The DEFINITION of DEBATE -

OK - I would like to start this thread as a means of getting the opinion of every ones "personal interpretation" of the word DEBATE (what ever constitutes a debate to you).... Please no arguing with posts made by another person, for it is their belief / meaning, not yours or mine.

AND - my reason for wanting (starting) this THREAD is that I feel that many of us here at PC are seeing some comments placed in the threads as debating the topic at hand when they are not, nor were intended to be so..... and all because a post / comment was made that counteracted that of what another poster felt toward the subject at hand.

In My Opinion - we cannot assume that any post is a debate (or trying to start a debate) just because the poster believes or see matters in a different light - but rather I feel we should see the majority of the post submitted as a form of personal expression of what each individual thinks or feels on the topic being disused.... Hence the vast variety in all the TALKING & COMMUNICATION that takes place with in the many threads of PC.

We are all unique individuals and we are all allowed (given the privilege ) to see or view matters differently than others: our friends, family members, strangers and YES, even that of our online relationships.... for this is what makes AMERICA great!

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Main Dictionary Entry: The meaning of the word DEBATE

Function: verb

Inflected Form(s): de·bat·ed ; de·bat·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French debatre, from Old French,
from de- + batre to beat, from Latin battuere

1 obsolete : FIGHT , CONTEND
2 a : to contend in words b : to discuss a question by considering opposed arguments
3 : to participate in a debate

1 a : to argue about b : to engage (an opponent) in debate
2 : to turn over in one's mind

Function: noun

Pronunciation: di-'bAt, de-
: a contention by words or arguments

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IMO - a DEBATE is that which is done in an argumentive way..... to verbally fight the point of interest, and not that of one persons opinion verses another person(s) opinion - on any given subject / topic.

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LoVe,
Rhapsody -

Please share YOUR definition of the word DEBATE.... so that we may all learn from each other.

I should probably stay out of this one.....I love a good debate when there are intelligent people debating....lol

The only time it sucks is when it becomes an argument. Seriously people, it is ok to disagree without becoming disagreeable. It is ok to disagree on a subject and still be friends at the end of the day...

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alphamicky said:
I should probably stay out of this one.....I love to debate...lol

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No No - please do tell me your definition of the word DEBATE.... that is all that I am asking for any ways - no debate needed on the meaning (your defintion) of the word debate - lol.

Thanks...
LoVe,
Rhapsody -

sorry...read my edit...but as to your inquisition....

Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and position representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, since it includes persuasion which appeals to the emotional responses of an audience, and rules enabling people to discuss and decide on differences, within a framework defining how they will interact.

Informal debate is a common occurrence, but the quality and depth of a debate improves with knowledge and skill of its participants as debaters(Yes if you do participate in 'any' debate you will learn something).

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alphamicky said:
sorry...read my edit

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YES, I saw the edit and I understand what you are saying, but over all I am interested in....
What your (everyones) "definition" of the word "DEABTE" is.

....... are YOU willing to share?



Thanks...
LoVe,
Rhapsody -

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EDIT

LOL - ok I see that YOU finally wrote a DEFINITION - THX!!!

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Rhapsody said:
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alphamicky said:
sorry...read my edit

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YES, I saw the edit and I understand what you are saying, but over all I am interested in....
What your (everyones) "definition" of the word "DEABTE" is.

....... are YOU willing to share?



Thanks...
LoVe,
Rhapsody -

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EDIT

LOL - ok I see that YOU finally wrote a DEFINITION - THX!!!



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'Everyone' (as you put it) can't be involved in a debate. It is impossible. Most view debates as arguments unless you are one involved in the 'debate'. I guess I don't understand your question. Are you interested in starting a debate, or are you just interested in a particular debate? Either way, I am intrigued....lol

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alphamicky said:
"Everyone'" (as you put it) can't be involved in a debate. It is impossible. Most view debates as arguments unless you are one involved in the 'debate'. I guess I don't understand your question. Are you interested in starting a debate, or are you just interested in a particular debate? Either way, I am intrigued....lol

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As per my first POST......

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OK - I would like to start this thread as a means of getting the opinion of every ones "personal interpretation" of the word DEBATE (what ever constitutes a debate to you).... Please no arguing with posts made by another person, for it is their belief / meaning, not yours or mine. [/b]

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LoVe,
Rhapsody -

Main Entry: 1de·bate
Function: noun
Pronunciation: di-'bAt, de-
: a contention by words or arguments: as a : the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure b : a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

Main Entry: con·ten·tion
Function: noun
Pronunciation: k&n-'ten(t)-sh&n
Etymology: Middle English contencioun, from Middle French, from Latin contention-, contentio, from contendere
1 : an act or instance of contending
2 : a point advanced or maintained in a debate or argument
3 : RIVALRY , COMPETITION
synonym see DISCORD

Main Entry: 1dis·cord
Function: noun
Pronunciation: 'dis-"ko rd
1 a : lack of agreement or harmony (as between persons, things, or ideas) b : active quarreling or conflict resulting from discord among persons or factions : STRIFE
2 a (1) : a combination of musical sounds that strikes the ear harshly (2) : DISSONANCE b : a harsh or unpleasant sound
synonyms DISCORD , STRIFE , CONFLICT , CONTENTION , DISSENSION , VARIANCE mean a state or condition marked by a lack of agreement or harmony. DISCORD implies an intrinsic or essential lack of harmony producing quarreling, factiousness, or antagonism <a political party long racked by discord>. STRIFE emphasizes a struggle for superiority rather than the incongruity or incompatibility of the persons or things involved <during his brief reign the empire was never free of civil strife>. CONFLICT usually stresses the action of forces in opposition but in static applications implies an irreconcilability as of duties or desires <the conflict of freedom and responsibility>. CONTENTION applies to strife or competition that shows itself in quarreling, disputing, or controversy <several points of contention about the new zoning law>. DISSENSION implies strife or discord and stresses a division into factions <religious dissension threatened to split the colony>. VARIANCE implies a clash between persons or things owing to a difference in nature, opinion, or interest <cultural variances that work against a national identity>.

Parlimentary Procedure Does not apply here.

Lol....you can't debate that

No, you can't, can you?

I think debate has an aspect of open-ness about it. That is, people should be allowed to express themselves even if its not agreement. If all people want is a one way convo its definately not a debate in my opinion.

Thanks for the Dictionary's Definition, but if YOU do not mind me asking..... can you please share with me YOUR PERSONAL definition of the word DEBATE, as stated in my first post.

My First Post....

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Rhapsody said:
OK - I would like to start this thread as a means of getting the opinion of every ones "personal interpretation" of the word DEBATE (what ever constitutes a debate to you).... Please no arguing with posts made by another person, for it is their belief / meaning, not yours or mine.

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Thanks...
LoVe,
Rhapsody -

My only comment right now is that if this is referring to the Spirituality Forum, then the only definiton of "debate" is DocJohn's.

My experience of debate has never ended in anything other than heartache.

My "personal interpretation" of the word debate is 'argument, disagreement and non-resolution'.

Therefore, I do not participate in debates. But seeing as this thread is NOT a debate - I felt ok in expressing my opinion.

I took a speach class in college and part of it was holding debates. We were taught that debates were "organized arguements" where two or more people take opposing sides. each side states their claim (arguement for or against something) and then they back that claim up with proof that will uphold their claim. once both sides have stated their claim and given their proof they leave it up to their audiance to decide for themselves which side or which issues on both sides that they agree with.

An example of a debate is -

Presidents have televized debates where both the democrats and republican parties state their position on specific issues such as welfare reform, or abortion and then each side gives their proof that will uphold their statements. once both the democratic party and the republican party have stated their claim on an issue and backed it up with their proof they leave it up to the USA citizens to decide for their self where they stand on those issues and vote for which ever candidate they feel will uphold what they the citizens believe in while the candidate is in the presidency position of office.

I don't mind in the least! MY definition of debate is that of Daniel Webster's. That is the TRUE definition and I always go by what HE says.

If a word pops unto my mind that I would like to use in something I am writing and I'm not quite sure if it's right, I always check the dictionary first.

In my personal experience, "debate" always ends in an argument one way or the other. Only among very self-controlled, highly educated people can they all come to a single conclusion after the debate is over. That is because they are ALL open to listening to other's views. Their mind is open to accepting other perspectives and are willing to tweak theirs from just a tiny bit to a whole lot.

Those that simply cannot agree and for reasons of their own cannot or will not change their perspective, simply stay quiet and don't try to impose by force, their own perspective. They agree to disagree.

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_Sky said:
My only comment right now is that if this is referring to the Spirituality Forum, then the only definiton of "debate" is DocJohn's.

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Yes I agree that DocJohn has the first and final say here on his site..... but in all reality we all have a mind and can share what we each think on the word DEABTE..... to help in the understanding of people.

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NO - this thread is not about the Spiritual Forum, it is about my one full year experience of being a member here on PC..... but the Spiritual Thread did get me thinking, therefore, I decided to create a thread on the DEFINITION of the word DEBATE.... to help us all to better understand and accept the interpretation of what any given member may think on the word DEBATE, about debates.

.... I am looking for personal definitions by each member, for I believe that attitudes come from a personal thought life turned inside out, and IMO I find that most people see things based on their inner belief system, hence why we probably have some that see different POV as debating the subject at hand - while others simply see it as talking & sharing, as a form of gaining knowledge and learning from others.

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Rhapsody said:
OK - I would like to start this thread as a means of getting the opinion of every ones "personal interpretation" of the word DEBATE (what ever constitutes a debate to you)....

AND - my reason for wanting (starting) this THREAD is that I feel that many of us here at PC are seeing some comments placed in the threads as debating the topic at hand when they are not, nor were intended to be so..... and all because a post / comment was made that counteracted that of what another poster felt toward the subject at hand.

In My Opinion - we cannot assume that any post is a debate (or trying to start a debate) just because the poster believes or see matters in a different light - but rather I feel we should see the majority of the post submitted as a form of personal expression of what each individual thinks or feels on the topic being disused....

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LoVe,
Rhapsody -

This is for you, Rhapsody:



And for all your attempts:


AS

<font color="purple"> Thank YOU....... too.... </font>

Got any aspirins?
- for my head does indeed hurt with all the head bagging I have been doing -

Gotta LoVe Us All -
LoVe,
Rhapsody -

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Rhapsody said:
Please no arguing with posts made by another person, for it is their belief / meaning, not yours or mine.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> In other words, don't debate the meaning of debate?

There is a big difference between 'arguing' and 'debate'.
I believe that it is ok to disagree with someone up to the point that you become disagreeable. What I mean by this is that I think that Rhapsody and I could probably debate all day and we would still be friends at the end of the day(at least we wouldn't be mad at each other). It's just a debate.

People actually learn from debating. At least it makes you think about the topic that is being debated. It makes you try to analyze the topic. Whether you like it or not, if you get involved in a debate you will learn something. Even if it is from the person you are debating against.

It's when the debate becomes personal and argumentative, that the debate becomes an argument. That is where we need to draw the line. Just my thoughts.

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Perna said:
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Rhapsody said:
Please no arguing with posts made by another person, for it is their belief / meaning, not yours or mine.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> In other words, don't debate the meaning of debate?

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LoVe,
Rhapsody - ((( hugs )))

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Is that a "yes"??

I don't understand, rhapsody.

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Perna said:
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Rhapsody said:
Please no arguing with posts made by another person, for it is their belief / meaning, not yours or mine.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> In other words, don't debate the meaning of debate?

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I was simply THANKING PERNA for being able to see what I was saying..... when she reminded us of what I had stated in my original post when I asked for the interpretation of the word DEBATE from all the members.

My comment did not have any thing to do with the post before mine from alphamicky - for I was typing my reply to Perna while alphamicky was posting her..... mine was to PERNA and PERNA only, no one else and for no other reason than stated above.

LoVe,
Rhapsody - ((( hugs )))