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Old Aug 18, 2016, 11:31 AM
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Im sorry maybe i said it incorrectly...
Shes the first girlfriend thats worked in a sex industry. What i am trying to say is that i think of her as two separate entities. One entity is her as a person of her past, the bad and indecent person. And the second entity, the goo woman she is today.
So what i am trying to say is... She is one person but In my head, shes two separate entities... But the good her reminds me of the bad her. The better she becomes, the more i see the old her.

Its like having a girlfriend that reminds you of an ex girlfriend. Maybe its the sound of her voice, her physical appearance, maybe they have the same name.... But its a reminder each time...

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Also the assumption that you call one good and the other bad is another issue. Umm who are you to judge one that you were not with at the time and never knew? Sex industry people may not have a job that you find respectable but that's subjective isn't it?
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Old Aug 18, 2016, 11:40 AM
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Also the assumption that you call one good and the other bad is another issue. Umm who are you to judge one that you were not with at the time and never knew? Sex industry people may not have a job that you find respectable but that's subjective isn't it?
That is the whole point of this thread, I think.
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Old Aug 18, 2016, 11:52 AM
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I don't see any issue with someone having subjective opinion of someone else's job choice. It's personal preference not to date former sex industry workers. I think the issue is wanting to date her yet judging at the same time. If it's unacceptable to you then dont date her

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Old Aug 18, 2016, 12:26 PM
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I don't see any issue with someone having subjective opinion of someone else's job choice. It's personal preference not to date former sex industry workers. I think the issue is wanting to date her yet judging at the same time. If it's unacceptable to you then dont date her

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Oh I agree with you on what the issue is. I suppose my statement was kind off on a tangent. But yeah it's subjective and I have my own opinions, and I would never date or be with anyone that I had an issue of what their job was or is if it were that I felt this strongly about it.
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Old Aug 18, 2016, 03:57 PM
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So you dislike stripping and sleeping around. Fortunately for you, your girlfriend no longer does either of those things. How would you feel, though, if she was still open to doing them? Does your girlfriend view her past actions in as bad a light as you do? Would you ever shame her for doing them, or would you disregard her past and try to help her stay in work and relationships that are steady and unrelated to sex? By that I don't mean would you force her to do only jobs and things that you are ok with, I mean that you'll tell her about openings and/or support her in her choices.

A relationship is a two way street. She can't be the only one to change, and if she doesn't frown upon sex work or casual sex, but it's a huge deal to you then maybe you shouldn't be together. Consider how often you will think about what she has done. Consider how disgusted it apparently makes you feel. Make sure you are not treating her with contempt in present day, or you should leave her.
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Old Aug 18, 2016, 04:49 PM
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What I don't understand is this:


Why was her stripping not a big deal when your relationship was casual, yet now its the end of the world and causing you turmoil when you want to marry her?


I'll tell you what it looks like...


It's fun and acceptable to bang ex strippers but marrying them is a huge no no.


Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Aug 18, 2016, 10:02 PM
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She was a horrible person,
Without even knowing her, I disagree. Being a stripper and having lots of sexual partners doesn't make a person 'horrible' any more than being judgmental makes someone 'horrible'.

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Help me, i am so very desperate.
Perhaps choosing to see her as a sick person getting well rather than a bad person who got good.

There are mental health consequences to being molested, neglected, abused, etc. How those consequences manifest themselves vary from person to person but such things affect everyone who has experienced them. Likewise, people exposed to the flu have physical health consequences. How those consequences manifest themselves vary from person to person but the flu affects everyone who has been exposed. Some simply have an increase in antibodies as the person fights off infection and no outward signs of the flu are manifested. Some people miss a few days of work, others are hospitalized and still others die.

Would you forgive someone for becoming hospitalized with the flu?
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Old Aug 18, 2016, 11:45 PM
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I know one stripper pretty personally and there isn't nothing horrible about her.


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Old Aug 19, 2016, 12:21 AM
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Was that a typo or are you saying there isn't a thing not horrible about her?
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Old Aug 19, 2016, 07:41 AM
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Yes I meant there is nothing horrible about her. Or there isn't anything horrible etc Didn't mean to use double negative

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Old Aug 19, 2016, 08:38 AM
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If you don't think you can get over/come to terms with her past, it would be unfair to be with her; you will resent her. Get some counseling and see if your feelings can change.
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Old Aug 22, 2016, 10:02 PM
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The thing is i know deep down and in my heart that she has changed. Who she is now, is exactly who she has always wanted to be. So I dont doubt her genuineness for a second. I believe she has finally found her path and i believe this new path is the one she will always follow... In fact, many times, she keeps even myself grounded. This is not the issue. The issue is my head, my thoughts, my memory... Im triggered by everything.

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Your last sentence. I think you need therapy to explore and examine what's best.

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Old Aug 23, 2016, 10:31 AM
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Hi peaceseeker16! I can see this from both sides of the story, I am not a professional by any means, but hopefully my input may help shed some light on this difficult situation.

Would it be fair for me to say that your biggest fear is that she is "putting on an act"? You don't know everything that happened in her past life and you are imagining the worst (prostitution). You might have struggles with these persistent thoughts that might affect your sexual attraction toward her, but you need to ask yourself, how much of those thoughts are true? You must find the root of why you feel this way, is it jealousy? Is it fear of potential cheating? Perhaps, it's her possibly leaving you in the future? Trust me, I can relate to being plagued with thoughts the "gross past" of others myself, but personally had to remind myself not to judge.

In your girlfriend's case, she's had to live in a dysfunctional environment, where you may or may not have. However, the way she was raised is a dark contrast to how average people are brought up. The reason why she is the best person ever, is because she is finally loved (by you). She has probably never felt real love before. I could guess that she was on a hunt for real love since her dad left. She "learned" (dysfunction) that men will give her love based on her looks. The sad thing is, she probably learned this at such an early age, that she became very skilled at it, and found a way to do it for money. Stripping. If she didn't love and trust you to her utmost, I'm sure she wouldn't have revealed her dark past. She is likely afraid of losing you, as you are of her. So, if she is the great woman you say she is, I can assure you, that she feels absolutely disgusting and wretched about her past. Maybe even cries about it sometimes.

I wouldn't press the issue with discovering more of her past, but I would suggest individual counselling for yourself before going to couple's counselling, which would be strongly suggested before committing to marriage.

I really hope this helped.
I really liked the advice you gave, I think they should both go to counseling also, And I agree that she must love and trust you to disclose her past to you, I am sure she feels a lot of shame and guilt already about her past, Don't throw throw the love that you have for each other away, Her past is in the past that is why its called the past, Love the woman for who she is now and please get counseling, I think you will make a good couple you just have to forgive her past, We all have a past and we all change, Good luck on your relationship I think you will be alright
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Old Aug 23, 2016, 10:53 AM
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In my life, I've learned that there are many different parts of ourselves that make up the whole person. We live a certain life and engage in many different experiences and we grow from each, we hurt from many, and we are shattered to our core from our realization. And, yet when our shells of pain and shame shake away, our true beauty is exposed.

Based on the way you describe her, including her wild history, I see her as an AMAZING PERSON. Her history makes her beautiful. Being able to turn your life around is a beautiful thing and she deserves GREAT THINGS. She, this person who has graced YOU with her presence, deserves to live a life of harmony. Do not chase her away by constantly fussing over the rocky road behind her. So what if she chose the rocky road. SO WHAT.

She sounds rather intriguing to me! I bet she has some stories to tell. People like her who have overcome great internal adversity have so much wisdom to share and in a supportive environment they can soar, even to greater heights than the ones sitting on their thrones of judgment.

Her path was different from yours. She was a stripper and had a lot of sex partners. What does it really matter? If she hadn't experienced all those things, she might not be who she is RIGHT NOW. And again, it was her journey.

What are you ashamed of? What parts of your past would you like to leave behind? What mistakes, both big and small have you grown from?

Get into therapy and ask yourself why her past is a hurdle for you. It's hers. Respect her. Be in awe of her.

Stop judging her.
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Old Aug 24, 2016, 02:32 PM
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How did you two meet? Just curious.
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Old Aug 24, 2016, 03:21 PM
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After my girlfriend and I got together, she told me she use to be a stripper.
At the time i wasnt taking her that serious, so to be honest it was horrible but i didnt really care. Aside from stripping, i believe she slept with a lot of men. Of course i found this terrible but again, i thought she would be someone just to waist my time with. All her life (until recently) she has been very insecure, seeking and needing valation from men and people for her outer appearance. It is apparent that she never had a sense of selfworth after some of the trauma in her life. Her father left her was she was a kid and since, she lived in a disfunctional home with family. She was molested once before in her life but remembers very little of the incident or has suppressed it (which is why i dont understand why she became hyper sexual instead or not wanting to engage at all). She would jump into a relationship/hook up, then into another. Some relationship normal and others very sickening causing her depression and PTSD. She was a horrible person, the type of person perhaps no man would ever want to marry, everything she did was a matter of choice... However she has drastically changed! She is a completely different person, the type of woman any man would love to marry. I want to marry her but I have a huge issue that is ripping me apart. The better she becomes, I fall more in love with who she is today. Also the better she becomes, the more i see the disgust of the person she use to be and who i use to date. Throughout the day, i have panic attacks thinking of her gross past (the stripping, sexual hypersexualization, sexual relationships, probably even prostitution) Thinking about everything she did and stood for. I have so many questions in my head that will never be answered. I have entered into a depression because I WANT TO MARRY THE GIRL, she is so perfect but her face and presence is a reminder of what i hate more than anything in life. I am afraid i will have these thoughts on my mind for as long as i live. I dont know how to remove these thoughts, images and memories of her out of my head. I am reminded of this on a daily basis. I have severe PTSD and depression. I dont want to live life like this! And i dont want to live life like this with her but i also can not stand the thought of not being with her. Help me, i am so very desperate.

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Hello, I think people can change and become in a totally different person (for better or for worse), I am really happy that she changer her lifestyle and at the same time I understand your point, I am a guy and i think we men are afraid of the sexual story our gfs had, it may lead us to have insecurities.

In my opinion you should think about it, because later on if you cant accept her past and you guys get married it will be worse and both of you will be very unhappy.
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