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Old Sep 05, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Yuck.

I'm glad I'm out of that community now.
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 12:39 PM
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oh my gosh, @@ I hadn't heard about that. It does seem against the whole idea in general.

So far anyway, from what I've heard the only thing my poetry group uses AI for is to obtain poetry prompts if even that, but not for the actual writing. Then again it's not as big of a thing as NaNoWriMo is I'm sure there are a lot less people involved.

Speaking of my poetry group, our fearless leader just published his first book and did a reading for us on zoom the other night, which was wonderful. He said he's about 90% sure he's going to run the year-long poem a day challenge again in 2025. Yay! Even if he doesn't, I have no plans to end my daily writing habit. I've made a small group of friends during this challenge and we will continue collaborating on projects regardless.
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 01:56 PM
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Seeking Couch input on a work thing:

I'm a freelance copy editor with four different contracts. Two are with the same company, but for different groups of research journals. The journal group that I started with 2 years ago, I keep getting lots of negative feedback. The style is really complicated, and I seem to struggle to learn it, which isn't usually an issue for me. And they're really nitpicky about it.

I very rarely get any negative feedback from any of the other contracts I have. So this feels like I'm just not connecting with this style. I asked a higher up if there was an option to switch to a different journal (we had a phone call about it last week). She gave me a couple options, and I picked one tentatively.

Today, she emailed to say she had to inform the people on the team that I'd be leaving, and they both said how sad they were, how they thought I was doing really well. The higher-up asked if I still wanted to make the change. Now I feel conflicted. I also realize now that I should have gone to the people on the team directly about this first, but I also wanted to know what my options were. I'd hit the point where I dreaded getting an email from one of the team members.

I asked if I could have until tomorrow or Monday to let her know. Part of me feels maybe I should stay. But part of me is also like, "OK, if they thought I was doing well, couldn't they have maybe told me that at some point in the past 2 years?" And am I only thinking of staying because they're sad to see me leave, so it makes me feel wanted? At the same time, I don't know what I'm walking into, and it likely will be less work, so less money, but it's in a topic I'm somewhat more interested in.

Thoughts? Conveniently, I see Dr. T tomorrow, and I've talked to him a lot about this, so I figure he can give me guidance. I talked about it briefly with H, too, just now but his advice for now was to ask for time to think about it (then he had to get on a work call).
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 03:09 PM
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If you're at the point where you dread getting an email from one of their team, you're better off out of it.

Given that you're more drawn to the other topic, that's a bonus.

Would still be worth talking to Dr. T about it, IMO.
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 03:13 PM
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I'd think that yeah, ideally you'd have talked to them first. However, I've learned that it's important that you feel appreciated in your job and like what you're doing. It seems that receiving mostly negative feedback didn't go well for you, and that's totally reasonable. I don't think the team would change this way of working if you voiced it, the type of feedback you get is very dependent on the people and culture I find, it only really changes when you switch teams/companies, not by the needs of one person.

I'd say if you would still like the new option, go for it. A change in environment is always nice. It doesn't mean you don't like the actual people in the other team, you just didn't vibe with the work there.

Another way to put it: a team will drop you in a heartbeat if you don't meet their standards. They haven't met your standards of giving feedback, and you're just as allowed to drop them.
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 03:20 PM
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If you're at the point where you dread getting an email from one of their team, you're better off out of it.

Given that you're more drawn to the other topic, that's a bonus.

Would still be worth talking to Dr. T about it, IMO.

Thanks, Lost. You make good points. I do sort of feel like I let it go on too long, the dreading getting an email from them. But sometimes it can be easier to stay in a known situation than to make the change.

It was actually when I was in a lot of distress during the week of Dr. T's move that I sent the initial email to the higher-up. So I worried I'd acted too impulsively, but it's also something I've been thinking about for a long time (and H keeps saying to just leave). I think just being at my limit emotionally, then getting another feedback email prompted me to act. But maybe I needed something to get me there?
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 03:34 PM
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I'd think that yeah, ideally you'd have talked to them first. However, I've learned that it's important that you feel appreciated in your job and like what you're doing. It seems that receiving mostly negative feedback didn't go well for you, and that's totally reasonable. I don't think the team would change this way of working if you voiced it, the type of feedback you get is very dependent on the people and culture I find, it only really changes when you switch teams/companies, not by the needs of one person.

I'd say if you would still like the new option, go for it. A change in environment is always nice. It doesn't mean you don't like the actual people in the other team, you just didn't vibe with the work there.

Another way to put it: a team will drop you in a heartbeat if you don't meet their standards. They haven't met your standards of giving feedback, and you're just as allowed to drop them.
Thanks, CNS. Some good points here.

It does seem a bit like a personal style thing. There was another team I worked for within the same organization where the main person who communicated with me/assigned the work was very friendly. Like wishing me a good weekend, asking about my daughter, etc. Thanking me for my work on a difficult editing account. I just felt valued. It's all over email, too.

Actually, the other two contracts I have, not with this company, are like that, too, in being personable. Things like that can make a big difference. And I generally will say (to any of them) something like, "Thanks, and have a great weekend!" (if it's Friday).

And good point that they could just drop me. That's part of what's difficult about freelance, too. Though as H says, and like you said, I can just drop them as well.

Honestly, I want to change how I'm working on some level anyway--working on longer-term projects like books maybe (much of what I work on has really tight deadlines, like 2 business days). Or maybe working part-time or even full-time somewhere (though at least partly remote). It would be nice to have things like paid time off...
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Old Sep 05, 2024, 03:48 PM
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Being at capacity has an impact on so many different levels.
Could be that this is a good moment to try something new.
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Old Sep 06, 2024, 10:49 AM
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I asked if I could have until tomorrow or Monday to let her know. Part of me feels maybe I should stay. But part of me is also like, "OK, if they thought I was doing well, couldn't they have maybe told me that at some point in the past 2 years?" And am I only thinking of staying because they're sad to see me leave, so it makes me feel wanted? At the same time, I don't know what I'm walking into, and it likely will be less work, so less money, but it's in a topic I'm somewhat more interested in.
If you are thinking of staying because you really like the work then go for it but understand that they will still probably give negative feedback. If you are wanting to stay simply because they said they will sorry to see you go, I would leave. Many people feel the need to say things like that when someone leaves whether they feel that way or not. No offense, and it could actually be true, but they might actually want you to go. No one really knows at this point.

It comes down to what you want. You have to do the job everyday and deal with the people. Change is scary but change can be good. It might be uncomfortable at first but you may end up loving it or learning something new that is valuable to your future success.
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Old Sep 06, 2024, 12:38 PM
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Couch Workout Club day 37

I did two sets of my seated boxing workout today, because I fancied shaking things up.
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Old Sep 06, 2024, 02:37 PM
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If you are thinking of staying because you really like the work then go for it but understand that they will still probably give negative feedback. If you are wanting to stay simply because they said they will sorry to see you go, I would leave. Many people feel the need to say things like that when someone leaves whether they feel that way or not. No offense, and it could actually be true, but they might actually want you to go. No one really knows at this point.

It comes down to what you want. You have to do the job everyday and deal with the people. Change is scary but change can be good. It might be uncomfortable at first but you may end up loving it or learning something new that is valuable to your future success.
Thanks, Zoie. I find it telling that I'm getting very similar advice from everyone, now adding Dr. T to that list. In fact, he said something extremely similar to what you said, how someone might say something kinder if someone is leaving that doesn't align with how they generally felt about the person/their work.

Something we discussed today is also whether lots of people have decided to stop working for them much more quickly, for the same reasons I did (I'm not the only one working on that group of journals). So they might have just been glad I was still there so they didn't have to train someone completely new. Like it may have been more that I'm a warm body than my particular skill set.

I ended up emailing a bit ago to say that I was opting for the new opportunity. So, we'll see how that goes. I'd basically decided even before my session, but sometimes I need to sit with a decision for a bit before finalizing it.
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Old Sep 06, 2024, 02:52 PM
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Okay so im the only glutton for punishment who would have taken their criticisms as "nitpicking me because i am so close to perfect!" I need help. The evil introject is strong, y'all.
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Old Sep 07, 2024, 04:55 PM
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Couch Workout Club day 38

4700 steps for the day, included walking around a local craft fair.
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Old Sep 08, 2024, 02:11 AM
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LT-on work stuff. It feels good to “feel” wanted but don’t let your heart get in the way of your head. I took a break from my regular career and went to work in a school for a year (I just left the school this past March to go back to what I was doing prior). Anyway when I sat in the Directors office and gave notice she said things like “I grew to love you. And I’m so sorry to see you go”. It definitely tugged the heart strings and I almost caved, but I held strong. On the last day I got so many hugs, so many said I’ll miss you”, so many said “Let’s keep in touch” and “Please come back. There will always be a spot for you here”. I reached out to a few of the co-workers over the months. Never heard back. I don’t say this to be cruel-nobody actually cares. I mean-we here on the forum care about you and your wellbeing but in the professional world it’s different.
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Old Sep 08, 2024, 05:23 AM
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LT-on work stuff. It feels good to “feel” wanted but don’t let your heart get in the way of your head. I took a break from my regular career and went to work in a school for a year (I just left the school this past March to go back to what I was doing prior). Anyway when I sat in the Directors office and gave notice she said things like “I grew to love you. And I’m so sorry to see you go”. It definitely tugged the heart strings and I almost caved, but I held strong. On the last day I got so many hugs, so many said I’ll miss you”, so many said “Let’s keep in touch” and “Please come back. There will always be a spot for you here”. I reached out to a few of the co-workers over the months. Never heard back. I don’t say this to be cruel-nobody actually cares. I mean-we here on the forum care about you and your wellbeing but in the professional world it’s different.
Thanks, Jersey. It helps to hear your perspective. I'm glad you didn't cave. And I"m sorry you never heard back from those co-workers.

Realized I never updated the Couch: I decided to leave the account that I'm struggling with, despite their kind words (and their words weren't even directly to me). I'm trying out the other journal.
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Old Sep 08, 2024, 06:54 AM
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Couch Workout Club day 39

Went into town at the weekend - yuck.
Got 4200 steps in.
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Couch Workout Club day 39

Went into town at the weekend - yuck.
Got 4200 steps in.
Great job.

I’m going to a flea market and to the outlet mall today. We are having beautiful weather today so I must enjoy it before it gets hot again later this week. I don’t have anything to count my steps but I’m sure I’ll get my steps in for sure.
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Old Sep 08, 2024, 09:01 PM
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I’ve been back home in London for the past 5 days. I haven’t been home for over 600 days. My mother is a hoarder. Not the minor jokey kind, It got worse with my siblings leaving for university and bringing back their stuff. I could barely even get into one room, as it was so filled with junk and carrier bags. It’s not fully done. I cleared out one room, you can now walk into the second.

My mother only pulled a few items out of the carrier bag. My old coat that doesn’t zip up, but that she could send overseas for a distant relative to use as they could fix it. An old bed sheet protector . Awful I know but I also started discarding things without showing her first because I know she would make excuses and try to keep it.

I’ve donated books that have been in the cupboard for over 15 years. I’ve donated extra food at a food bank that’s still in date. I physically had to carry it, but split it up into three bags as it was so heavy.

All I’ve literally been doing, since I came back is just cleaning and decluttering. My mother has told me to rest, but I won’t be here long term, so need to get it done.

There’s still two other rooms left. I felt so overwhelmed, but started chipping away at it bit by bit by putting on my favourite musical playlists and an audiobook I listen to on repeat .

I got hurt from when I got a long cut on my foot. My fault as I wasn’t wearing shoes in the room, and got scraped by a broken clothes drying rack.

I feel so resentful towards my two younger siblings who still live at home who have barely been helping at all and also allowed things to get so bad. One is on break from university until October. The other does work 10 hour shifts, but doesn’t work every single day. The age gaps between us is 11 and 9 years.

I also booked an experience for them too. It was supposed to start at 1pm. They didn’t leave with enough time so missed it. It cost £150. The youngest is 21. I woke her up at 9am. She knew she had to go. She paid me back, but I’m still annoyed and so done with both of them. The only thing that was different this time round is that I didn’t nag, and let them sort it out themselves.

Apart from one ikea trip, I haven’t done anything for myself since I got here. I’m just going to head out by myself more.

On the plus side, I found photographs I’ve never seen before of my brother and me as kids. .
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my brother was going through a box of old photos he'd gotten from our mom last time he visited, he found some negatives that he had digitized or whatever and some of them were from one of the summers I worked at the north rim of the grand canyon. Here is yours truly, posing on the railing of one of the cabins that I cleaned, in the summer of 1986!! I was what, 24? we'll see how long i can stand to leave the picture up haha. Wish I was still that skinny.

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I didn’t see the photo. I left to watch the horror movie talk to me.

Moral of that movie, be careful picking your friends and do not under any circumstances willingly invite spirits into your body.
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Old Sep 08, 2024, 11:33 PM
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Oh, sorry I missed the photo, too, Artie! Was at a concert (and then trying to get out of the parking garage and taking a very long time to actually get on the highway from the concert).
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Old Sep 09, 2024, 12:31 AM
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The experience thing above was a photoshoot in the park. I know I have pushed this since ‘22 because I don’t actually have a lot of photographs of myself as a child. I wanted nice photos of my family too so hired someone.

I asked my father why there were hardly any of my brother and his reply was that “: I wasn’t interested”.

The photographs we do have are mainly from my aunt. I would still say there’s under 35 of me as a child.

Maybe I should stop pushing the photoshoots on my sister. I have paid for 6 sessions previously. I do think she’s still too young to understand the value of them now. I did them because I wanted to help improve her self image of herself.

I’m currently 32 and nostalgic for a rose tinted time I barely even remember. Not taking enough photos with those you love is a common regret on Reddit. Especially if that person passes away suddenly.
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Couch Workout Club day 40

I cannot believe this...

I did three sets of seated core workout exercises.
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Old Sep 09, 2024, 01:54 PM
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Couch Workout Club day 40

I cannot believe this...

I did three sets of seated core workout exercises.

Impressive! Is that a 40-day streak?
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