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Old Mar 26, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2021, 01:10 PM
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Lol. Far be it from me to prescribe anything. This is the theoretical definition of PTC. You were the one who brought up the theory, so at least give the factual definition of it, not one that suits your arguments.
Oh yes, sorry, I completely misread what you said! I wasn't paying full attention, sorry for the confusion and for being sharp in my reply.

However, I did give an accurate definition as it is used in Gestalt therapy. It wasn't cherry picked to suit me, it is part of the theoretical approach of my therapy.
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Old Mar 26, 2021, 03:05 PM
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I know this as I pay dearly for my visits. Now where I live, if one is disabled or at the poverty line, they are entitled to a lot of govt. assistance. Food stamps and medicaid are obtainable if one is at the poverty line. Medicaid is very obtainable to get if you can't work and are at the poverty level. There are tons of people around that are on these programs. Those on medicaid are getting FREE HEALTHCARE and FREE MEDICATION. So, I know what I am talking about. I actually live with someone in this situation.
Yes I know what Medicaid is. But if you aren’t on disability (Sara said she isn't) yet you don’t work and don’t have dependents and are young, it’s not that easy to stay on government assistance indefinitely. Sweden also provides government assistance and free medical care. I am from that part of the world and familiar with what’s happening there and here.
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Old Mar 27, 2021, 12:25 AM
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This is a great thread. I often learn so much here!

I wonder Sarah, if you could dictate the particulars of your treatment or of your supportive counseling chats, what would you choose? What kind of therapy with what kind of therapist? Do you want someone who listens gently or who pushes and challenges? Do you want a structured program? Inpatient? Day hospital? More holistic? Emphasis on nutrition and exercise?

I ask not because you can necessarily just have whatever you want but because I’m truly curious as to what you think might be most helpful to you. Often something works at least partly because we think it will.

Also once you know what you want, you can ask for it. You might not get it. But you can try. Sometimes between the library and the internet you can even create a bit of a treatment plan for yourself.
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Old Mar 27, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Yes I know what Medicaid is. But if you aren’t on disability (Sara said she isn't) yet you don’t work and don’t have dependents and are young, it’s not that easy to stay on government assistance indefinitely. Sweden also provides government assistance and free medical care. I am from that part of the world and familiar with what’s happening there and here.
I used to work for the Dept. of Human Services, helping clients obtain benefits.

I forgot to mention that you don't have to be on disability to qualify for medicaid or food stamps.

At another job, I have had coworkers whom were on medicaid and food stamps. Some were working 30 - 35 hours.

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Old Mar 27, 2021, 01:31 PM
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Lots of therapists don't take Medicaid though. In my area, based on my research, a majority don't take any insurance at all. I'm lucky in that my insurance provides some out-of-network benefits (50% reimbursed). And some could be above the Medicaid threshold (and thus ineligible for it), yet still be unable to afford therapy due to other expenses (I also live in a particularly expensive part of the country, but incomes vary pretty widely in my area).
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Old Mar 27, 2021, 02:13 PM
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Yes, that is the problem with medicaid. Many providers don't accept it because of it's low pay.
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Old Mar 28, 2021, 10:19 AM
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I used to work for the Dept. of Human Services, helping clients obtain benefits.

I forgot to mention that you don't have to be on disability to qualify for medicaid or food stamps.

At another job, I have had coworkers whom were on medicaid and food stamps. Some were working 30 - 35 hours.
I am well aware you don’t have to be on disability to have Medicaid and food stamps. You don’t have to be on disability to receive free services in Sweden either. She doesn’t work for years but receives government assistance and free medical. I really don’t understand what point you are trying to make.

There is a limit of how much and for how long one can be in a welfare system in the US in the absence of disability and with no dependents. Same as in Sweden people will be pushed into work programs or vocational retraining etc The difference is they do have public health system, and we in the US don’t. But both countries have limitations on how much and how long you can be on government assistance and don’t work at all (not being on disability)

I do not know how familiar you are with Scandinavian or other European countries but you can’t possibly have an argument that US provides more government assistance. It’s simply not the case. It’s the other way around and has been always a known fact.
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Old Mar 28, 2021, 04:23 PM
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I think in the US - it just shows how overpaid they are and how screwed up the western medicine corporation is.
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