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Old Jan 08, 2019, 11:50 PM
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So basically ripped T a new one for. not putting a "?" at the end of her email reply.

Struggling from med withdrawal. Emailed T. And she didn't put a "?" at the end of her "hope you're OK"

Told her I don't need her generic question less reply.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 12:05 AM
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Obviously I’m missing the context of the email, but couldn’t “hope you’re ok” be a statement?
I’m sorry to hear you are struggling.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 12:21 AM
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I would see it as a statement too. It may be implied that your need to email may signal an issue , problem or question. Seeing positive intent in others is useful unless they prove over and over that their intentions are malicious.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 01:24 AM
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I didn't see it as a statement. I saw it as an off hand comment.
She did reply after "what's happening?"
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 01:49 AM
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I would understand it's a statement, too. It didn't have to be a question, but a wish meaning she hopes you're OK.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 03:43 AM
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Remember. This isn't happening in a conscious level.
I've obviously wanted to dump something on T.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 07:35 AM
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Just seen this. She sent it 22hrs ago...

Dear *****

I’d like to be able to help you. I realise it’s hard, but if you can tell me what’s happening, maybe I can help.

Love,

*****
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 08:08 AM
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Just seen this. She sent it 22hrs ago...

Dear *****

I’d like to be able to help you. I realise it’s hard, but if you can tell me what’s happening, maybe I can help.

Love,

*****
That's a person who hears what you are saying and doesn't just attend to the comprehension of the words. I don't think it's often possible for everyone, including every T, especially if s/he has not known you for the many years your T has, to be able to hear what you are saying. Sometimes, as they say in preschool, you have to be able to use your words, to articulate with some precision your experience internal and external, and not just dump away and expect understanding.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 08:30 AM
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That's a person who hears what you are saying and doesn't just attend to the comprehension of the words. I don't think it's often possible for everyone, including every T, especially if s/he has not known you for the many years your T has, to be able to hear what you are saying. Sometimes, as they say in preschool, you have to be able to use your words, to articulate with some precision your experience internal and external, and not just dump away and expect understanding.
It's a, process. First I dump. Turn I find the words.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 08:41 AM
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Hugs Jessica. It's good that you feel safe enough with her to 'rip her a new one'. What does the absence of the question mark mean to you?

Are you happy with her response? Seems short but concerned.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 09:04 AM
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Hugs Jessica. It's good that you feel safe enough with her to 'rip her a new one'. What does the absence of the question mark mean to you?

Are you happy with her response? Seems short but concerned.
I am. I've replied. She's offered to see me earlier than planned.

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Old Jan 09, 2019, 09:39 AM
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It's a, process. First I dump. Turn I find the words.
I get process, though it's not my preferred one. I am not saying it is negative for you, just not something I want to do. My goal is to speak the words without dumping on anyone else. Goal. Not perfected process.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 09:49 AM
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I get process, though it's not my preferred one. I am not saying it is negative for you, just not something I want to do. My goal is to speak the words without dumping on anyone else. Goal. Not perfected process.
OK....... I'm not sure why you're preaching.
Fortunately I don't have a T that holds any judgements nor critises anything I do in any given way.

The result being. I feel heard. By reaching out to her in the best way I could in the moment.

Perhaps give it a try?
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 09:58 AM
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OK....... I'm not sure why you're preaching.
Fortunately I don't have a T that holds any judgements nor critises anything I do in any given way.

The result being. I feel heard. By reaching out to her in the best way I could in the moment.

Perhaps give it a try?
To me, saying what my goal is -- not preaching. I'm not interested in putting out any more dumps in the world, already enough in my opinion, including those who have dumped on me. And I've done my own dumping and don't find it useful anymore. Just because I don't want to do what you do doesn't mean I am criticizing or judging. What's right for you is not necessarily true for other people, what's right for me may not be right for you. Not saying you should do anything differently. Fortunately I have a T who has helped me develop to the place where I can articulate difficult things. Not always right away, in every given moment, but slowly and surely the words make their way to the surface. That is my goal.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 10:06 AM
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To me, saying what my goal is -- not preaching. I'm not interested in putting out any more dumps in the world, already enough in my opinion, including those who have dumped on me. And I've done my own dumping and don't find it useful anymore. Just because I don't want to do what you do doesn't mean I am criticizing or judging. What's right for you is not necessarily true for other people, what's right for me may not be right for you. Not saying you should do anything differently. Fortunately I have a T who has helped me develop to the place where I can articulate difficult things. Not always right away, in every given moment, but slowly and surely the words make their way to the surface. That is my goal.

Dear god.
Have a, word with yourself.
It's therapy.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 10:57 AM
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It's easy to be snide and snarky with people, harder to explain what you mean when someone tries to mock you for it. But I'm fine with myself and my therapy, and done with this.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 11:08 AM
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OK....... I'm not sure why you're preaching.

Fortunately I don't have a T that holds any judgements nor critises anything I do in any given way.


The result being. I feel heard. By reaching out to her in the best way I could in the moment.


Perhaps give it a try?
lol you should give it a try. God that is laughable
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 11:56 AM
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lol you should give it a try. God that is laughable

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Old Jan 09, 2019, 12:23 PM
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Jesus mother and Mary.
I've just emailed her again saying thanks for the offer of a nearer time.
But I should never have involved/told you and will keep to my regular day.
Don't reply!

I'm f**king crazy 😜 👍😂
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 01:30 PM
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Med withdrawal sucks. Sorry you're going through that. If this is a planned thing, perhaps you can take it slower? Sometimes even psychiatrists titrate down too quickly. My impression is they think it's stupid to drag out the process too much. However, they aren't the ones who are going to suffer withdrawal effects.
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Old Jan 09, 2019, 02:24 PM
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Med withdrawal sucks. Sorry you're going through that. If this is a planned thing, perhaps you can take it slower? Sometimes even psychiatrists titrate down too quickly. My impression is they think it's stupid to drag out the process too much. However, they aren't the ones who are going to suffer withdrawal effects.
Thanks for this.

And thanks for responding and not making this thread about you!
Thanks for this!
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 12:37 AM
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Read this quote about therapy and using an attentive listener rather than....

"How often do people hear an initial statement from a friend and then proceed to use this as a ‘prompt’ to manipulate the subject round to themselves and their own experience? Have you, the reader of this post, found this happening?"

I was nodding to this remembering certain interactions on this thread...
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 06:05 AM
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Many times the way to relate to something is through our own history. (In therapy the set up is different as it should be concentrated purely on the client.) Irl, here also, we all have our own experiences and share them, and often it is most helpful to hear how others have managed in a situation. It is conversation, not manipulation.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 06:17 AM
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Many times the way to relate to something is through our own history. (In therapy the set up is different as it should be concentrated purely on the client.) Irl, here also, we all have our own experiences and share them, and often it is most helpful to hear how others have managed in a situation. It is conversation, not manipulation.

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Old Jan 10, 2019, 06:30 AM
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I hope you will find more peace while interacting with others. It must be very painful for you to have that strong need to put others down. I often like your posts and ideas a lot, but leaving out some of the aggression could be something you want to try?
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