believer". It was the "system", the "authority", it had taken me away from home for awhile and from my social anxiety and other challenges of trying to grow up. My anorexia wasn't cured -- I went home, starved myself even more until one very unpleasant night, after eating nothing, and with all kind of physical discomforts, etc., it finally dawned on me that "not eating" was a dead end path. Literally. So I grew up enough to make that rational decision on my own but there was lots and lots that I didn't.

And I still had all the social anxieties, plus remnants of trauma, etc. from earlier in my life. "They" said, at the time, that if you were willing to look at your problems, and not deny or hide from them, then you could overcome them. Made sense to me, and that's what I tried to do -- for over 50 years on and off. When I had a problem or major life challenge, that's what I did -- go to therapy. It was the "thing" to do.

I kept looking to therapists, then, to help me find myself. I had fallen off the normal track of development, having been out of school for a year and coming back a former "mental patient". I climbed back on, sort of, went to college, worked, got married, had children. But except for my life with my husband, my participation in life was pretty superficial. Probably needed to be since I believe the diagnosis of a dissociative disorder I got finally 6 years ago is accurate and is something that was always there, although I didn't know it and other T's didn't diagnosis it.

So I don't think I could have said of myself at 40 that I knew what drove me. I had read a lot about psychology and tried to figure myself out, but I still "believed" in the professions, and the professionals in the abstract, despite frustrations with therapists. And I didn't really have a (full, whole) self I could depend on, especially when it came to knowing my emotions and how to handle them in relation to other people, and how to understand other people's to-me strange behavior sometimes. So -- the answer continued to be -- keep trying with the therapy.

I didn't feel I had another good choice. Voluntarily exiting life continues to be frowned on and as long as it is, even if voluntary exit had been a rational thing for me to do, my children might not have seen it that way. So, even though I, personally, believed it made sense 15 years ago, there was a possibility that my early exit could be more hurtful to my children than my continued sometimes hurtful-to-them existence. So I stayed. But I definitely needed somebody involved besides myself and the only relatively "safe" people to try to get involved with, who I could sort of count on to have anything to do with me, was therapists.

The benzodiazepine analogy is a good one, I think. I definitely needed something to help me not starve myself to death when I was 15. But the lifetime "addiction"? Maybe not.

Trouble was and is, how to get a life without some help when you are kind of messed up from truama, etc., plus retraumatization and stigma, and at the end of your own resources. Supportive community is and has been, for me, a big help.
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