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Old Jul 15, 2020, 11:26 AM
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 11:27 AM
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I basically spent that whole session sobbing to Dr. T about various things as he empathized. I think it helped to get all that out, but I'm sort of exhausted now.

Though I have to say, his comment of "Even the 1918 influenza eventually ended. Not well, but it ended" was maybe not the best (his point was that was before biochemistry and stuff existed).
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 11:47 AM
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Yeah, but it didn't end through human agency. The virus disappeared and jumped to pigs. And it's now H1N1, which is just a seasonal flu virus except for the brief pandemic in 2009 with comparatively few deaths, and for which there is a vaccine. So it did actually end pretty well, imo.

Maybe a better way for him to put it would be if we didn't have so many developments in modern medicine and science since then, COVID in 1918 would have been a lot worse than the Spanish flu was. So we're really actually ahead of the game.

And because I feel like this whole post is too Dr. T in tone, here's some good news about a COVID vaccine.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 11:59 AM
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Life has always been dangerous and no matter what we all die in the end one way or another.
I have less faith in a vaccine right off the bat than I do in just staying back from others. There have been some horrible rushed vaccine situations. I will not be in the batch of people who get a vaccine right off the bat - not until it has been out for a couple of years.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 12:00 PM
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Wait, that eventually became H1N1? Didn't know that. I think by "didn't end well" was that the second wave was deadlier than the first, which he's brought up before. He's not exactly he cheeriest T... (I still think of the time, pre-pandemic, when he made the comment that we all ultimately die alone.)
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 12:02 PM
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I agree - we do all die alone. I guess I don't find it upsetting as a concept.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 12:24 PM
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Wait, that eventually became H1N1? Didn't know that.
Yup. Obviously in 1918 scientists couldn't get a genetic sequence of the virus, but in the 1990s they managed to find some still-frozen lung tissue in a 1918 victim buried in the Alaskan permafrost in which the virus hadn't decayed and were able to analyze it. It was the same strain as H1N1, which had been identified separately since 1918 as affecting pigs.

ETA: Looks like my school is starting to fold: now all classes with over 100 enrolled are automatically becoming remote (i.e., Zoom). Our staff scheduler expects that they may move down the ladder to lower-enrollment classes and do the same thing there.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 12:38 PM
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Life has always been dangerous and no matter what we all die in the end one way or another.
I have less faith in a vaccine right off the bat than I do in just staying back from others. There have been some horrible rushed vaccine situations. I will not be in the batch of people who get a vaccine right off the bat - not until it has been out for a couple of years.
Im always first for my flu vaccine, but not for a covid vaccine.

SD, youve been staying back in the couch library anteroom since before it was a thing! Youre prescient!
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 12:39 PM
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Life has always been dangerous and no matter what we all die in the end one way or another.
I have less faith in a vaccine right off the bat than I do in just staying back from others. There have been some horrible rushed vaccine situations. I will not be in the batch of people who get a vaccine right off the bat - not until it has been out for a couple of years.

I'm putting more faith in them finding better ways to treat Covid. They've already made some progress with that, in terms of stuff like remdesvir (sp?), blood thinners in some cases, recognizing and treating cytokine storm, using positioning before ventilators, etc. That would make it less deadly at least. A vaccine would be great, but they never found one for HIV (granted, that's a very complicated virus), and they've found treatments that have made it more of a chronic condition than a death sentence.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 12:47 PM
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SD, youve been staying back in the couch library anteroom since before it was a thing! Youre prescient!
Stopdog is actually a cat. They invented social distancing.

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Old Jul 15, 2020, 03:05 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 03:36 PM
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I find a bit of happiness when I read The Onion
New Report Links Nationwide Decline In Mental Health To Not Being Able To Eat Inside Hard Rock Cafe
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 03:39 PM
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Saw this online and thought the Couch might appreciate it...

Couch 217: The Order of the Phoenix couch
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 03:41 PM
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I would have loved to have the therapist locked in a box away from me.
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I just knew you were gonna say that before I saw that you did
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 05:09 PM
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My therapist rescheduled our appointment for tomorrow. I'm so glad that she's ok and also glad that she was able to reschedule so I could still have an appointment this week.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 05:28 PM
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I would poke a couple of holes in the box so they could breathe. And put down some cedar shavings and throw in some lettuce and carrots once a day.
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I would poke a couple of holes in the box so they could breathe. And put down some cedar shavings and throw in some lettuce and carrots once a day.
I attributed these comments to LT!!
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 05:51 PM
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So half the faculty of my college (arts and sciences) within my university have requested medical waivers not to teach face to face this fall. (ETA: Assume that doesn't include disability accommodations like mine.)

Half.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 05:54 PM
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Maybe schools will get the message. I'd like to see more admin teach.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 06:09 PM
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Would work for the guinea pigs, except need a wood other than cedar!
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 07:03 PM
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i love the smell of cedar.
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 08:17 PM
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I attributed these comments to LT!!
good lord no - I would actually take care of guinea pigs
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Old Jul 15, 2020, 08:27 PM
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i love the smell of cedar.
Yeah, i love juniper. The nuns had the most awesome tiny evergreen park behind the church, it was Sooooo fragrant after a rain.
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I hate the news they are whipping up a frenzy over the increase in covid in one of our states but thats only because they have increased the testing.
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