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Old Nov 27, 2021, 12:04 PM
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That is true, I guess most people don't consider those dangers... I've always been very aware of these risks so maybe I'm a bit biased now.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 12:12 PM
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The difference between Covid and "the usual suspects" is that the usual rules of an individual's disease do not apply to a pandemic virus which relies on public health measures and the responsible actions of others in order to curtail it. The actions of others are (generally speaking) outside of our control and things which we cannot control are inherently stressful and anxiety provoking. Worrying seems rather reasonable response when you, your loved ones and everyone else in the world is at risk of death because of the risks which *other people* take.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 12:17 PM
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That is true, I guess most people don't consider those dangers... I've always been very aware of these risks so maybe I'm a bit biased now.
I have my whole final exit worked out for several scenarios(I have about 4 copies of the book stuffed around my house). I don't particularly want to be dead just now, but I am not leaving it up to western medicine. I am definitely biased in favor of death not being the worst that can happen to a person.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 12:59 PM
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One administrator's response to my school not fulfilling an accommodations request for me: "This was a temporary non-optimal outcome."
I cannot get this line out of my head. It is so lawyerese (no offense, SD) and it doesn't even begin to describe failing to honor someone's civil rights or even admit a problem or take into account the human effect.

I mean, it's not such a big step from that to describing someone with a disability like me as a non-optimal outcome, or thinking about hiring someone with a disability as a non-optimal outcome.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 01:00 PM
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The difference between Covid and "the usual suspects" is that the usual rules of an individual's disease do not apply to a pandemic virus which relies on public health measures and the responsible actions of others in order to curtail it. The actions of others are (generally speaking) outside of our control and things which we cannot control are inherently stressful and anxiety provoking. Worrying seems rather reasonable response when you, your loved ones and everyone else in the world is at risk of death because of the risks which *other people* take.
This is a good point and an accurate (at least for me) description of the difference. For example, I don't have to worry about catching cancer from eating indoors at a restaurant (or going to a concert) because someone else there might have it. Or if I have it, I can't pass it to my daughter or parents.

Driving is perhaps a good comparison, as you can't control what other drivers do--but, as I've discussed with Dr. T before, and similar to what SD said, we've become used to those risks and don't consider how high they really are. Whereas Covid is still relatively new and constantly in the news.

And it's not just about possible death, but also long Covid--I know someone who experienced that, and it sounded really miserable (like she couldn't work for months).
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 01:18 PM
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I cannot get this line out of my head. It is so lawyerese (no offense, SD) and it doesn't even begin to describe failing to honor someone's civil rights or even admit a problem or take into account the human effect.

I mean, it's not such a big step from that to describing someone with a disability like me as a non-optimal outcome, or thinking about hiring someone with a disability as a non-optimal outcome.
"Mistakes were made."

Seriously, I gasped out loud when I first read that line in the first post and thought "Are you f-ing kidding?" It is so reasonable to just treat you like a human being and make sure that you can direct your full attention to the topic at hand just like everyone else. They are giant a-holes, @@.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 01:59 PM
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I cannot get this line out of my head. It is so lawyerese (no offense, SD) and it doesn't even begin to describe failing to honor someone's civil rights or even admit a problem or take into account the human effect.
I am sorry you are going through this.
That is some good legalese going on there
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 02:18 PM
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This is a good point and an accurate (at least for me) description of the difference. For example, I don't have to worry about catching cancer from eating indoors at a restaurant (or going to a concert) because someone else there might have it. Or if I have it, I can't pass it to my daughter or parents.

Driving is perhaps a good comparison, as you can't control what other drivers do--but, as I've discussed with Dr. T before, and similar to what SD said, we've become used to those risks and don't consider how high they really are. Whereas Covid is still relatively new and constantly in the news.

And it's not just about possible death, but also long Covid--I know someone who experienced that, and it sounded really miserable (like she couldn't work for months).
Actually I do think that any number of foods are so bad, so pesticide infused and so prevalent in our society that eating (in or out -it doesn't matter) is dangerous.
But there is only so much you can do.
You can catch stuff from others at the best of times - usually it doesn't kill you but it can. Chicken pox/strep throat can kill you or leave you with lingering side effects -"People who die from this infection often have perfectly normal immune systems," she said. "We still don’t know why an occasional person can develop a catastrophic illness with Group A strep while most other people don’t."
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 02:21 PM
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I am sorry you are going through this.
That is some good legalese going on there
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 02:27 PM
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Yeah for a while there, people were getting all kindsa flesh eating diseases from their dogs licking them. Wtf.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 03:03 PM
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There are many things that I know it's not worth my getting worked up about because worrying won't make the slightest difference, but I worry about them anyway. Believe me I'd rather not. It's not always a choice.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 03:24 PM
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Got my meds for the month. So i will be returning to my usual sanguine self. Boy, in my town, Lyft comes a lot faster than Uber, at least by my one-time use!
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 04:15 PM
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There are many things that I know it's not worth my getting worked up about because worrying won't make the slightest difference, but I worry about them anyway. Believe me I'd rather not. It's not always a choice.

This is how I feel, like worry is not a choice but simply part of who I am, so embedded in my dna that even if I did therapy for 10 more years it would still not rid me of it.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 04:46 PM
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This is how I feel, like worry is not a choice but simply part of who I am, so embedded in my dna that even if I did therapy for 10 more years it would still not rid me of it.

Same here. I've gotten a bit better with it. But if it was a choice...then why exactly would I choose it? To me, it would be akin to, say, choosing to have type I diabetes or rheumatoid arthritis. Why would I pick that, if I have the option not to?
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 06:09 PM
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This may be one of the great divides in how various people see the world. I think almost everything is a choice -it may not always be that one chooses what happens out of the sky to someone but, to me, it is always a choice in how you respond to that happening. So you may not choose rheumatoid arthritis -but one does choose how one responds to the diagnosis.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 08:43 PM
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I am on a mission to clean out my freezer so I can store more homemade food and meat in it. Dinner tonight was a Lean Cuisine so old that its “best buy” date was pre-pandemic (1/20).
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I am on a mission to clean out my freezer so I can store more homemade food and meat in it. Dinner tonight was a Lean Cuisine so old that its “best buy” date was pre-pandemic (1/20).
Thats almost funny.
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 09:00 PM
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I am on a mission to clean out my freezer so I can store more homemade food and meat in it. Dinner tonight was a Lean Cuisine so old that its “best buy” date was pre-pandemic (1/20).
I consider any food not freezer burned or fuzzy/slimy to be fine. 1/20 would be almost brand new in my freezer. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
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Thats almost funny.
I am liminal, between funny and not funny.

Pretty sure it’s not the oldest frozen meal in there, either.
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I made another hat this evening, played around a little anyway with designing. The top part is pretty much just a general double crochet hat pattern, but I started getting creative with the white yarn making the spikey thingies. I had to crop my face out because I think I look dumb in hats, they make my nose look 10 sizes too big! Like, it resembles Klinger on MASH
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Old Nov 27, 2021, 09:23 PM
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....and now the real truth comes out as to why I moved to Arizona. I don't have to wear hats in the winter....


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Then i was right! Thats whats most important!

Note humorous deployment of apostroph's.
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that made me laugh just now una thank you!!!
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Took my sweet babey to my mom's house for Thanksgiving

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