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Old Apr 22, 2020, 04:39 PM
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Sarahsweets you are right in that some people are just jerks and behave badly. Narcissists are much more calculated and desire control and need to feel superior over others and desire power over others. There is a difference.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 04:41 PM
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^^ THIS ^^

I can really relate to this. It's far beyond someone just being controlling or simply, a jerk.
I agree. There can be a lot of arrogant people out there, and I know quite a few, but yeah there is a key difference between arrogance and someone with full blown narcissism. As I mentioned to someone else, out of all the people I have known and currently know who display arrogance or have anger issues, I can only think of one person, who I no longer associate with, that could very well be narcissistic. I could be wrong but if I heard she had narcissism, I would not be surprised at all.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 05:04 PM
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.. but yeah there is a key difference between arrogance and someone with full blown narcissism.
Although, NDP has been said to be a spectrum disorder. "Full blown" to me is like paralleling it with low functioning Autism. There's no mistake in it to a trained eye. But what about those with HF Autism and Asperger's.. and the NDPers who are on the lower end of the spectrum?

I guess what's most important is how said person is affecting "you". Who are they in your life? Are you willing to sacrifice yourself to accommodate what they're unable to see for themselves?

I posted an article in the NDP forum you might be interested in. It's about how to de-escalate with an NDP. There must be other strategies for non-NDPers who either love their person or is unable to detach for whatever reason.. so they're not continuously being victimized. That's where I'm at right now.

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Old Apr 22, 2020, 05:09 PM
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I assume bad people meant anyone who is naturally rude and even arrogant, but not a full blown narcissist and doesn't meet the criteria either.
I don't think I referred to "bad people" as my take is that there are no "bad people" just "bad behaviors." I can't look into someone's soul and know they are bad or good. All I can do is look at behavior.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 05:16 PM
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I don't think I referred to "bad people" as my take is that there are no "bad people" just "bad behaviors." I can't look into someone's soul and know they are bad or good. All I can do is look at behavior.
Ya, I think it was in your original wording that made your statement confusing for me. "Bad people" is so subjective.. but yes, behaviour is more concrete and telling.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 05:25 PM
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Ya, I think it was in your original wording that made your statement confusing for me. "Bad people" is so subjective.. but yes, behaviour is more concrete and telling.
Nope, I didn't even use the word "bad" in my first response except to say someone was having a "bad day".
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Nope, I didn't even use the word "bad" in my first response except to say someone was having a "bad day".
You're right! My mistake. It was someone else. Sorry 😳
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 05:50 PM
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You're right! My mistake. It was someone else. Sorry Difference between narcissism and someone who simply refuses to admit being wrong
No worries just lots of replies and I wasnt sure who was replying to what. or if it was to me. Lol.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 08:47 AM
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Although, NDP has been said to be a spectrum disorder. "Full blown" to me is like paralleling it with low functioning Autism. There's no mistake in it to a trained eye. But what about those with HF Autism and Asperger's.. and the NDPers who are on the lower end of the spectrum?

I guess what's most important is how said person is affecting "you". Who are they in your life? Are you willing to sacrifice yourself to accommodate what they're unable to see for themselves?

I posted an article in the NDP forum you might be interested in. It's about how to de-escalate with an NDP. There must be other strategies for non-NDPers who either love their person or is unable to detach for whatever reason.. so they're not continuously being victimized. That's where I'm at right now.

Thanks for this post! 🙂
Oh I'll take a look at that, thank you! Yeah I agree it all depends on how you deal with someone with this kind of behavior whether they have NPD, any other disorder, or just simply have anger issues. And you're welcome.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 08:47 AM
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I don't think I referred to "bad people" as my take is that there are no "bad people" just "bad behaviors." I can't look into someone's soul and know they are bad or good. All I can do is look at behavior.
Yeah true, I agree.
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