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Old May 29, 2018, 06:42 AM
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I agree that you need to leave this T, but I also get your concerns about the letter. Could you maybe take a break from her while you check out other T's, with the option to come back in August if you can't seem to get a T who will write you a letter? Or...is it possible she could just write the letter for you now, then you can go find another T? (Or does it have to be a T who's treating you at the time you have the surgery?)

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Old May 29, 2018, 08:05 AM
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Are you sure that she will even write the letter? She doesn't sound at all trustworthy. I would be concerned that she said yes only as a way to keep you coming back and reprogram you into her version of normal, which is a pretty effed up version if her friend is any kind of gauge.
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Old May 29, 2018, 08:22 PM
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Someone like your therapist should not be practicing. I can't wrap my mind around what she is doing. She is condoning abuse, plain and simple. I'd run away from her as fast as I could. It's too bad she cannot be disciplined for what she is doing. It's really worth to spend some time trying to find a better therapist who'd write you the letter then to stay in this abusive relationship with her. Yes, I consider what she is doing to you abusive. If you leave sessions feeling bad about yourself, you are being emotionally abused.
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So sorry this is late! I haven't been on here in a bit because of life circumstances.
Time for another update:
I told her that I can't keep coming there because it's too expensive and I can just look for another place that takes my insurance. My only problem is that I don't know how long I have to be seeing a therapist before they can write the letter for me. Her response was: "I'll ask for a fee readjustment and if we have to see each other for a longer amount of time, we can until you switch over to another place." I asked about the letter and she said, "How do you feel about needing a letter?" I said that it sucked to have to prove my identity, but I understood that doctors want people to be sure of what they want. She said, "And doctors have families and they need to be protected, too." So, once again, I had to consider other people's feelings and I didn't get a yes or no. My friend goes to a place that takes my insurance and they're trans and trauma friendly. I'm going to call them and call the hospital where my consultation is and ask for specifics. I can't take that anymore. If I have to wait longer, then so be it. But I need a safe space. Plus my mom is pissed off so she's urging me to see another person. My mom is so protective. I love her! >///< I think, in this case, quality is better than quantity.

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Just want to address this part. It's abuse. I've witnessed it done frequently to a sibling and it's abuse. Your therapist not saying "that's wrong"...plus other comments you've described about her... she's not a safe person. You're better off looking for a genuinely LGBTQ affirming therapist. Many say they ARE, when they're not.

Personally I would find it extremely painful to work with a therapist who thinks it's OK to beat a gender non conforming kid for gender non conforming behaviour. That's abuse. And personally I cannot be friends with that people who think such abuse is OK.

And why do some people, including some therapists, like to push forgiveness? Forgiveness is NOT a prerequisite to healing, nor is it necessarily a goal "everyone should have". . If it happens, it happens.

Empowerment is so critical for us survivors and your therapist is being really harmful.

Some people say this kind of pushing that your therapist is doing is spiritual abuse.

I've a non binary friend who had to ditch several therapists before finding one that's a good fit. Their therapist is one who understands and treats complex trauma from various abuses including CSA, plus is a qualified gender therapist.

Best of luck. You deserve better.

Thanks a lot, Quiet Mind. Your friend hit the jackpot. I'm going to look into that center I'm interested in to see if they have therapists that are LGBTQ affirming and trauma friendly. My friend is also trans and he goes there and loves it. I thought I was lucky when I found this therapist because she's also queer but I guess I was wrong. And I also feel very uncomfortable with the fact that she is okay with her friend beating her child if he shows a hint of masculinity. After I said, "She beats her son?" She said, "Not beats, just jostles him around." I think she was trying to cover up what she said. =/

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No, no , no. The therapist is not well trained in trauma at the very least, or is a bad apple Imo. That is hurtful and dehumanizing, both her invective to "pardon" and her weird off pitch stories about her psycho friend. I have literally never written this before: you have to fire her. I agree with quiet mind she is an unsafe person, and there ARE safe people for you.

Years ago, I had a student transition. He was born as an intersex person, and his parents made th e decision to make him a girl, and he lived as a girl until puberty. My class of 12th graders were so respectful and listening; he would say as someone intersex, my view on this passage in the novel is xyz, and the other kids would engage that as a legitimate and valuable viewpoint, and there was a ton of peer pressure to do so.

I feel like your T is giving you less safety than my class.

Your T should understand herself thoroughly if cisfemale yes, but even if she hasn't iexplored within herself and out into culture, there's a level of empathy beneath which sh falls not just as a T but as a human, from your description.

Sorry for being fired up about this, maybe more than is helpful. I just feel we are all vulnerable in the patient/ T relationship, and they are called upon to honor that.

No need to apologize at all! It is very validating. I wish I could be in your class. It would have been great to have an accepting class like that growing up. My T is a cisfemale, so I guess she still has some things to learn. We're always learning and it never stops, but it seems like she has a ways to go. And you're right. Being in therapy is a very vulnerable thing. It's supposed to be a safe space. If I'm leaving all of the time feeling horrible, then it's doing more harm than good.

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I am struggling to see what exactly she is qualified to be.

A therapist she is not.

I don't even know what to say about her child abusing "friend".

It's like she has taken some aspects of being a therapist and applied them to her friendships.

This constant "I" And "My" do this, in an attempt to invalidate your thoughts, feelings and experiences is just a no no.

You have to forgive your abuser?
Do you though?

It's like she likes the idea of being a T but has no idea how to actually apply the theory.

Hope your able to find a T better suited to your needs.

I agree. I don't think she's a good fit for me. Maybe other people may like her approach but I don't. I don't like it when people push the "forgiveness". My old therapist said I didn't need to forgive my grandma, and the sessions were about me. We went at my own pace and she was very sweet. She didn't get some stuff, but the empathy was there. I wish she didn't leave the counseling center.

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I agree that you need to leave this T, but I also get your concerns about the letter. Could you maybe take a break from her while you check out other T's, with the option to come back in August if you can't seem to get a T who will write you a letter? Or...is it possible she could just write the letter for you now, then you can go find another T? (Or does it have to be a T who's treating you at the time you have the surgery?)

That's the question I'm going to ask the hospital, if it has to be a T that's treating me at the time of the surgery, and also how long I have to be seeing that T. I called the hospital and they said they will get back to me and, once I get an answer, I'll take it from there. Your suggestion is a really good one. I'll keep that in the back of my mind. Thank you!

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Are you sure that she will even write the letter? She doesn't sound at all trustworthy. I would be concerned that she said yes only as a way to keep you coming back and reprogram you into her version of normal, which is a pretty effed up version if her friend is any kind of gauge.

That's now a concern of mine. She's not being forward with me. She's already trying to keep me there. She doesn't listen to what I have to say and I'm tired of that. =/

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Someone like your therapist should not be practicing. I can't wrap my mind around what she is doing. She is condoning abuse, plain and simple. I'd run away from her as fast as I could. It's too bad she cannot be disciplined for what she is doing. It's really worth to spend some time trying to find a better therapist who'd write you the letter then to stay in this abusive relationship with her. Yes, I consider what she is doing to you abusive. If you leave sessions feeling bad about yourself, you are being emotionally abused.

You're right. I started looking into another place that takes my insurance and it has a good reputation. My friend goes there and loves it. I can't condone her behavior anymore and it's like everything I say gets pushed to the side. I don't get why my mental health has to revolve around other people...
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