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Old Oct 17, 2008, 06:59 PM
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EM - I am glad that you are feeling a bit better.


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Old Oct 17, 2008, 07:05 PM
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Earthmama. I'm glad T helped you.

Try to have a calm relaxing weekend, just 'being'.

Sending you waves of peaceful thoughts and float-iness .....

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Old Oct 17, 2008, 08:27 PM
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I'm glad you had a good session with your T. I came up with this affirmation years ago: "My worth as a person is determined by my 'being' not by my 'doing'. I hope you are able to just 'be' for a while.
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"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.

"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."

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Old Oct 18, 2008, 03:03 AM
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((((earthmama))))

the year my mom died our issues hit the fan. i spiraled down into suicidal depression.

my H has never been very supportive, he was angry and did not want me to do it. finally i forced the issue and decided i had to go take care of me because i was getting to a place where i could not be sure i wouldn't do something bad to myself.

people from our church had to help our children and i spent 2 1/2 weeks in and it was my last hospitalization (i'd had 2 other small ip hosp.)

i stayed up all night before going to the hospital doing laundry so H wouldn't be angry i'd left him the laundry to do. (I really WAS sick in the mind to do that!!!) he acted like he begrudged me a ride to the hospital and i decided next time i would call a cab if i had to and thank goodness, i've never needed to do that.

long story short, YOU GOTTA CARE FOR YOU TO HELP THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can't give when the well runs dry.

you do deserve help and kindness and hope. ALL YOU ARE FEARING CAN BE WORKED OUT TO TAKE CARE OF YOU!

i do care, em hugs dear,

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Old Oct 18, 2008, 12:18 PM
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EM, I am so glad that you are feeling better ....
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 01:30 AM
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T helped so, so, so much today. I really feel way calmer.

Without rehashing the whole thing, I do think we got down to the bottom of a lot of what is going on. Basically, it's time for me to "stop running". To "stop swimming". To just float for a bit and see where the water takes me.

I have worked really, really hard since starting therapy a year ago, and I live in a very, very, VERY chaotic household (three boys, homeschooled, one with autism, plus a bunch of pets and H) and everything was just kind of coming together in an overwhelming spiral that I couldn't get out of. It was scary.

T held me today, and heard me, and calmed me, and together we figured out at least what direction we need to go in. It will be a process, but I feel better, like there is a little hope now.

So, I'm supposed to stop working so hard, and just "be". Which is why he wanted me to go to the hospital in the first place - so I could get out of the chaos, and "be", and get safe. He wants me to back out of everything I can for this weekend, and I'm going to. I am seeing a family therapist on Thursday that he highly recommends to see if I can get some ideas on how to calm my crazy kids....especially my middle autistic son, who, bless his heart, is honestly a catalyst for a lot of chaos.

I feel safe being loved right now, and safe loving T back. Things feel slower and better and less LOUD in my head. I am breathing and floating and trying to let things be.

T left me a message for this weekend to soothe me. In it, he said "stop running". That is what I'm going to try to do.

I don't feel totally out of the woods. The hospital is still a possibility, but we are going to try this first. I feel hopeful.

Thanks everyone for supporting me. Now maybe I can actually start supporting all of YOU.

((((EM))))
Actually EM, I find your posts very helpful and supportive!
I'm not as open to sharing things that I feel and experience, and you inspire me to work more towards that, no matter how fearful it might be for me.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 10:20 AM
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Earthmama,

I hope that you are having a nice relaxing weekend.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 11:22 AM
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Yesterday was good. Today, not so much.

I talk to T sometime after 2. This is crazy. I hate it.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 03:58 PM
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What is going on today that makes it worse?
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 04:03 PM
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I know what ou mean about the hospital. My T has raised it a few times and its always felt like a threat to me, but i suppose thats my illness that feels mthat. At least your T is helping you and not pushing you to go in. Please take care.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 04:40 PM
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Not to drag this thread out forever, but I am almost considering going over there. I really just want to talk to someone, I don't want to stay. I missed out on the chance to talk to T today - left a message for him and told him we didn't need to talk, I thought I would be okay. Now I realize that was stupid.

I probably can't go over and not stay. Maybe I'll call a hotline or something. Maybe T will call.

I hate this thread.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 05:19 PM
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(((((((((((((earthmama)))))))))))))))))

Do whatever you need to do to STAY SAFE.

I care about you and I am concerned.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 05:26 PM
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Not to drag this thread out forever, but I am almost considering going over there. I really just want to talk to someone, I don't want to stay. I missed out on the chance to talk to T today - left a message for him and told him we didn't need to talk, I thought I would be okay. Now I realize that was stupid.

I probably can't go over and not stay. Maybe I'll call a hotline or something. Maybe T will call.

I hate this thread.
Awww, ((((((((((((((((((EM)))))))))))))))))))))

I would call T earthmama. Your T is a lot like my T---he would be upset if you didn't call him and let him think you were okay when you really weren't.
You deserve someone to listen to you when you are going through a rough spot. This thread is a good thread as it is just exactly what this forum was designed for---empathy, advice, and SUPPORT.

We have all had bad days. Bad days--- they ALWAYS pass. You can email me SimSam2880@rocketmail.com or message me on PC--- Your not stupid, FYI--- it's just anxiety. Anxiety is the great deceiver. Don't wait for T to call-- call T before the emotions start to take hold and become too strong. Distraction, distraction, distraction!
Wishing you safe and sending you hugs-
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 05:49 PM
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I would call your T and let him know how things are going. If you need to go in, then go in. Do what is best for you!
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 06:52 PM
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(((EM)))
I hope you are doing OK. If you need to talk to someone maybe the hotline idea would be good. Hang in there.
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Call the hotline if you need.

Take care of you.
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Old Oct 19, 2008, 07:56 PM
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((((((((((((earthmama)))))))))))))

Call the hotline if you need to. They're really scary, but can be really helpful for someone to talk to. Or leave a message for T, as many as you need, and keep getting the help you need. You can do this. Breathe. You can do this, because you've made it this far, and that's a BIG thing! You're loved here, please take care of yourself - do what you need to do to be healthy and care for yourself.

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I did drive to the hospital. I just wanted to drive there to see what it would feel like. I told H I was going to Barnes and Noble.

It is about 30 minutes from my house. It's in a wooded setting, kind of nice, it was getting dark so I couldn't see much. I parked my car and got out and just PRAYED. I asked God or the universe or someone or SOMETHING to PLEASE tell me what to do. I felt safe there. I heard T in my head telling me to "stop running". But I thought about how far away my kids were and how hard it would be for someone else to care for them - especially my son with autism. I just kept praying.

Finally, I got in my car and drove home. On the way home, I decided to take a hot shower and climb in my bed with the kids to watch a movie they were watching when I left (I hate movies, so never do that). I took a shower and put on my pajamas and climbed in between them. They cuddled up with me and we watched the movie.

It reminded me that I HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THEM. The scary thoughts are so powerful....and its even scarier to feel how easy it would be to turn them into actions, how close it feels sometimes. I scared myself (again) today.

But I'm still here. And now I can say I really did make it through another day. And I have T tomorrow.

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( everyone ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) I am so grateful for the kind words and hugs and listening ears. I don't think I've ever been quite this confused.

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Old Oct 19, 2008, 08:48 PM
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Just want to say that I am thinking of you. It sounds like t. is being wonderful and supportive. But, some times it's not enough to get you thru the long haul. The hospital is only scary for a few hours the first day. After that, you meet a few people and get in to the daily groove of support groups, activity therapy, meals etc. It begins to slow your anxiety little by little. It's NOT a spa, but the staff doesn't push you in to things you are not ready for. Please consider this is if the work you are doing with t. just isn't "sticking". My H. was angry and frustrated too. He got over it. Especially when I came home sooo much better after 2wks. He really noticed a change. His anger WILL pass and you kids will have a more stable mom. The other benefit is that meds can be changed and regulated in a slow, safe place.

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Old Oct 19, 2008, 08:56 PM
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Hi Earthmama, i know that you are in a really tough situation, but try your best to stick with it. I can really feel your pain of treading water, but feeling like you're drowning. I've been there before, but i give you the best of my wishes that everything will turn out ok. Have you thought about bringing your husband with you to a therapy appointment so he could get a little bit of a bigger taste of what's happening. I know that this is rediculously hard, but I think that it is the best thing. PM me anytime if you feel like it. I'm open to anything. You can vent any of your emotions and i will always hear you.
Best of wishes,
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That took a lot of courage to drive there and see how it feels... and also to drive home and interact!
THinkng about you.
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Old Oct 20, 2008, 06:50 AM
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Kids are great sometimes.
Hope you are feeling better today.
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Old Oct 20, 2008, 08:32 AM
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I did leave T messages and e-mails yesterday. It's 9:30 Monday, still haven't heard from him.

If I don't hear from him before one I am NOT going to my appointment and I am just quitting. This is too ****ing MUCH. too much.
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Old Oct 20, 2008, 10:48 AM
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(((((((((((((((((((EM))))))))))))))))))))))))
don't push T away.
He cares for you - you KNOW he does.
You deserve his care and help.

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I did leave T messages and e-mails yesterday. It's 9:30 Monday, still haven't heard from him.

If I don't hear from him before one I am NOT going to my appointment and I am just quitting. This is too ****ing MUCH. too much.
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Old Oct 20, 2008, 11:12 AM
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EM you can't quit therapy.....
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