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View Poll Results: Has a therapist ever told you were one the most intelligent or smartest clients they
Yes 19 25.33%
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19 25.33%
No 33 44.00%
No
33 44.00%
Not smartest but the most something else 2 2.67%
Not smartest but the most something else
2 2.67%
The therapist alluded to it but did not directly say it 15 20.00%
The therapist alluded to it but did not directly say it
15 20.00%
maybe 1 1.33%
maybe
1 1.33%
other 5 6.67%
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Old May 06, 2018, 08:35 AM
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I am not convinced that critical thinking and rationality are qualities which would be particularly evident in a therapeutic context where emotion and relationship (essentially subjective) are the focus of the work. It makes sense to me that a therapist could justifiably comment on a client's commitment to the work, on how reflective they are, on their emotional state etc, but to make a comment on intelligence seems misplaced.

If there is a bias on this forum, I think it's more likely to be that active users here are very involved with their therapist and the therapy itself and so are eager to see themselves as the bright young things in the therapy room. I include myself in this, of course. I love it when she thinks I am remarkable, but the grey truth is that I am not and probably neither are many other posters here.
I agree with the second paragraph but not with the first one. My own therapy more often involved cognitive, intellectual type discussions than focusing on feelings and the relationship. It did because I directed it that way and I guess at least one of my Ts was a good partner for that. We talked about feelings a lot but often in a more detached, analytical, critical way, as a discussion. I read here other people reporting similar experiences - I really think that a certain type of client tends to do this more and kinda prefers it almost, and I think this type is quite abundant on this forum. Not hard to conclude that we have a tendency of intellectualizing. Of course it is not the same as being highly intelligent.

I do consider myself intelligent but more in a cognitive, academic way, it has always shown in pretty much all areas of my life and people comment on it all the time. I don't think it is distorted perception or false image. Socially and generally emotionally, definitely not. I think people are often aware of their own strengths (or mental weapons) and try to use that in interactions and as defenses, even in therapy, whether it is the right thing to do or not - mostly because it comes more easily, feels more satisfying, and we are more used to achieving results with those abilities and skills. I also think that many Ts actually think about themselves as highly intelligent, whatever that means. Intelligence really is a rather vague term IMO, which is used a lot in general, especially in this high-tech era of ours when information, complex perception, analytical skills etc tend to be primary values for a lot of people. These are things many people like to identify with and like to project it as well. I don't think that therapists as a group are exempt from this trend - after all, it's a pretty theoretical profession where feelings are meant to be dissected and not merely experienced.
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Old May 06, 2018, 08:37 AM
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Both my therapist and psychiatrist have said so. But, as another said above, this is usually said in response to my talking down about my intellect and calling myself an idiot.
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Old May 06, 2018, 09:03 AM
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Not "the smartest," but they all tell me it's obvious that I'm very intelligent.
Same here--not comparing me to their other clients so much, just an observation.
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Old May 06, 2018, 09:05 AM
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My T said I was thoughtful. I think I have an average or just slightly above average IQ, but it's combined with empathy and high sensitivity which makes me quite good at psychological or therapeutic work. However I still can get quite irrational and neurotic, anyway
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Old May 06, 2018, 01:23 PM
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I’d lose all respect for a therapist if they told me that.

In part because I’d wonder how they viewed themselves.

Also because, at least in my experience, it’s felt either like a passive-aggressive jab or like a cop-out by the person saying it (i.e., they can’t do whatever’s needed coz they aren’t as smart as I am).

I have been told that in an off-handed way by therapists I was checking out (and to me, it was a strike against them) but no one I’ve seen in a long-term basis has told me that (wouldn’t have seen them otherwise).

Blondie sometimes has said that I’m what therapists call “psychologically minded” (interested in learning more about why I behave the way I do etc) and she’s found it hilarious that at times, I can slip into this mode of doing a “meta narrative” (commenting on what is going on even as it’s happening; and sometimes when I’m responding to her in a more emotional way but also simultaneously providing a cognition-based narrative on what is happening internally and in the room).

But, that’s not a comment by her on intelligence or smartness (because clearly it’s neither of those things) but on how I tend to easily slip into a commentary mode.

And, the only thing she’s said (which she hasn’t repeated) which pissed me off was when she said she couldn’t argue the way apparently I can (when we were rupturous) but as it turns out, she is pretty good at arguing (unless I manage to hit some emotional weak spot of hers unknowingly).
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Old May 06, 2018, 01:32 PM
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Nah. My therapist doesn't say things like that. If she talks about her clients at all (which is very rare), it's vague (no names, no genders). It's more like, "I've had other clients dealing with ABC too and some of them find it helpful to do XYZ." Or, "Yup, you're just like other clients in that sense. You're doing the right thing." So basically, she only talks about and compares me to other clients when she finds it helpful. I wouldn't find it helpful if my therapist called me "intelligent" or "the most intelligent"...

Even if I'm heavily depressed and calling myself dumb, my therapist telling me that I'm "the most intelligent client" wouldn't be helpful.
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Old May 06, 2018, 01:46 PM
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When I told him about my scholarships and gpa he said that I’m much more intelligent than I like to let on. That could sound like an insult, but I think he has a point, so I didn’t take it in a bad way.
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Old May 06, 2018, 07:52 PM
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I have been told while in the psych ward that I am too smart to be there.

My pdoc (who does some therapy with me) tells me that to do my job, I must be smart. We have talked in depth/detail about my job, so her comment is not based solely on my title. It's something she knows I don't "feel" is true, but she doesn't compare me to other patients.

My current T talks about how I am gifted and that has influenced the way I experience life. She normalizes my thoughts/feelings/reactions and will specify when the reason those feel "wrong" is because I am at the far end of the bell curve rather than closer to the middle. She doesn't, however, compare me to her other clients.
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Old May 06, 2018, 08:54 PM
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completely irrelevant: but every time i read this thread title, i read it as "...most intelligent, and most smartest," which makes me laugh and think of the movie Drop Dead Gorgeous.
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Old May 06, 2018, 09:35 PM
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I had one tell me that I was smarter than she was...which, in retrospect, was probably true - although I don't think she actually believed that.
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Old May 06, 2018, 11:34 PM
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She has told me that I am "very smart" but no comparison to other clients on that one. She does say that I may be the biggest smarta** of her clients though.... I wear that badge with honor.
Yeah, I definitely wear the smarta** badge with pride... she brings that up a lot

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When I told him about my scholarships and gpa he said that I’m much more intelligent than I like to let on. That could sound like an insult, but I think he has a point, so I didn’t take it in a bad way.
I get that a lot too. I'm in college and am often self-deprecating about my grades, scholarships, abilities, etc. She tries to force me to look objectively at my grades and say "See? You are smart." It doesn't usually convince me. But I appreciate her trying.
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Old May 07, 2018, 01:44 AM
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Both my recent therapists know my IQ because IQ testing was part of my full assessment. Both acknowledge it but neither compared me to other clients. My IQ is very high but I don't feel very smart and I don't think I come across that way to others either. I do learn things super quickly but I suck so badly in other areas of life that it sort of neutralizes any benefit of intelligence.
If anything I think my Ts would probably think the IQ test must be wrong, LOL.
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Old May 07, 2018, 06:29 AM
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he's called me brilliant but I feel it was a joke
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Old May 07, 2018, 06:54 AM
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Either this forum has an unusually high level of unusually intelligent clients or there's a lot of therapists churning out the same chat to clients. It's embarrassing to read actually.

My therapist once observed how emotionally unintelligent I am.
Yep.
Also lol at the all the humblebragging.
« My therapist has said I am SO smart! » aka « I am super smart and super special ».
I think when therapists say that it’s definitely a way to manipulate clients: you are a good client therefore I am throwing you a compliment.
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Old May 07, 2018, 10:23 AM
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I put it down to therapists turning out the same nonsense across the board.
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Old May 07, 2018, 04:37 PM
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The only thing that my therapist that has ever said that compared me to other clients is that I generally come in more prepared and am more willing to talk about uncomfortable things than some clients. I don't really consider that manipulative. It's probably true. Therapy is kind of expensive for me, and I've been pretty miserable. So I'm motivated.

I expect that I am smarter than some of his other clients, but that's sort of an accident of birth rather than something I did, so I wouldn't consider it a particularly useful complement. The only time I really think about intelligence is if I think I am smarter than the therapist, which I absolutely was once. But I don't think I am smarter than the one I have now.
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Old May 07, 2018, 05:22 PM
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Yep. Also lol at the all the humblebragging. « My therapist has said I am SO smart! » aka « I am super smart and super special ». I think when therapists say that it’s definitely a way to manipulate clients: you are a good client therefore I am throwing you a compliment.
Hey, we are just reporting what the ts said. Nobody here ever believes what their t tells them - why would that change for this one topic?
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