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Old May 20, 2016, 02:21 PM
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I kid you not. This morning we had a meeting, it was wonderful, I passed the Biotonix evaluation, results turned out to be great and I think I'm in love with my orthesist! LOL See, I don't speak that much to women, it's nothing against them, I don't speak much with strangers but this woman, wow. She's not even the best looking, is a little-tiny bit overweight, nothing major and probably 35-40 (I'm 26!) but she's very smart, she's professional, she's caring, I like her voice, the way she giggle all the time, she has amazing curves I will tell you that and I'm really flirting with the idea to ask her out. This was the first time we met and she really did me a strong impression. We talked A LOT, she was all smily, seemed to find me quite funny and I REALLY wanted to kiss her but I'm not an animal so I controlled my pulsions.

She's the vice-president of the place I go, biggest orthetist cabinet of my state, very important woman, I like sophisticated, powerful women, I like the challenge that is conquering them and I'd ask her out in a heartbeat but I wonder if it's a good idea or not.

I'm 26, I won't finish my studies in finance before I'm 32, she's 35-40, she's a vice-president and I'm a student. To me, she's at one place in her life and I'm at another. Sure, we could hook up and I bet the sex would be YUUUGE but what about after? Let's say we follow my wildest fantasies, there's a connection, it's the big love and she wants to form a family. ...I'm just a student and I'm SOOO not ready to be father or let's talk finance since I'm studying in finance. I always thought a men should be supporting his woman, since I'll be studying for the next 5-6 years, this would rather be her supporting me lol and I'm not comfortable with that. Maybe I ask myself too many questions but I don't know, I'm attending individual therapy atm and I'm confused. I know there is sexual attraction, there's love and there's also infatuation, that you can't really love someone you don't know that much so I'm attracted to her rather than in love but I wonder if it's okay to ask her out, despite her age and her position. It's almost as if meeting with a celebrity and asking her out, I guess I need to be reassured it's okay to do it. lol

Is it?

If you wanted my honest unfiltered opinion, I think I want her real bad. Who cares she's older than me, she attracts me but I'm ashamed to admit it because I feel like a complete pervert. I know this is bad because there's nothing bad in being attracted in a woman but I'm not comfortable with my sexuality, it seems.
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Old May 20, 2016, 04:26 PM
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I'm sorry, but that would put her in a very dangerous position if you pursued her, and it can cost her her job.
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Old May 20, 2016, 05:56 PM
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I'm sorry, but that would put her in a very dangerous position if you pursued her, and it can cost her her job.
Even if I never meet her again as a patient? This is not the same as with therapists. Biotonix evaluation are one meeting then of course, we'll talk on the phone to make sure everything is going all right but I probably won't meet her again at the orthopedist place. Outside of the clinic is private life, I don't think it can cost her her job, unless you meant sending her an email about going out with me? It's true I only have her professional address but I can't ask her on the phone, calls are recorded. lol

I could also let go of her, I would survive, I always survived but I'd like to have her, I'd really like to get more intimate with her.

I think doing NoFap (no masturbation for x number of time) is affecting me. I was talking with some girl, she gave me some documents I needed, she was really professional and I said ''Thank you for being so professional and the document (obviously), what great service! By the way, you have a very beautiful voice, perfect voice for your job.'' and you would NEVER see me being so outgoing and extraverted, off NoFap.
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Old May 20, 2016, 08:10 PM
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Just because you ask doesn't mean she'd accept you or even have the same feelings about being attracted to you just because you are attracted to her.

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Old May 20, 2016, 09:28 PM
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Most professions have a code of ethics that apply both inside and outside the office. Even if she does want a relationship with you and you stop seeing her in a professional setting, it could seem unethical that she is dating a past client. It seems unfair, I know, but it's how the professional world works.
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Old May 20, 2016, 09:40 PM
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Even if I never meet her again as a patient? This is not the same as with therapists. Biotonix evaluation are one meeting then of course, we'll talk on the phone to make sure everything is going all right but I probably won't meet her again at the orthopedist place. Outside of the clinic is private life, I don't think it can cost her her job, unless you meant sending her an email about going out with me? It's true I only have her professional address but I can't ask her on the phone, calls are recorded. lol

I could also let go of her, I would survive, I always survived but I'd like to have her, I'd really like to get more intimate with her.

I think doing NoFap (no masturbation for x number of time) is affecting me. I was talking with some girl, she gave me some documents I needed, she was really professional and I said ''Thank you for being so professional and the document (obviously), what great service! By the way, you have a very beautiful voice, perfect voice for your job.'' and you would NEVER see me being so outgoing and extraverted, off NoFap.
First of all, I am quite unsure of what you mean by "have her". Is this some sort of subtle hint that you believe all women are to be "had"? If that is the case, and please forgive me if it isn't, you need to step back and rethink what it means to be in a relationship. It doesn't mean that you get to have sex. No. It means more than that. Women aren't just for having sex you know. We aren't just there to stand around looking pretty and please men at their every beck and call.

If you want casual sex, that's one thing, but if you feel we are just to be "had" then, my friend, you have some serious therapy work to do.
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Old May 21, 2016, 12:00 AM
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Just because you ask doesn't mean she'd accept you or even have the same feelings about being attracted to you just because you are attracted to her.

Some things are best left in our fantasy.
It's true. I prefer to be optimistic about things, though. I have this ''think big'' mentality and I prefer to get rejected than having regrets.

In some cases, yes, in this one, I'm still flirting with the idea. lol
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Old May 21, 2016, 12:15 AM
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First of all, I am quite unsure of what you mean by "have her". Is this some sort of subtle hint that you believe all women are to be "had"? If that is the case, and please forgive me if it isn't, you need to step back and rethink what it means to be in a relationship. It doesn't mean that you get to have sex. No. It means more than that. Women aren't just for having sex you know. We aren't just there to stand around looking pretty and please men at their every beck and call.

If you want casual sex, that's one thing, but if you feel we are just to be "had" then, my friend, you have some serious therapy work to do.
It's an expression. Don't take it so literally, it means that I'd like to have her as my girlfriend. Not at all, I will reassure you, it is not the case. What I was hinting in my message is that, I'd like to have a full relationship with her but since we are both in different places in our lives, this might just not be possible. We could just have sex, casual sex, I'd like that, I'd love that but I want more. Prostitutes are but I'm not into bit****. lol No, I prefer quality women, smart, beautiful, sweet, with education and ambition. I don't want a slave, I want a partner so together we can help each other accomplish our dreams and aspirations. In my case, one goal that is very dear to me, is to become a millionaire so I can give back to the human race.

Don't worry, I'm doing therapy but not about that, not about that.
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Old May 21, 2016, 03:28 AM
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We could just have sex, casual sex, I'd like that, I'd love that
You assume that ALL women are open to casual sex?....you have a lot to learn also. Approach women that way & you are sure to get turned down by the QUALITY ones you claim you are looking for
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Most quality women aren't going to be interested in casual sex. Some may, but most will be looking for meaningful companionship first and formost.

I think you need to stop thinking with your sexual desires and start thinking with your mind. Only then will you be ready for a relationship.
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Old May 21, 2016, 06:35 AM
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Next time you are with her you can say something like "Forgive me if this is too personal, but if you are single, I'd love to take you out sometime. I understand if it's inappropriate."

If she says yes, you have a date.

If she says no, you have to act like you are cool just being a patient.

That's all there is to it.
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Old May 21, 2016, 09:22 AM
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You assume that ALL women are open to casual sex?....you have a lot to learn also. Approach women that way & you are sure to get turned down by the QUALITY ones you claim you are looking for
I assume not, I hope not! I don't want to have sex with all women, believe me, not ALL women. loll It's great, I love learning! I would never be that clueless, okay? I know what I'm doing.
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Old May 21, 2016, 09:30 AM
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Most quality women aren't going to be interested in casual sex. Some may, but most will be looking for meaningful companionship first and formost.

I think you need to stop thinking with your sexual desires and start thinking with your mind. Only then will you be ready for a relationship.
I understand that, it's precisely what I've been thinking all along.

I think you need to let me say this, my mind is always the one doing the thinking, otherwise I would have asked her out already and NoFap is the proof. Going 4 days and I have ZERO desire to masturbate. If I was really driven by my sexual desires, I wouldn't have lasted 2 days.

I'm a normal man, when I see a beautiful woman and she attracts me, of course there will be sexual attraction, it's normal and natural but my mind is doing the thinking.
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Old May 21, 2016, 09:33 AM
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Next time you are with her you can say something like "Forgive me if this is too personal, but if you are single, I'd love to take you out sometime. I understand if it's inappropriate."

If she says yes, you have a date.

If she says no, you have to act like you are cool just being a patient.

That's all there is to it.
I like the way you think Tisha, you tell it like it is.

I completely agree with you.

Thanks for the great answer!
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Old May 21, 2016, 09:34 AM
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Yeah. There seems to be some freaking out over nothing going on in the thread.
Women do the same thing. We see someone attractive and we fantasize. This doesn't mean we objectify the person.
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Old May 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
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I never looked at someone attractive and fantasized having casual sex with him. Mind you I am not a prude whatsoever and I've been around the corner. I might wonder if the person is single or if he would be available for dating or is he a nice or fun person but fantasizing about having sex with random men not so much .

Honestly there is nothing wrong with fantasy but you really think you just gonna go have sex with this professional woman and help her to achieve her dreams and inspirations? Why would you even assume she would go for it? Or that she needs help in achieving anything?

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Old May 21, 2016, 01:20 PM
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You've never looked at a celebrity and had some thoughts, Divine? :P
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I don't know exactly what attracts me, but I am aware that when I meet all men, there's a split second that runs across my mind of doable or not, and maybe a visual of having sex with them. I won't let on at all or act on it, but I do think that. I am also attracted to some women, too, but I'm not bi. (Although I wouldn't swear to that 100%, haven't acted on it, though)
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Also, you never know what is going on in this woman's life. She might just be open to the idea of a young man. My mom's friend married a man 24 years younger than her and they lived happily ever after.
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Old May 21, 2016, 01:33 PM
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You've never looked at a celebrity and had some thoughts, Divine? :P


No. I am not the type to have celebrity crushes. And I am very passionate person ( am very much in love right now), but I just don't lust after men I don't know.
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I think this thread has been swayed way too far into the debate of casual sex, which is nothing like the OP/OT intentions.

I think in this case the OP should move on from this. Like another poster said, it may be too dicey for a patient/doctor relationship, but then again, if you see no wrong in it, casually ask her out and see what she says.
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Old May 21, 2016, 02:17 PM
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I wasn't talking about casual sex, exactly. Just fantasizing. But I believe you're right that the topic has drifted too far of base. I wish the OP good luck with this situation if he's serious about it.

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Old May 21, 2016, 08:10 PM
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I wasn't talking about casual sex, exactly. Just fantasizing. But I believe you're right that the topic has drifted too far of base. I wish the OP good luck with this situation if he's serious about it.

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Thanks Tsukiko! I'm serious about it but I agree that this thread drifted way too much into casual sex territory and it isn't even my primary goal. As I said many times, I'd love that but I want more. Whatever I decide to do, I'll see how it goes.

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Old May 21, 2016, 08:16 PM
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I never looked at someone attractive and fantasized having casual sex with him. Mind you I am not a prude whatsoever and I've been around the corner. I might wonder if the person is single or if he would be available for dating or is he a nice or fun person but fantasizing about having sex with random men not so much .

Honestly there is nothing wrong with fantasy but you really think you just gonna go have sex with this professional woman and help her to achieve her dreams and inspirations? Why would you even assume she would go for it? Or that she needs help in achieving anything?

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To each his own. A lot of people like Miley Cyrus but I can't stand listening to her.

I think you're overthinking the whole thing Divine1966, I can't predict the future and I can't read minds. It's not a question of helping people, I help people all the time but it doesn't go further. With her, I'd love to go further, because I have feelings for her. Simple as that.
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