[joshuas-mommy]

My grandma is elderly and cannot take care of herself by herself. My mom informed me that she doesn't have any attachment to her mother and only thinks of her as someone who raised her. My grandma cannot drink too much water because her kidneys are functioning like that of a 98 year old. My mom kept offering my grandma water and said that it was good for her. My mom started crying because she hardly has any money and then said that my aunts shouldn't be trying to keep her alive. Is that Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy?

[Skeezyks]

Hello joshuas-mommy: My understanding of Munchausen is that it involves one person (frequently a parent) who intentionally harms another person, usually a child, so that the parent can take the child to the hospital & thereby gain attention & sympathy for themselves from hospital personnel. If this is accurate (I don't know how accurate it is) then what you're observing does not seem to me to fit. But, of course, I'm certainly no expert.

[marmaduke]

Don't know if it's munchausens exactly, sounds like your mother wants her gone so she gets some money?

My sister killed my mother. Yup really.
My NPD Sister put mother in a home told her it would be 'a little holiday'.
She did not want to go. I and my eldest sis told mother she did not have to go.

Mother ignored us like she always has and decided that Nsis (her darling golden child) was right, told us not to bad mouth the golden one.

The first night in the home mother woke up with shingles on her face due to stress.

A doctor examined mother told us she 'had a strong heart and could well live for years'
Now bazzarly Nsis annocunces 'Mother is on her death bed'
WTF?
Nsis and her mini me daughters start a 'vigil' they will not leave mothers side, they take over feeding etc.

What angels!!

But no. Really they deny her food and water. I try to tell staff but by now Nsis has conviced the care home manager that her sisters are baddies and she is distinctly 'off' with us.

Her smear campaign worked.

Within 5 days of this 'vigil' mother is dead. Thin dehydrated.

The care home was costing £700 per week.

No way could N sis see her inheritance drain away like that. She decided mother had to go, and quick.

So. Narcissistic mothers narcissistic and adored golden child that she sooo worshiped cold bloodedly killed her.

Poetic justice l suppose.

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[Permacultural]

I thought it was mainly the "proxy" person benefits in some way from the poor treatment of the other person, and they often do things to the person to ensure that the "proxy" gets attention or something for secondary gain.

No it isn't MSP. MSP is about one person hurting a second for the purpose of getting positive public attention.